Let's talk knots "Roy Rose Knot" - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ful-rac · 09-20-2012, 03:21 PM

For those who are interested this is a knot thats good for doubling the line or for making a dropper loop. Stronger than the regular dropper loop and stronger than the spider hitch. Invented by Roy Rose of the Royal Polaris, it's a strong knot for sure.

First step double the line to however long you want the loop.

Second step make a loop with the doubled line.

Third step make 5 overhand wraps.

Fourth step pull together, making sure that all 4 legs of the knot are even when cinching down. (critical!)

Fifth step Cinch down, should look something like this.

If you want to fish a dropper cut the loop to whatever length you desire, and tie on your hook and sinker.

jorluivil · 09-20-2012, 04:00 PM

grease monkey

StinkyMatt · 09-20-2012, 06:51 PM

Can you just tie my knots at the launch?

I will let you follow me on the water.

Trying it out right now, thanks Tony.

Sdspeed · 09-20-2012, 06:54 PM

How about a entire video course!

MarkT · 09-20-2012, 06:55 PM

A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

Sdspeed · 09-20-2012, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MarkT

A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

so I have inferior knots keeping my rotator cuffs in place

TCS · 09-20-2012, 07:17 PM

I learned it with 6 turns. Wonder what the difference is. A lot of people use 3 way swivels these days.

bus kid · 09-20-2012, 09:29 PM

Wait why tie knots when there are knotless hooks out there!

MVC · 09-21-2012, 05:38 AM

I caught this a couple of weeks ago using a 3 way swivel. I tie the swivel straight to the braid, 30 pound to the hook and 15 pound to the sinker.

RockyRaab · 09-21-2012, 07:50 AM

It's nothing more than a five-turn surgeon's knot (as mentioned) or a doubled uni-knot. But I suppose if somebody wants to name a knot after himself, he can...

ful-rac · 09-21-2012, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkT

A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

Basically yeah, it's a surgeons loop with 5 wraps rather than two. It's definitely stronger than the 2 turn surgeons loop. If you guys think you can use it great! If the knot offends anybody for some reason then don't use it. Just showing an alternative to the standard dropper loop is all. I have a few more really offending knots for everyone later!

By the way nice fish mike!!! Didn't know you got a PA either!

bellcon · 09-21-2012, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ful-rac

Basically yeah, it's a surgeons loop with 5 wraps rather than two. It's definitely stronger than the 2 turn surgeons loop. If you guys think you can use it great! If the knot offends anybody for some reason then don't use it. Just showing an alternative to the standard dropper loop is all. I have a few more really offending knots for everyone later!

By the way nice fish mike!!! Didn't know you got a PA either!

Please quit trying to help Tony, your just creating drama.
Since the "I want timely reports" drama has fizzled out the boys need something new to sink their teeth into

Now show that spectra to leader knot, the one you showed me the other day...
But call it the Fulrac knot to better the chance of a good old fashion drama hook up.

ful-rac · 09-21-2012, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bellcon

Please quit trying to help Tony, your just creating drama.
Since the "I want timely reports" drama has fizzled out the boys need something new to sink their teeth into

Now show that spectra to leader knot, the one you showed me the other day...
But call it the Fulrac knot to better the chance of a good old fashion drama hook up.

That's ok they can sink thier teeth into this one, all in good fun, gotta keep things interesting around here! Drama......Hook uuuuuppp!!!! Spectra to leader knot coming up....

Dirty Curti · 09-21-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bus kid

Wait why tie knots when there are knotless hooks out there!

You had to go there!

RockyRaab · 09-21-2012, 01:35 PM

Wasn't throwing stones. It looks like a perfectly good knot, and if it's a modification of something else that the good Mr Rose developed, he CAN name it after himself.

Now for the Rocky knot, do I combine the Trilene knot with a Uni for hook tying -- or back-back unis with the ends tucked between the strands blood knot style for joining lines? Decisions decisions...

roby · 09-22-2012, 05:41 PM

Thanks for the pics Big Tony....

Most of the knots you've shown me I've put to good use...

09-20-2012, 03:21 PM	#1
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Let's talk knots "Roy Rose Knot" For those who are interested this is a knot thats good for doubling the line or for making a dropper loop. Stronger than the regular dropper loop and stronger than the spider hitch. Invented by Roy Rose of the Royal Polaris, it's a strong knot for sure. First step double the line to however long you want the loop. Second step make a loop with the doubled line. Third step make 5 overhand wraps. Fourth step pull together, making sure that all 4 legs of the knot are even when cinching down. (critical!) Fifth step Cinch down, should look something like this. If you want to fish a dropper cut the loop to whatever length you desire, and tie on your hook and sinker. __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

09-20-2012, 04:00 PM	#2
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	grease monkey __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

09-20-2012, 09:29 PM	#8
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	Wait why tie knots when there are knotless hooks out there! __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

09-20-2012, 06:51 PM	#3
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Can you just tie my knots at the launch? I will let you follow me on the water. Trying it out right now, thanks Tony.

09-20-2012, 06:54 PM	#4
Sdspeed Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 732	How about a entire video course!

09-20-2012, 06:55 PM	#5
MarkT Deep Release Specialist Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 94	A Surgeons knot that you go through 5 times with rather than two?

09-20-2012, 07:17 PM	#7
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	I learned it with 6 turns. Wonder what the difference is. A lot of people use 3 way swivels these days.

09-21-2012, 05:38 AM	#9
MVC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 278	I caught this a couple of weeks ago using a 3 way swivel. I tie the swivel straight to the braid, 30 pound to the hook and 15 pound to the sinker.

09-21-2012, 07:50 AM	#10
RockyRaab Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 138	It's nothing more than a five-turn surgeon's knot (as mentioned) or a doubled uni-knot. But I suppose if somebody wants to name a knot after himself, he can...

09-21-2012, 01:35 PM	#15
RockyRaab Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Utah Posts: 138	Wasn't throwing stones. It looks like a perfectly good knot, and if it's a modification of something else that the good Mr Rose developed, he CAN name it after himself. Now for the Rocky knot, do I combine the Trilene knot with a Uni for hook tying -- or back-back unis with the ends tucked between the strands blood knot style for joining lines? Decisions decisions...

09-22-2012, 05:41 PM	#16
roby CEO of Team Roby Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 905	Thanks for the pics Big Tony.... Most of the knots you've shown me I've put to good use...