where's the science?

[comrad_zeelaagee]

Does anybody have any links or copies of articles with regard to the science in support or against the MLPA MPA proposals?

I haven't found anything that paints a clear picture.

Thank you.
Andy

[Dan]

NCBI PubMed is the google of peer reviewed science. Use key words just like google. If there is no link to the PDF of the paper, you can usually copy the title into google and search for PDFs and it will typically come up.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?db=PubMed

Here is a small review of the work of Dayton and Parnell from SIO.

http://www-csgc.ucsd.edu/RESEARCH/PR...ytonRCZ177.pdf

I would plug the References into NCBI and read those papers.

[comrad_zeelaagee]

really? that's it? no one else- i'm on your side here guys. if i'm going to be an advocate for this issue i want to be well informed... even if we're past the point of debating th science.

i have not found anything comprehensive that includes basline studies or tracking info- let alone the inclusion of effects of watershed based polution.

help me out here please.

[Kirk]

Here are a couple more papers cited in the one Dan posted. It looks like there are a lot of relevant papers in NCBI if you do a search, but many of them cost money to download.

http://repositories.cdlib.org/cgi/vi...ext=postprints

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/pic...9&blobtype=pdf

[JoeBeck]

Water pollution is the number one cause of depletion in the ocean not fishing. Look up articles about the history of the Chesapeake bay and the studies done there it is relevant to all the waters in our country. Industrial pollution.

Here is a good documentary on water pollution available on netflix Frontline: Poisoned Waters

[nunyabizness1]

Sorry for the threadjack but this is connected...



Is that clear enough?

The MLPA process is almost over and it’s not looking good for the fisherman by ANY measure. TO BE CLEAR, if you are a fishermen this IS going to change where you fish and what you catch for the WORSE. This WILL put landings, tackle stores, marinas and charter boats out business. This WILL take jobs from honest, hardworking people who do what they love for a living.

What can you do?

There are two more KEY dates left in this battle. It’s NOT too late. YOU can still make a difference.

We need YOU. YES YOU! Plain and simple we need BODIES to win this battle.

The first event you can attend is your local AWARENESS RALLY. There are currently three of these organized for this Saturday September 5, 2009. PLEASE come out and bring your trailer boat, kayak, etc. with you for a PEACEFULL drive around your local Marinas and Launch Areas. There will be flyers, stickers and banners available to dress your vehicles up for the rally. PLEASE make every effort to attend and GET YOUR BUDDIES involved.

Here are links to the events:

San Diego -
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-5-2009-a.html (San Diego area MLPA "Awareness Event" Sat. Sept 5, 2009)

Meet at South Shores Boat Launch at 9 am. We will leave at 10 am, hit Dana Landing and Shelter Island along the way and return to South Shores for a BBQ/Potluck. Caravan Leaders: Maggie aka Nunyabizness1 and Mike aka Mikeylikesit

Orange County –
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-sept-5th.html (Orange County MLPA "Awareness Event" Sept. 5TH)

Meet at Glenn's Tackle Shop parking lot - 1145 Baker Street, Costa Mesa at 9:00 am and leave by 10 am sharp. Caravan Leaders: Bobby Gowin and Paul Romanowski



Los Angeles –
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...ember-5-a.html (Los Angeles Area MLPA "Awareness Event" September 5)

Meet at the Belmont Shores Pool Parking Lot, Belmont, CA at 9:30 am. We will leave at 10 am sharp and end the caravan event at Marina Del Rey Boat Launch for a BBQ/Potluck event! Caravan Leader: Dean Morrow aka Bank Robber

Please visit this thread to sign up for the potluck by location: http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fi...ml#post1467092 (MLPA Event--TAILGATERS)


These Rallys are all to raise awareness for the LAST PUBLIC MLPA MEETING on September 10, 2009 . IF YOU ONLY DO ONE THING for the MLPA battle, PLEASE BE AT THIS MEETING.

Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles
6101 W. Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

If you would like to learn more about the MLPA Process, please see www.YesFishing.org

If you would like to discuss the MLPA and get up to the minute news, please see Marine Life Protection Act Initiative (MLPA) -

I know a lot of you are BURNT on the MLPA issue (myself included!) but this is the final stretch and we need one last push! The awesome angler turn out at the Santa Ana meetings truly made an impact. It’s time to make ourselves seen and heard AGAIN.

Thanks very much for your support.


Ali Hussainy
Bloodydecks, LLC

[FISHIONADO]

Originally Posted by JoeBeck

Water pollution is the number one cause of depletion in the ocean not fishing. Look up articles about the history of the Chesapeake bay and the studies done there it is relevant to all the waters in our country. Industrial pollution.

Here is a good documentary on water pollution available on netflix Frontline: Poisoned Waters

I don't believe pollution is the primary problem, consumption and waste is. We have depleted the biggest and best breeders because they taste good, I know I sure like to eat bigger fish. We will never bring back the ecosystem the way it was 100 years ago but I believe we can make it at least sustainable by limits, quotas, regulations, etc. Of course we need good science and a strong DFG to manage it, not the "feel good" folks pushing the more extreme MPLA proposals. Peace all!