BWE's New Toy - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

MKNOTT · 10-14-2007, 04:33 PM

I think the camera is great. I'm sure it will be used by many on a boring day at work, AND DEFINITLY for that last min looks before a PM. You could always launch at Bird Rock Brad

. Seriously though, I highly dought anybody will use the camera for criminal intent. Maybe my X-Wife, I guess I'll have to walk along the fence if I think she is looking. MKNOTT

Handymansd · 10-14-2007, 05:33 PM

Brad, your concern is legit, but I think you just want to keep everyone from finding out that you bring all those

, and WSB, and Halibut, and Threshers, and.... well you get the idea, with you!

lol

Brian Sanner · 10-14-2007, 08:02 PM

Very cool. I am planning on hitting up LJ in the november/December months and it is nice to be able to see the beach and surf conditions beforehand. The view is cool and like to see all those tourists on rented yaks wreck in the surf

.

Louis Clarke II · 10-14-2007, 08:37 PM

It is and will be well appreciated…

Louis & Clarke

wavster · 10-14-2007, 08:58 PM

You can't stop the world from looking. Paparrazzi are everywhere....

Try bass fishing. No cameras there!

OEX · 10-14-2007, 09:36 PM

OEX came up with the idea to install the camera several months ago. After finding out that there was a desire from the local La Jolla community and several agencies to have them installed in the area, but the budget constraints wouldn't allow it at the moment. We thought that as long as they were going to be installed at some point anyway, we might as well foot the bill and install it in a manner that would benefit the kayak fishermen and fisherwomen as well as city services. It allows SD Lifeguards and Emergency First Responders to monitor the boat launch traffic. City Parks and Recreation are able to respond and witness the conditions of the launch after storms and severe high tides.

OEX is excited about the boat launch camera and we're glad to see that so many of you are as well. We think you'll find it to be both beneficial as a kayak fisherman and fun to have access to view the beach at any time.

While the angle of the camera is adequate to monitor conditions of both the ocean and boat launch, you'll notice that the entire launch is not visible, so if anyone feels like Big Brother is watching please just set up and launch closer to the pylons.

OEX

T-Rex · 10-14-2007, 09:45 PM

I'm really stoked to be able to check out the conditions before leaving my house at 3:00 a.m. Most surf cams are pretty worthless at night, but this one is a pleasant surprise...a good amount of detail is visible because of the lights. Big thanks OEX!

lambadmin · 10-15-2007, 12:39 PM

A thing to note - the webcam has an IR, but it's not that great in the pitch darkness. It's OK when the lights on the hotel are on, and I'm hoping it will be somewhat OK with the moonlight. We're yet to see that.

But keep in mind - now that we have this webcam, we can always get more expensive camera and the webserver that can reeeeeally see in the dark... $$$ is the only problem, but if all of us pitch in a little?? I'd be willing

I'm very happy to see the overwhelmingly positive response to the camera.

What it took was:

... a big pile of $$$ provided by OEX. THANK YOU!

... an awesome patronage from La Jolla Shores Hotel. Please remember this and cut down the noise and volume on your stereo when pulling in to launch at 4:00 AM

. A ton of emails back and forth, multiple meetings. THANK YOU!

... 5 quotes from different Video Equipment Installation companies. Another ton of emails back and forth, hours on the phone and meetings explaining what's really important that this camera has. Big thanks to DVSS Video Security folks for delivering what we need. Great folks to deal with, professional and dependable. Big thank you to David Lugan - http://www.dvss.net/

... hours of configuring it all, days/weeks of test driving and fine tunning.

I'd like to thank to all the folks that helped out with the initial feedback, before it was announced on the board.

I'd also like to thank the WCW gang for being the Guinea pigs once we released it.

Muchos gracias.

Brad's concern is a legit but I'd say very very remote.

We initially had the camera pointed more West along those wooden pilings...

Then we decided to move it up and more North, to cover more of the beach and the waterline. Keep in mind that the breaking swell will be moving further and closer to the webcam depending on the tides. We tried to have it pointed so it covers all the tide extremes.

