Water in the yak - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Anthony179 · 10-22-2010, 07:56 AM

I have a Hobie Sport and everytime I go out, I get water inside. I'm out in the water for about 6-8 hours. I guess it's less than a half gallon. It doesn't make that much difference in weight when I load it up on my truck. I've checked were the drive goes and the bottom of the yak. I can't see anything. Has anybody had this problem with a Hobie? Thanks.

RedSledTeam · 10-22-2010, 08:40 AM

Yes. Check where the control lines enter the rear of the yak. Also, make sure that the inside end of the control line tube is maintained above the waterline. You may also want to check the rubber seal area where the tube enters the outside surface at the aft end of the yak. Last point, if your yak is less than 2 years old it may still be covered under a mfg warranty so check it out and if so, take it to your dealer for further inspection. He's probably done more than one inspection regarding this issue.

AquaticHunter · 10-22-2010, 09:51 AM

I would also try putting your kayak on some saw horses and filling it with water to see if it's leaking. Small cracks can form in the scupper holes where you can't see them.

lterrero · 10-22-2010, 09:52 AM

Hey Anthony, my Sport only makes water when is real choppy or I got 60lb WSB in the trunk and less than a half gallon. best thing to do is fill it with water & see for leaks or do what the Red Sled Team recommends.

tony · 10-22-2010, 04:34 PM

Check your drive well one more time......
Just below the cam knobs where the pins sit (if its pre click and go) for a tiny crack that opens up while pedaling. Found this twice before and its sometimes hard to see....

lterrero · 10-22-2010, 07:00 PM

Good Topic Tony...

driftwood · 10-22-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by lterrero

Good Topic Tony...

Como esta el famoso senor pescador? Come esta la pesca?
a pescado yellowtail or hollywoods?

deepdvr · 10-22-2010, 07:54 PM

Yeah...I'd like to see a pic of that 60 lb. WSB.

Check the rudder lines first. That is likely your issue.

If not, the water test is the next step.

However, some mirage drive cracks won't leak unless the yak is under a pedaling load so just filling it up with water may not replicate the leak.

lterrero · 10-22-2010, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by deepdvr

Yeah...I'd like to see a pic of that 60 lb. WSB.

Check the rudder lines first. That is likely your issue.

If not, the water test is the next step.

However, some mirage drive cracks won't leak unless the yak is under a pedaling load so just filling it up with water may not replicate the leak.

Yeah..! ask are friend Chris Lewis " not under" 60lbs

for your records...

LakersFan · 10-22-2010, 10:43 PM

Another thing to look for is leaking at the hatches. I don't have a Hobie but my Tarpon 160 takes on anywhere from a couple of drops to 3/4 gallon when I am out all day. The rougher it is the more leakage. I was watching a video I accidently made while the camera was aimed at the main hatch. I was paddling hard through the swells and could see the water would come over the top of the hatch, then the flexing of the hull would "oil can" and actually suck the water in from around the hatch.

This explains why I don't have much leakage when it is flat out. When the hull doesn't flex, it doesn't suck water in, even if there is water collecting around the hatch.

Billy V · 10-22-2010, 11:24 PM

Lumpy weather will cause some water to enter through the rudder cables.

Place a Home Depot grout sponge in the hull to collect the water, and carry a bilge pump until you get this sorted out.

Iceman · 10-23-2010, 08:36 AM

when people say "less than a gallon" I always suspect seepage at some point. A big enough guy in the Sport will likely have some seepage in the rudder cable entry points.

Anthony179 · 10-23-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lterrero

Hey Anthony, my Sport only makes water when is real choppy or I got 60lb WSB in the trunk and less than a half gallon. best thing to do is fill it with water & see for leaks or do what the Red Sled Team recommends.

Maybe one day I'll go to LJ and when you catch that 60lb WSB, we can put it on my yak just to see how much water I take in. Oh, and I'll take the credit for catching it.

I think my yak is more than 2 years old. So I'll just have to inspect it again. I want to thank everybody for the response.

lterrero · 10-23-2010, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Anthony179

Maybe one day I'll go to LJ and when you catch that 60lb WSB, we can put it on my yak just to see how much water I take in. Oh, and I'll take the credit for catching it.

I think my yak is more than 2 years old. So I'll just have to inspect it again. I want to thank everybody for the response.

A little water is ok, not 3gls.

10-22-2010, 07:56 AM	#1
Anthony179 A.T. Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Ontario, CA Posts: 146	Water in the yak I have a Hobie Sport and everytime I go out, I get water inside. I'm out in the water for about 6-8 hours. I guess it's less than a half gallon. It doesn't make that much difference in weight when I load it up on my truck. I've checked were the drive goes and the bottom of the yak. I can't see anything. Has anybody had this problem with a Hobie? Thanks.

10-22-2010, 09:51 AM	#3
AquaticHunter Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury Park Posts: 51	I would also try putting your kayak on some saw horses and filling it with water to see if it's leaking. Small cracks can form in the scupper holes where you can't see them. __________________ CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS Section 25. The people shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof...

10-22-2010, 11:24 PM	#11
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Lumpy weather will cause some water to enter through the rudder cables. Place a Home Depot grout sponge in the hull to collect the water, and carry a bilge pump until you get this sorted out. __________________

10-23-2010, 08:36 AM	#12
Iceman Administrator Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: 1-2 miles off the point Posts: 6,948	when people say "less than a gallon" I always suspect seepage at some point. A big enough guy in the Sport will likely have some seepage in the rudder cable entry points. __________________

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10-22-2010, 08:40 AM	#2
RedSledTeam Daddeo Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: OC Posts: 660	Yes. Check where the control lines enter the rear of the yak. Also, make sure that the inside end of the control line tube is maintained above the waterline. You may also want to check the rubber seal area where the tube enters the outside surface at the aft end of the yak. Last point, if your yak is less than 2 years old it may still be covered under a mfg warranty so check it out and if so, take it to your dealer for further inspection. He's probably done more than one inspection regarding this issue.

10-22-2010, 09:52 AM	#4
lterrero Leo Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: La Jolla, CA Posts: 482	Hey Anthony, my Sport only makes water when is real choppy or I got 60lb WSB in the trunk and less than a half gallon. best thing to do is fill it with water & see for leaks or do what the Red Sled Team recommends.

10-22-2010, 04:34 PM	#5
tony Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: La Jolla Posts: 130	Check your drive well one more time...... Just below the cam knobs where the pins sit (if its pre click and go) for a tiny crack that opens up while pedaling. Found this twice before and its sometimes hard to see....

10-22-2010, 07:00 PM	#6
lterrero Leo Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: La Jolla, CA Posts: 482	Good Topic Tony...

10-22-2010, 07:54 PM	#8
deepdvr Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 591	Yeah...I'd like to see a pic of that 60 lb. WSB. Check the rudder lines first. That is likely your issue. If not, the water test is the next step. However, some mirage drive cracks won't leak unless the yak is under a pedaling load so just filling it up with water may not replicate the leak.

10-22-2010, 10:43 PM	#10
LakersFan Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Socal Posts: 92	Another thing to look for is leaking at the hatches. I don't have a Hobie but my Tarpon 160 takes on anywhere from a couple of drops to 3/4 gallon when I am out all day. The rougher it is the more leakage. I was watching a video I accidently made while the camera was aimed at the main hatch. I was paddling hard through the swells and could see the water would come over the top of the hatch, then the flexing of the hull would "oil can" and actually suck the water in from around the hatch. This explains why I don't have much leakage when it is flat out. When the hull doesn't flex, it doesn't suck water in, even if there is water collecting around the hatch.