To do a fishing report or not to do a fishing report? - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wiredantz · 10-05-2011, 06:11 PM

Let the POLL CONTINUE:!!!! 425 views and only 26 people voted???

What i have been taught and what i agree on... ( You can disagree or agree ) Post your comments and put in your answer in the poll. (its raining so pull out the popcorn)

Matt aka Stinkymatt, always gives me a earful for not posting current on the water reports. I use to post current on the water reports, but I use to get alot of hate messages. So now I wait a few weeks on public forums. I Also don't like to post my honey holes but I'll share a hot bite with my fellow kayakers by private messages. Especially the people who helped me learn to fish. Most of the people who share hot bites don't want me to post a bite so I follow their wishes, since they spent countless of hours to find it.

On the other hand if someone wants to share a hot bite, I do not care. I just won't post one myself because I have been taught the underground kayakfishing laws by my teachers. Have I been taught wrong? I don't think so. I use discretion now on what i post.

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE DARKHORSE

Simply, the idea that you "deserve" others hard earned information is ridiculous. Be happy with what you get, learn to read between the lines, and there is no substitute for time on the water.

Oh, by the way I fished today. The water temp was 58.1, with twelve-feet of visibility, tons of greenbacks, and an entire fleet of boats with not one fish caught.

Josh said" learn to read between the lines" so I have, but it also helPs having friends that share current intel by pm.

I do like this site very much, I met most of you through the site. I am also able to get a fishing buddy through this site whenever I go out.

So to finish my story:

I will protect a hotbite because that is what I have been taught. I for one HATE trying to fish in a crowded spot, but I'll do it.

Go out and fish you won't catch anything by reading this and you won't find your own honey holes if you just stay at home. The ocean is big, make some friends and go out.

Have fun

-frank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mo Betta

Im still paying my dues, but I will say that being on a Kayak really cuts down your "fishing range" on the water, its not like I can just fire up 225horses and blaze off to the 390.

I dont blame you guys on bit for trying to keep the bite on the DL. Stealth is one of a Kayaks biggest assets. Nothing will shut it down faster then a lot of PB running around everywhere.

So keep posting the way its been going, a few days after the bite. If I need intel I'll drop by the launch or PM a few friends, better yet Ill just go fish. Time on the water is what its all about, fish are just icing on the cake.

The out of town guys, I feel your pain on the gas and time. Make a few more friends that live here and let them know you maybe coming down. Ive seen nothing but great guys paddling around out there, Im sure the info will flow. Hope to see all of you out there. Frank

bubblehide · 10-05-2011, 06:16 PM

[QUOTE=wiredantz;96882]This is the question:

Since there is an ongoing debate to post ontime fishing report and to wait to post on time fishing report.

I started this poll.

...End Quote

ROTFLMAO

wiredantz · 10-05-2011, 06:33 PM

OMG!!!!

StinkyMatt just GLOBAL Phone TEXT EVERYONE THAT HE IS ELITE

Elite Matt from Navy Seals.
Yes Captain.!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drake

6: Elite Kayak fisherman, who are willing to share information with those willing to put in the time to do research themselves. (Wade, Stinkymatt, Kevin, Scallywag, Greg Andrews, Steveooo and some others)

This is going to last forever. Thanks Drake...

kareem korn · 10-05-2011, 07:08 PM

Toilet paper over the top or the bottom?

It's too windy to fish right now

wiredantz · 10-05-2011, 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=bubblehide;96947]

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiredantz

This is the question:

Since there is an ongoing debate to post ontime fishing report and to wait to post on time fishing report.

I started this poll.

...End Quote

ROTFLMAO

Fixed

StinkyMatt · 10-05-2011, 07:41 PM

Frank you look DRUNK!

Quit drinking my beer when I'm busy pulling in loads of lobster.

bubblehide · 10-05-2011, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wiredantz

Fixed

wew, glad you fixed it!

Whizz Bang · 10-05-2011, 08:22 PM

There ARE real Navy SEALS on this site, a few actually. Weird huh? Awesome pic tho guys.

DanaPT · 10-05-2011, 08:59 PM

All we get in the forum on days like today. . . Non-sense.

Bring back the sun. bring back the fish porn. Whether the report is hot off the press on a WFO bite or two weeks old, I'll read AND enjoy it.

I think I'm #5.

10-05-2011, 09:32 PM

Forget SEALS, I wannt be a TUNA
Tactical Underwater Nautical Assasin

tagyak · 10-06-2011, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jorluivil

I and a few others fish with him on a regular basis and unfortunately also talk to him on a regular basis. I know that the minute he see's this he's going to print it, show it to his wife, kids, neighbors, his students and I'm also sure he'll frame it. The worst part is that he'll probably vacuum seal a copy of it and show it to us every trip and remind us during every phone conversation.

not to mention that he DID text it to us.....LOL

deepdvr · 10-06-2011, 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whizz Bang

There ARE real Navy SEALS on this site, a few actually. Weird huh? Awesome pic tho guys.

From my experience, SEALS are average fisherman at best. The CAG bubba's are the one's who really know how to fish.