For people that have a problem being on camera when launching and landing - as OEX said, there's a plenty of space closer to wooden pilings that is out of the webcam range. A second or two you'd be on the camera while passing should not be enough time for someone to actually recognize and ID your car, especially in the dark when we're launching most of the time. Be rest assured the camera was not put out there so we can see you - we're interested in swell, waves, wind and the general conditions at the launch. BWE and OEX believe that information is what will be helpful to the kayak fishing community, and that the benefits heavily outweigh the remotely possible bad things.

Personally, I doubt the thieves will be excited that they can now use the webcam to recognize the cars. I can't imagine them being all high tech, getting up at 4:00 AM to sit in front of their computer and "mark" the cars they're going to rob.

If they're up for the dirty business, I would think they'd be much more inclined to actually be there at the ramp and see us launching - something we can't prevent anyways.

madscientist · 10-16-2007, 06:24 AM

Who said anything about thieves? But a non-trivial concern none the less.

It is not always possible to hug the pylons, depending on crowd or tide.

I think the original positioning was better, as people could just head north if they wanted to avoid the camera.

I was initially taken aback as the very first images I was shown clearly showed a fellow WCWer at the launch, with the surf barely visible. Perhaps that made me focus on the "spycam" aspect.

If looking at blurry tourist tail on that camera is your thing, there are much better websites out there that cater to that kink (and all the others)lol.

The dirty little secret is that there is almost never surf at LJ. Seriously, in almost 3 years and over 500 launches at LJ I have never turned back or even doubted if I could get out/back through the surf. Developing the skills and confidence to deal with surf is part of the challenge and part of the unique thrill of kayak fishing for ocean big game. As Andy has pointed out, if it gets too easy it loses some of its allure (I'm paraphrasing).

The technical accomplishment is superb. Well done Adi!

Corey · 10-16-2007, 06:40 AM

Aaron&Julie · 10-16-2007, 11:38 AM

Outstanding work

We love it. Just wish we could get out and use it's benefits.

Thanks.

lambadmin · 10-17-2007, 10:49 PM

MS and WS,

You guys really like each other...

This is the camera parade thread, please.

wavster · 10-18-2007, 04:06 AM

FISHIONADO · 10-18-2007, 07:11 AM

The camera is very cool. thanks!

Slay Rider · 10-19-2007, 02:26 AM

I just noticed this thread. Now at 3:00 is when I would typically be checking the surf conditions. Not much help today but it could get me on the water more in the evenings. Checking it from work and seeing glassy conditions would do the trick - especially if there were kayaks landing with fish on deck. Will there be any way to rewind so as to do a quick scan for incoming fish counts?

You guys must have gone to a huge amount of work and expense to get this feet accomplished -thank you all for the effort.

There is wisdom in Brad’s argument as well and especially for those who are new and entering into their first winter season.

Launch cam - so what’s next live satellite feed capable of monitoring the whole area? Or my personal favorite, schooling fish with tracking devises.
Thanks again - you make us all proud.

SR

fishfinder · 10-19-2007, 12:59 PM

Guess no more bong hits in the car

:t he_finger:

dorado50 · 10-19-2007, 01:43 PM

I went out this morning and found myself hugging the pilings so as to not be on cam. Don't no why but I did feel as though I was being "watched". I for sure did'nt want to be seen "crashing" going out or coming in!! Paranoia in the early stage.Maybe if I bring in a decent fish I'll feel different, we'll see...........

DBITE · 10-23-2007, 07:33 AM

Nice!! I had been using the beach club's web cam but it's focused a bit south of the launch. This is much better.

lamb · 10-24-2007, 12:11 PM

Cool, I didn't have a clue about their webcam. Good to know.

I haven't had much luck with it's video since yesterday morning. It is probably just down temporarily:

http://www.ljbtc.com/default.aspx?p=...&pageid=228655

theyorkieterror · 10-26-2007, 12:28 PM

From way over here it looks like a great place. I had to go to rocky top to catch a view.

10-14-2007, 04:33 PM	#21
MKNOTT Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Persian Gulf Posts: 263	I think the camera is great. I'm sure it will be used by many on a boring day at work, AND DEFINITLY for that last min looks before a PM. You could always launch at Bird Rock Brad . Seriously though, I highly dought anybody will use the camera for criminal intent. Maybe my X-Wife, I guess I'll have to walk along the fence if I think she is looking. MKNOTT __________________ When I grow up I want to be, One of the harvesters of the sea, <O I think before my days are done, I want to be a fisherman.

