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[TJones]

Mo and I will show you everything Josh taught us .
Checking pm now . Josh is an incredible guide , and an amazing photographer . Which puts the icing on the cake . Hope to see you soon J.P. .

[Smthtnnr]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough.


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

I don't see a reason to downplay Kevin and Josh's business... but feel free to enlighten me

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough.


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

I don't see a reason to downplay Kevin and Josh's business... but feel free to enlighten me

Perhaps you can enlighten me by telling me how exactly I downplayed two people whose names I never mentioned

[Smthtnnr]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Perhaps you can enlighten me by telling me how exactly I downplayed two people whose names I never mentioned

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

[ful-rac]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Wow....this is getting good!

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Yawn

[Zed]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Lol


There you go. Instant expert. just hire a guide.

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Anti guide sentiment? Now anyone who decides not to use a guide is a bad guy? Grow up. You're blowing this up for one reason and one reason only, you're a client of Josh. I have a mortgage payment, a college bill that will not be paid off for many years and I'm someone who prefers to do things on his own, if you have the money to hire him have fun with it. I understand why you stand by the guides and defend them, because you use their services, ain't nothing wrong with that. Do you know why I drink coca cola products? Because I work for them. Would it make any sense for me to bash them? Stop for a minute and understand that contrary to what you're saying my comments weren't meant to downplay anyone, I can assure you that Josh will not lose clients because of my comments, this whole thread is free publicity for him. Unfortunately, you've taken my comments and twisted them to make me and all of the other anti-guide people look like we're bashing someone, I don't care who uses him/them. I stand by what I said, its more rewarding when you do it yourself and if you think otherwise I could care less. If you want to pay someone to guide you around have fun with it.

You should come fish with use at Irvine Lake this weekend, maybe you care share all of that knowledge.

[Cbad Mike]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

I guess it's easy to get up on a pedestal when someone gives you a ladder.
Now with that said you have to ask yourself... did I actually earn the right to sit up there and judge or did I just buy my seat?
Also, if you can hear me way up there I'd like to ask you a question. What do you think constitutes a "trophy" fish? Me personally, I think a "trophy" is any fish that I catch that I'm proud of regardless of how big it is and who is taking the picture.
Let's get something straight. I think guides are awesome. I wish I could make money while fishing and sharing the sport I love. Kevin, Josh, Jim, Wade etc. are pros. They have a knowledge and ability to fish like most of us want to fish.
Do you really think your on their level?
I'm not sure but I don't believe that you can actually buy membership into that club.
Ya gotta earn that "trophy" ego!

[Chuck D]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.

Man, still waiting to catch that trophy fish. Maybe I should hit up a guide any suggestions?

[Zed]

Originally Posted by Smthtnnr

I love the consistency of my drug dealer. I'm addicted... and occasional isn't good enough.


You could be kayak fishing for 10 years and would probably only know half of what Josh teaches. Sure you can teach yourself... but some things he has taught me would be pretty close to impossible to figure out on your own.

Meh.
Maybe youre just slow.

[momo fish]

You should start a guide service and focus on halibut....

Originally Posted by jorluivil

If you're looking for a quick fix call the drug dealer

If you have patience like me, cultivate your own drugs

[driftwood]

This is a very interesting quote by Mr Jorluivil.

I guess he did learned something from Josh after all.



http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?p=81967

[ful-rac]

Originally Posted by driftwood

This is a very interesting quote by Mr Jorluivil.

I guess he did learned something from Josh after all.



http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?p=81967

Wow this is getting REALLY GOOOD!!!!

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by ful-rac

Wow this is getting REALLY GOOOD!!!!

And to think that I caught all of my fish without a guide at my side.

[YakDout]

Those people saying that you will never know what these guides know. I have a question for you. Do you think the knowledge that they have came from an older generation guide who taught them? Or perhaps they spent time on the water until they learned on their own. I too cannot take anything away from these guides as I can see as to what kind of fish they catch. But to say that there is no way of ever having the fishing know-how that these guides have is a little ignorant.

*end of rant.

Heard the yellowtail were biting pretty locally, who wants to go fishing now?!

😁

[HAVABASS]

Does this same "Anti-Help" thinking apply to say...golf lessons, piano lessons, tennis, coaches, driving, tutoring?

Just wondering.....

[RK]

Bump...

[Iceman]

Feel free to debate, but no name calling................ ya goobers!

[makobob]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Feel free to debate, but no name calling................ BAJA goobers!

Jim, The way things are going this year I think you are going to have to get a larger wheel barrow and wear your greenies too....................

As far as guides go, well some need them and some don't. Make your own choice, me I just rather fish Baja, more fish, more types and usually better size too. I rather catch 100-200 fish a day then maybe 4-5, but thats just me.