Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge  

Go Back   Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge > Kayak Fishing Forum - Message Board > Kayak Fishing Reports
Home Forum Online Store Information LJ Webcam Gallery Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-06-2011, 03:46 PM   #21
maui jim
Senior Member
 
maui jim's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Cypress, CA
Posts: 789
NICE F"N GOAT....Reds are tasty....
Lings are the Gordon's Fishermans payday...
__________________
maui jim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2011, 08:47 PM   #22
Billy V
Senior Member
 
Billy V's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bay Ho
Posts: 1,382
Nice collection of rock fish.
__________________
Billy V is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2011, 08:49 PM   #23
wiredantz
Currently @ MLO Territory
 
wiredantz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Under the Shadow
Posts: 2,290
Matt we need to go catch some REDs!
__________________


Team: Disbanded
You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it
wiredantz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-06-2011, 09:35 PM   #24
Tman
BRTF...bought & paid...
 
Tman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,247
Killer video, saw some peaks of land though...

Fishin' in my old stomping grounds...just in deeper agua

Very nice with the tutorials, may need to back off that MASTA of the DENIZENS of the DEEP...What's your going rate?

Would love to join you some day, my spot from the launch (only cuz I don't head further S) never produces like that...

Let me know the going rate/beverage type/quantity/food preferred...
__________________
Adios

Tman
Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher
Tman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-07-2011, 08:13 PM   #25
The Kid
Loves Surface Irons
 
The Kid's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: San Diego
Posts: 455
Nice goat Larry, that is some super eats! The thing could almost eat a legal.
The Kid is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-08-2011, 02:02 PM   #26
tunaseeker
TB Metal Art
 
tunaseeker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: San Diego
Posts: 653
Great vids thanks for sharing!
tunaseeker is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2011, 08:32 PM   #27
blackcloud9
Kayaker
 
blackcloud9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla
Posts: 413
Quote:
Originally Posted by hook1fred View Post
Damn good job.... everytime I go out targeting bottom fish I end up with several fish about 4-6 inches long
Thanks.

Some tips that everyone should know. The key is not to spend your time
reeling up and killing little tiny fish that you don't want. Right?

This juvenile 'bycatch' is what gives deep rockfishing a bad name in the
MLPA/enviro world. Less-equipped people may get their limit of keepers,
plus, kill 10 or 20 babies in the process. This is unsustainable and makes
you just want to stop.

How do you combat that? Just think for a minute.

If you used a 7/0 circle hook, a big bait, a high modulus graphite rod and
200 feet of no stretch spectra/braid and only tighten up when you feel a
big headshake bite, you wouldn't catch little ones.

If you fish the 2 oz plastics, and only set the hook when the BIG THUMP
happens, you get keepers. In order to feel what is happening with
your rig, you HAVE to have spectra/braided line and a quality graphite
rod.

Again I do not use J hooks with bait, just big circle hooks, in big baits. I
do not ever jig big Irons on the bottom, that just kills little fish.

I will be fishing this Sunday in South LJ. I will be launching from Big Rock
around 6:30 - 7. Big Rock beach access is near the end of Winamar St in
La Jolla.

The winds will be light and the surf will be flat.
blackcloud9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-13-2011, 09:00 PM   #28
roby
CEO of Team Roby
 
roby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Posts: 905
Quote:
If you used a 7/0 circle hook, a big bait, a high modulus graphite rod and
200 feet of no stretch spectra/braid and only tighten up when you feel a
big headshake bite, you wouldn't catch little ones.

If you fish the 2 oz plastics, and only set the hook when the BIG THUMP
happens, you get keepers. In order to feel what is happening with
your rig, you HAVE to have spectra/braided line and a quality graphite
rod.
Great info...thanks for sharing.

Quote:
I do not ever jig big Irons on the bottom, that just kills little fish.
If you don't mind, can you elaborate on the above statement. When I use jigs for rockfish I typically get bigger sized rockfish...
roby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2011, 12:15 AM   #29
blackcloud9
Kayaker
 
blackcloud9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla
Posts: 413
Quote:
Originally Posted by roby View Post
Great info...thanks for sharing.

If you don't mind, can you elaborate on the above statement. When I use jigs for rockfish I typically get bigger sized rockfish...
Thanks for the comment Roby. Great point.

My question would be: do you get ONLY bigger sized rockfish on the iron?

If so, keep at it!

I'm sure others will agree that the La Jolla area seems to be chock full of
smaller/baby rockfish schools - which I work hard to avoid catching. My
tackle preferences are focused on NOT catching 'whatever bites', but,
attempting to have patience until a larger model finds my offering.

So, while jigs can be very effective down deep, I'm sure everyone has
seen the four inch rockfish that get impaled on treble hooks of the 7-inch
irons. I have seen too many. Sometimes through the eyes, or snagged in
the stomach or gills. This is caused by using the usual indiscriminate
'jigging' action on the iron near the bottom. The same happens with using
J hooks and constant hooksets at every nibble.

If you are fishing someplace like Mexico: Colonet or San Martin on a 1.5
day trip where even the smaller fish are two pound class, then it can be
worthwhile. And sometimes you hit a rock locally where they are all good
sized fish and you're home free to fish whatever.

To summarize, I'm voluntarily limiting myself to eliminate the smaller
bycatch as much as possible. Since I prefer to use smaller, lighter reels
and rods for 'sport' anyway, its not the right tackle to fish a big iron.
Megabaits can be great, but again I'd be catching 'whatever bites' ...
big or small.

Hope that helps.
blackcloud9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2011, 02:00 AM   #30
dwntwnall4u
Kevin C.
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: San Diego/Hawaii
Posts: 146
Thank you very much for you great informative videos. What kind of set-up do you use, if you don't mind?
dwntwnall4u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2011, 07:15 AM   #31
da22y
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 265
Great info !
I am buying size 7 circle hook to avoid baby fish today....

Thanks
da22y is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-16-2011, 07:06 PM   #32
blackcloud9
Kayaker
 
blackcloud9's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla
Posts: 413
@dwntwnall4u
I use basically a dropper loop rig with a 4 oz weight, depending on the
amount of current.

Today, I hit up an old favorite rock for nine La Jolla style cookie cutter
Reds, since I already had a big Treefish in the bag. Three miles offshore in
15 mph of wind. Gotta love the mirage drive out there.

Also got a bunch of macks for bug bait.

I'm working on the video, but its pretty bland and I had to go with medium
sized rod and more weight due to the current and wind conditions and was
fishing over 150 feet deep. Fishfinder and GPS are crucial in this type of
fishing.



__________________
Larry. Hobie Revolution 13.
25 years of kayak fishing La Jolla.
https://larryl.com/photos

Last edited by blackcloud9; 10-16-2011 at 10:15 PM.
blackcloud9 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-17-2011, 10:48 AM   #33
yaksailor
Member
 
yaksailor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 66
Nice!

Not sure about the sheepshead, but the rockfish are definitely not trash to me. The browns and shallow water RF seem to have even clearer, white meat compared to the vermillion, IMHO. More fun and less winding, too.
yaksailor is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
blackcloud9, kayak fishing, lingcod, rockfish


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 10:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 2002 Big Water's Edge. All rights reserved.