10-14-2007, 05:33 PM	#22
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	Brad, your concern is legit, but I think you just want to keep everyone from finding out that you bring all those , and WSB, and Halibut, and Threshers, and.... well you get the idea, with you!lol __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

10-16-2007, 06:24 AM	#29
madscientist Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,906	Who said anything about thieves? But a non-trivial concern none the less. It is not always possible to hug the pylons, depending on crowd or tide. I think the original positioning was better, as people could just head north if they wanted to avoid the camera. I was initially taken aback as the very first images I was shown clearly showed a fellow WCWer at the launch, with the surf barely visible. Perhaps that made me focus on the "spycam" aspect. If looking at blurry tourist tail on that camera is your thing, there are much better websites out there that cater to that kink (and all the others)lol. The dirty little secret is that there is almost never surf at LJ. Seriously, in almost 3 years and over 500 launches at LJ I have never turned back or even doubted if I could get out/back through the surf. Developing the skills and confidence to deal with surf is part of the challenge and part of the unique thrill of kayak fishing for ocean big game. As Andy has pointed out, if it gets too easy it loses some of its allure (I'm paraphrasing). The technical accomplishment is superb. Well done Adi! __________________ Last edited by madscientist; 10-16-2007 at 08:18 AM.

10-16-2007, 06:40 AM	#30
Corey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...waaaay out there Posts: 794	__________________

10-16-2007, 11:38 AM	#31
Aaron&Julie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Spring Valley Posts: 1,400	Outstanding work We love it. Just wish we could get out and use it's benefits. Thanks. __________________ "Never say die"

10-14-2007, 08:02 PM	#23
Brian Sanner Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 48	Very cool. I am planning on hitting up LJ in the november/December months and it is nice to be able to see the beach and surf conditions beforehand. The view is cool and like to see all those tourists on rented yaks wreck in the surf .

10-14-2007, 08:37 PM	#24
Louis Clarke II Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Youngsville, NC Posts: 37	It is and will be well appreciated… Louis & Clarke

10-14-2007, 08:58 PM	#25
wavster Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Encinitas Posts: 562	You can't stop the world from looking. Paparrazzi are everywhere.... Try bass fishing. No cameras there!

10-14-2007, 09:36 PM	#26
OEX Administrator Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 209	OEX came up with the idea to install the camera several months ago. After finding out that there was a desire from the local La Jolla community and several agencies to have them installed in the area, but the budget constraints wouldn't allow it at the moment. We thought that as long as they were going to be installed at some point anyway, we might as well foot the bill and install it in a manner that would benefit the kayak fishermen and fisherwomen as well as city services. It allows SD Lifeguards and Emergency First Responders to monitor the boat launch traffic. City Parks and Recreation are able to respond and witness the conditions of the launch after storms and severe high tides. OEX is excited about the boat launch camera and we're glad to see that so many of you are as well. We think you'll find it to be both beneficial as a kayak fisherman and fun to have access to view the beach at any time. While the angle of the camera is adequate to monitor conditions of both the ocean and boat launch, you'll notice that the entire launch is not visible, so if anyone feels like Big Brother is watching please just set up and launch closer to the pylons. OEX

10-14-2007, 09:45 PM	#27
T-Rex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita Posts: 770	I'm really stoked to be able to check out the conditions before leaving my house at 3:00 a.m. Most surf cams are pretty worthless at night, but this one is a pleasant surprise...a good amount of detail is visible because of the lights. Big thanks OEX!