Fiskadoro · 10-06-2011, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubblehide

ROTFLMAO

Funny stuff indeed!!!

Basically your damned if you do damned if you don't. I mean you just can't win.

For example a few years back I caught I decent C-bass at La Jolla while fishing alone one afternoon. No wide open squid bite just a lone slug I got dropper looping a mack. Got some tourists to take a pic almost right where I got it. I waited a month to post about it and even photoshopped the location before I put the pic up, and I instantly got shit for posting the wide open bite. Maybe fate set it up so I actually posted the altered pic during a new hot bite, in a new location but more likely it was just someone that wanted to start shit.

Likewise last spring I posted a single pic of a friend and his seabass with something along the lines of "They are out there!" On another yak site. You couldn't tell the location from the pic but more importantly there was no wide open bite to spoil. My buddy just picked up a single fish by waiting them out and being in the right place at the right time. Evidently some other jerkoff saw the pic, had fished that day, and since he did not get one (there was only one caught) he got his panties in a big wad. Next thing I know this jerk has emailed all his buddies and they are all complaining that I had single handedly ruined a bite that never existed. The irony was that none of those guys got any seabass at that location for months, precisely because it never went wide open, and my friend manged several more over then next few months just picking them up one at a time by waiting them out.

Dude you know who you are congrats again!!!

Bottom line there are no standards and as a result people just give shit to who they want to. Some can post fish right in the middle of bite and don't get shit at all. Others post things that could no way effect the bite and people go after them using it as an excuse even though their real agendas have nothing to do with the particular posting, the actual fishing conditions or even the bite, if it exists or not.

At this point personally I'm like: Why bother. There are some in the internet fishing scene that are always going to be a-holes, it's in their nature and unlike normal people they have nothing else to do with their lives other then sit around on a few message boards, give people shit all day, or make up a bunch of childish drama behind the scenes.

I personally don't need the aggravation. Fighting with such retards is retarded.

Now that I no longer post much I have much more time for things I really enjoy like actually fishing, building new things, women and drinking. Works for me!!

Jim

pchen911 · 10-06-2011, 10:50 AM

Most people in category 5: (Those who don't care to post).

Are created by people in category 4. (Those who jump on someone's ass for posting).

Someone who is not all that bothered by having a few more kayaks or boats on the water. Someone who believe the impact is limited and would prefer to welcome new people in the sport because it is a fair and positive trade-off. Someone who appreciate reading and enjoy reporting on timely conditions.

Ends up choosing NOT posting because they don't want to deal with the drama that is created by those in category 4.

The evolution of the kayak fisherman, if going from:
-> Newbie who come to read -> Fisherman who read and share -> Fisherman who no longer share
Should result in a constant state of reporting by the second group, if there is a constant inflow of fresh blood into the sport.

The website would remain in a fairly steady state where there is always a group of people willing to share their reports. The site would not change even though the individual fisherman evolves from one category to the next.

But that is not the case we have here. Here, we find the website itself have evolved from one that used to have timely reports to one that does not.

The possible causes are: either there is a reduction in the number of people getting into this sport so there is a reduction in the numbers progressing into group 2 from group 1. Or, there is an increase in the number of people who jump on others asses for reporting.

I believe it is the latter reason that caused the change in this website.

monkeyfishturds · 10-06-2011, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Day

Funny stuff indeed!!!

Basically your damned if you do damned if you don't. I mean you just can't win.

For example a few years back I caught I decent C-bass at La Jolla while fishing alone one afternoon. No wide open squid bite just a lone slug I got dropper looping a mack. Got some tourists to take a pic almost right where I got it. I waited a month to post about it and even photoshopped the location before I put the pic up, and I instantly got shit for posting the wide open bite. Maybe fate set it up so I actually posted the altered pic during a new hot bite, in a new location but more likely it was just someone that wanted to start shit.

Likewise last spring I posted a single pic of a friend and his seabass with something along the lines of "They are out there!" On another yak site. You couldn't tell the location from the pic but more importantly there was no wide open bite to spoil. My buddy just picked up a single fish by waiting them out and being in the right place at the right time. Evidently some other jerkoff saw the pic, had fished that day, and since he did not get one (there was only one caught) he got his panties in a big wad. Next thing I know this jerk has emailed all his buddies and they are all complaining that I had single handedly ruined a bite that never existed. The irony was that none of those guys got any seabass at that location for months, precisely because it never went wide open, and my friend manged several more over then next few months just picking them up one at a time by waiting them out.

Dude you know who you are congrats again!!!

Bottom line there are no standards and as a result people just give shit to who they want to. Some can post fish right in the middle of bite and don't get shit at all. Others post things that could no way effect the bite and people go after them using it as an excuse even though their real agendas have nothing to do with the particular posting, the actual fishing conditions or even the bite, if it exists or not.

At this point personally I'm like: Why bother. There are some in the internet fishing scene that are always going to be a-holes, it's in their nature and unlike normal people they have nothing else to do with their lives other then sit around on a few message boards, give people shit all day, or make up a bunch of childish drama behind the scenes.

