Looking for Guides

[Mobyfish]

Originally Posted by The pelican

The old "on your own vs. hire a guide" dabate. If you're referring clients for a day on the water kayak fishing, case closed. Hire a good guide - THEDARKHORSE.

For the rest of us it's a personal choice. I kayak fished for 4 years on my own and learned very little, very slowly without much of any help whatsoever (wasn't even aware of BWE and never talked to other kayak anglers because I launched and fished from birdrock area and didnt even know there was a launch in LJ.)

I lucked out a few times and admit it did feel much more rewarding when I would land the very occasional gamefsh on my own. You know what they say - even a broken clock is right twice a day. But I also made some mistakes (panicking when I caught my first BSB and not knowing how to get him quickly safely released, which was a close call but worked out)

Fellow BWE guys helped when I discovered LJ and hooked up but didn't come prepared with a gaff or game clip. The guys at El Pescador accepted a case of beer in exchange for yellowtail fillet help. All that was great and I'm glad it was part of my expirience.

Eventually I decided it's best to learn from the best. I paid to hire Josh and it was an unreal value for me, relative to the price he charges (time saved, number of fish caught, knowledge gained, money saved buying the right gear).

I'm convinced that it's more rewarding to struggle and then finally get what you're after in just about anything you do in life. If you're looking for a rewarding expirience, do it on your own for a while.

If you're looking to learn a ton of priceless fishing info, save time, save money, catch fish consistently, and shut up and follow instructions, Josh is the guy.

Thanks Pelican. And Amen to all that. Calillyak said pretty much the same thing and I agree with you guys. Here's my situation:
1. I do want to improve my own skills and am hoping to get out there with Darkhorse.
2. Long story short, I'm working with a tour operator software platform. Huge number of kayak fishing clients in the system and no guides to refer them to. I need a lot of guides. So if you know any or know guys who want to do some guiding, please let me know.

-Mobyfish

[TJones]

The picture he supplies you with holding a trophy fish will be priceless . Look at all happy faces on fish porn Friday .

[PapaDave]

What is involved with being a guide? License, insurance and such...

I might be interested, not an expert in LJ but Dana Point and O'Side I am very familiar with.

[jorluivil]

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs

[Mobyfish]

Originally Posted by TJones

The picture he supplies you with holding a trophy fish will be priceless . Look at all happy faces on fish porn Friday .

Ha! That's what I hear. Just sent you a PM.

-Mobyfish

[Mobyfish]

Just sent you a PM.
-Mobyfish

[Mobyfish]

Originally Posted by PapaDave

What is involved with being a guide? License, insurance and such...

I might be interested, not an expert in LJ but Dana Point and O'Side I am very familiar with.

Thanks Papa. Please check your PM.
-Mobyfish

[Bert Vega]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs

Nobody wants sh-wag

And dont you have help from more experienced growers

[alanw]

Originally Posted by Mobyfish

2. Long story short, I'm working with a tour operator software platform. Huge number of kayak fishing clients in the system and no guides to refer them to. I need a lot of guides. So if you know any or know guys who want to do some guiding, please let me know.

-Mobyfish

It sounds like it would be a fun part-time gig but I'm pretty sure just getting some guys who want to do some guiding won't fly, especially here in nanny-regulated California.

Like PapaDave touched on, I'd bet you need to use properly licensed guides which means they have a CA business license, proper liability insurance and surety bond, a CA guide license, and whatever other special things like CPR/Rescue training certs that the state may require for a hunting/fishing guide. If they do any guiding on a motorized vessel they would probably also need a commercial Coast Guard license.

You should ask a licensed guide about the requirements.

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Bert Vega

Nobody wants sh-wag

And dont you have help from more experienced growers

Nope

[Smthtnnr]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough.


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

I don't see a reason to downplay Kevin and Josh's business... but feel free to enlighten me

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough.


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

I don't see a reason to downplay Kevin and Josh's business... but feel free to enlighten me

Perhaps you can enlighten me by telling me how exactly I downplayed two people whose names I never mentioned

[driftwood]

[QUOTE=jorluivil;216893]Nope[/QUO


Are you saying you learned everything yourself?

Greg,Tony,Jim, and the rest were useless to you? Really?

[Zed]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough.


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

Meh.
Maybe youre just slow.

[Smthtnnr]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Perhaps you can enlighten me by telling me how exactly I downplayed two people whose names I never mentioned

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

[momo fish]

You should start a guide service and focus on halibut....

Originally Posted by jorluivil

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs

[Deamon]

[QUOTE=driftwood;216901]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Nope[/QUO


Are you saying you learned everything yourself?

Greg,Tony,Jim, and the rest were useless to you? Really?

Gabe-man, you've been useless to me you sum bitch. Start passing me your damn Friday fish reports (I'll even pay money for good detail) or I'll keep on your arse!
Jim

[ful-rac]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Wow....this is getting good!

[driftwood]

This is a very interesting quote by Mr Jorluivil.

I guess he did learned something from Josh after all.



http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?p=81967

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Yawn