10-15-2007, 12:39 PM	#28
lambadmin Spam Sanitation Dept Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,375	A thing to note - the webcam has an IR, but it's not that great in the pitch darkness. It's OK when the lights on the hotel are on, and I'm hoping it will be somewhat OK with the moonlight. We're yet to see that. But keep in mind - now that we have this webcam, we can always get more expensive camera and the webserver that can reeeeeally see in the dark... $$$ is the only problem, but if all of us pitch in a little?? I'd be willing I'm very happy to see the overwhelmingly positive response to the camera. What it took was: ... a big pile of $$$ provided by OEX. THANK YOU! ... an awesome patronage from La Jolla Shores Hotel. Please remember this and cut down the noise and volume on your stereo when pulling in to launch at 4:00 AM . A ton of emails back and forth, multiple meetings. THANK YOU! ... 5 quotes from different Video Equipment Installation companies. Another ton of emails back and forth, hours on the phone and meetings explaining what's really important that this camera has. Big thanks to DVSS Video Security folks for delivering what we need. Great folks to deal with, professional and dependable. Big thank you to David Lugan - http://www.dvss.net/ ... hours of configuring it all, days/weeks of test driving and fine tunning. I'd like to thank to all the folks that helped out with the initial feedback, before it was announced on the board. I'd also like to thank the WCW gang for being the Guinea pigs once we released it. Muchos gracias. Brad's concern is a legit but I'd say very very remote. We initially had the camera pointed more West along those wooden pilings... Then we decided to move it up and more North, to cover more of the beach and the waterline. Keep in mind that the breaking swell will be moving further and closer to the webcam depending on the tides. We tried to have it pointed so it covers all the tide extremes. For people that have a problem being on camera when launching and landing - as OEX said, there's a plenty of space closer to wooden pilings that is out of the webcam range. A second or two you'd be on the camera while passing should not be enough time for someone to actually recognize and ID your car, especially in the dark when we're launching most of the time. Be rest assured the camera was not put out there so we can see you - we're interested in swell, waves, wind and the general conditions at the launch. BWE and OEX believe that information is what will be helpful to the kayak fishing community, and that the benefits heavily outweigh the remotely possible bad things. Personally, I doubt the thieves will be excited that they can now use the webcam to recognize the cars. I can't imagine them being all high tech, getting up at 4:00 AM to sit in front of their computer and "mark" the cars they're going to rob. If they're up for the dirty business, I would think they'd be much more inclined to actually be there at the ramp and see us launching - something we can't prevent anyways.

10-17-2007, 10:49 PM	#32
lambadmin Spam Sanitation Dept Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,375	MS and WS, You guys really like each other... This is the camera parade thread, please.

10-18-2007, 04:06 AM	#33
wavster Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Encinitas Posts: 562

10-18-2007, 07:11 AM	#34
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	The camera is very cool. thanks!

10-19-2007, 02:26 AM	#35
Slay Rider Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1 Posts: 108	I just noticed this thread. Now at 3:00 is when I would typically be checking the surf conditions. Not much help today but it could get me on the water more in the evenings. Checking it from work and seeing glassy conditions would do the trick - especially if there were kayaks landing with fish on deck. Will there be any way to rewind so as to do a quick scan for incoming fish counts? You guys must have gone to a huge amount of work and expense to get this feet accomplished -thank you all for the effort. There is wisdom in Brad’s argument as well and especially for those who are new and entering into their first winter season. Launch cam - so what’s next live satellite feed capable of monitoring the whole area? Or my personal favorite, schooling fish with tracking devises. Thanks again - you make us all proud. SR __________________

10-19-2007, 12:59 PM	#36
fishfinder Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1	Webcam Guess no more bong hits in the car :t he_finger:

10-19-2007, 01:43 PM	#37
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	I went out this morning and found myself hugging the pilings so as to not be on cam. Don't no why but I did feel as though I was being "watched". I for sure did'nt want to be seen "crashing" going out or coming in!! Paranoia in the early stage.Maybe if I bring in a decent fish I'll feel different, we'll see...........

10-23-2007, 07:33 AM	#38
DBITE Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 36	Nice!! I had been using the beach club's web cam but it's focused a bit south of the launch. This is much better.

10-24-2007, 12:11 PM	#39
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,563	Cool, I didn't have a clue about their webcam. Good to know. I haven't had much luck with it's video since yesterday morning. It is probably just down temporarily: http://www.ljbtc.com/default.aspx?p=...&pageid=228655 __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

10-26-2007, 12:28 PM	#40
theyorkieterror Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: lower east tennessee Posts: 2	From way over here it looks like a great place. I had to go to rocky top to catch a view.