I personally don't need the aggravation. Fighting with such retards is retarded.

Now that I no longer post much I have much more time for things I really enjoy like actually fishing, building new things, women and drinking. Works for me!!

Jim

http://kayaksportfishing.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=10616

http://kayaksportfishing.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=10641

bluesquids · 10-06-2011, 11:20 AM

Internet is to fishing what Gidget was to surfing. IMO.

YakMedic · 10-06-2011, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by monkeyfishturds

http://kayaksportfishing.com/phpBB2/...ic.php?t=10641

How is it you have 3 postings and 2 of which are against Jim Day? Just saying.....
Disclaimer* I have never spoke, fished or met Jim. Just seems funny that's all.

wiredantz · 10-06-2011, 11:35 AM

LOL, I can't believe, You revived that old post.

All I wanted was a fishing buddy that memorial day, and out came Kayak Turf Wars.

By the way 1000 Views and only 39 voted.

Please do not attack anyone for their opinions if they choose to write one.

I just want to get a count of the ACTIVE USERS of B.W.E. but it is also very interesting to see the amount of views in relationship to the people who voted.

monkeyfishturds · 10-06-2011, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YakMedic

How is it you have 3 postings and 2 of which are against Jim Day? Just saying.....
Disclaimer* I have never spoke, fished or met Jim. Just seems funny that's all.

I have never spoke, fished or met Jim Day either. Just read all his threads and comments on Allcoast, Kayaksportfishing and Bigwatersedge. Just saying.....

StinkyMatt · 10-06-2011, 02:41 PM

Nice catch on that Matt. We don't need that Junior High stuff on here.

View Poll Results: To Post a timely report or not?
No, because it shutsdown the bite	20	37.74%
Yes, because it gives hundres of others to try and catch a fish	33	62.26%
Voters: 53. You may not vote on this poll

10-05-2011, 08:59 PM	#29
DanaPT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South OC Posts: 1,606	Rain sucks . . . All we get in the forum on days like today. . . Non-sense. Bring back the sun. bring back the fish porn. Whether the report is hot off the press on a WFO bite or two weeks old, I'll read AND enjoy it. I think I'm #5.

10-06-2011, 11:20 AM	#36
bluesquids Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jamul, CA Posts: 243	Internet is to fishing what Gidget was to surfing. IMO. __________________ Thanks, bluesquids

10-06-2011, 11:35 AM	#38
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	LOL, I can't believe, You revived that old post. All I wanted was a fishing buddy that memorial day, and out came Kayak Turf Wars. By the way 1000 Views and only 39 voted. Please do not attack anyone for their opinions if they choose to write one. I just want to get a count of the ACTIVE USERS of B.W.E. but it is also very interesting to see the amount of views in relationship to the people who voted. __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it Last edited by wiredantz; 10-06-2011 at 01:29 PM.

10-05-2011, 06:16 PM	#22
bubblehide Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 552	[QUOTE=wiredantz;96882]This is the question: Since there is an ongoing debate to post ontime fishing report and to wait to post on time fishing report. I started this poll. ...End Quote ROTFLMAO

10-05-2011, 07:08 PM	#24
kareem korn Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: C-bad Posts: 431	Toilet paper over the top or the bottom? It's too windy to fish right now

10-05-2011, 07:41 PM	#26
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Frank you look DRUNK! Quit drinking my beer when I'm busy pulling in loads of lobster.

10-05-2011, 08:22 PM	#28
Whizz Bang Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 396	There ARE real Navy SEALS on this site, a few actually. Weird huh? Awesome pic tho guys.

10-05-2011, 09:32 PM	#30
Drake Guest Posts: n/a	Forget SEALS, I wannt be a TUNA Tactical Underwater Nautical Assasin

10-06-2011, 10:50 AM	#34
pchen911 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 218	Most people in category 5: (Those who don't care to post). Are created by people in category 4. (Those who jump on someone's ass for posting). Someone who is not all that bothered by having a few more kayaks or boats on the water. Someone who believe the impact is limited and would prefer to welcome new people in the sport because it is a fair and positive trade-off. Someone who appreciate reading and enjoy reporting on timely conditions. Ends up choosing NOT posting because they don't want to deal with the drama that is created by those in category 4. The evolution of the kayak fisherman, if going from: -> Newbie who come to read -> Fisherman who read and share -> Fisherman who no longer share Should result in a constant state of reporting by the second group, if there is a constant inflow of fresh blood into the sport. The website would remain in a fairly steady state where there is always a group of people willing to share their reports. The site would not change even though the individual fisherman evolves from one category to the next. But that is not the case we have here. Here, we find the website itself have evolved from one that used to have timely reports to one that does not. The possible causes are: either there is a reduction in the number of people getting into this sport so there is a reduction in the numbers progressing into group 2 from group 1. Or, there is an increase in the number of people who jump on others asses for reporting. I believe it is the latter reason that caused the change in this website.

10-06-2011, 02:41 PM	#40
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Nice catch on that Matt. We don't need that Junior High stuff on here.