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[young mola]

was surfing bd earlier and came across his thread. my buddies call me a hippy cuz i c&r and i agree.. lol! but tell me this isnt wrong. i knew there were a few extreme dudes on there but this many? or am i really a hippy.. ?
http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/fi...y-stomach.html

[umtduckhead]

hippy!

http://www.scducks.com/forum/showthread.php?t=58615

http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...&ct=clnk&gl=us

[dfroggy54]

WTFFFF! I hope the people who eat the meat get sick. Thats just wrong.

[Gino]

Its funny how in this world, its more aceptable to eat people. Before it is to eat a dolphins.

So what they eat dolphins yum yum yum! Next hamburger you get you should see how they treated that cow! they arnt no hallal butcher either...

So what! the japanese wannt eat dolphins. Who is it our right to tell them not too. They already eating half the tuna. Al
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fOaCTddlng&NR=1

So in otherwords, i call you.

HIPPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwNvIM2W9Aw

[umtduckhead]

like i said somewhere else.. bring green tuna on a boat with a gaff floppin everywhere throwing blood all over etc... the tuna has a few holes in it.. its starving for o2 etc.. its not pretty! atleast the japs have enough sense to drag them around the corner away from the public.. DEATH ISNT PRETTY! either you believe in darwin or jesus.. doesnt matter jesus says we eat and repsect what we eat.. and darwin says evolution and natural selection... clearly we as humans are on TOP! now lets eat! cheers.

[Kahouna]

I watched the first episode of the show and was like, OK, dolphin must not taste that bad. I grew up chasing cows and turning dirt, hunted for 30+ years. I've made a few critters dead and enjoyed most of them as tablefare. People that get worked up over this stuff need to spend a day in a slaughterhouse. You sure do appreciate the meat on your table differently after that. My beautiful wife turned into a vegetarian for a couple years after seeing the process of grazing cow to wrapped in plastic. YOU are the one who has to draw YOUR line in what is acceptable. Our diversified cultures allow the eating of all sorts of stuff. We have the conscious to determine if it is right or wrong. OK, rant mode off, sorry guys.

[young mola]

damn i guess i am a hippy. oh well. everyones entitled to their own opinion but really? comparing free smart dolphins in the wild to dumb ass cows raised on farms for one purpose - for us to eat. its not the same. thats why i think its wrong - dolphins are the smartest animal on earth other than (some) humans. they are the only other animals that call each other by name. they think and remember and understand things.. like whats happening to them.. cows dont. and i think thats were the difference lies. like i said everyones entitled to their own opinion and im not trying to change anyone's but u guys gotta admit, theres at least a little difference between cows raised on a farm in a little pen for us to eat and a wild dolphin (other than the taste haha).

[Gino]

What are you God? lol

Who are you to say Cows arent Smart?
Maybe if we farm raise dolphins then it would be ok to eat them.

There isnt a differance, it all looks the same on a plate.

When my dolphin steak starts doing my taxes, or citing shakespear while sitting on my plate. then maybe ill see things your way.

My southpark clip explained it all. maybe if we convert them to slaughterign chickens and cows, it will be ok, becuase they will be more like us!

[Nic D]

now Gino,

there are major difference between cows and flipper.... come on man

whens the last time you seen a cow working with the navy?

[fishinkid2010]

Originally Posted by Tamarack Studios

whens the last time you seen a cow working with the navy?

I'm pretty sure they're called "Naval Security"! They kick me out of all the good spots in the bay!

Yeah, I saw that thread on BD... it's pretty sad the responses from some guys. Some of the crap the Japanese get away with is just appalling.

[Ohana]

While I do not like what they are doing to the dolphins, it is limited to an area and the species of dolphins are not endangered. There are species of dolphins going extinct due to habitat destruction and commercial fishing practices that should get the same or more attention but are not.

Now when it comes to the reasons they give for hunting whales on the open ocean, that is just wrong. I think that we have some Seawolf-class attack subs that could use the torpedo practice on large ships or testing of next-generation Harpoon anti-ship missiles...


Kevin

[Kahouna]

dumb ass cows raised on farms for one purpose- Ever stared at 1500 pounds of dumb when you are trying to do something to it's baby?

they are the only other animals that call each other by name. they think and remember and understand things.. like whats happening to them.. cows dont.- Ever seen a momma cow "call" her baby to her (MOOOO). Ever watched momma cow panic when she can't find her baby? Ever bring cows out of the pasture to sort them?

Not trying to compare the two, but what you see as dumb is a little bit off. Just because a cow can't do flips and smile at you doesn't mean it's dumb. They move in a herd (pod), feed in a herd (pod), sleep in a herd (pod), and will protect as a herd (pod), among other things besides end up in little pieces on styrofoam.

[wade]

Wednesday, August 18, 2010

Death in the Ferocious Isles:
Sea Shepherd under Escort by the Danish Navy

What can be more horrific than the cruel and senseless slaughter of beautiful and intelligent dolphins in Taiji, Japan?
The Academy Award winning film The Cove turned the international spotlight on the bloody carnage of dolphins screaming in pools of their own blood as Japanese fishermen speared them in the shallows of the cove.
What can be more obscenely monstrous than the pitiful screams of impaled dolphins slaughtered without mercy for profit?
There is something worse, far more cruel and wasteful, and it takes place in Europe.

Sea Shepherd Conservation Society’s undercover ship, the Golfo Azzurro, is presently under pursuit by the Danish Navy after a month of covert surveillance operations in the Danish Protectorate of the Faeroe Islands.
It is in these islands, halfway between Scotland and Iceland, that the slaughter of entire pods of pilot whales takes place. Not for profit, but because it is considered by the islanders to be fun to kill them.
They do eat some whale meat but the flesh is so contaminated with mercury that Faeroese children have higher levels of mercury in their bodies than any other people on the planet. But the majority of the whales are killed and dumped at sea, and Sea Shepherd was able to secure evidence of this waste.
The images are nightmarish with fetuses torn from the bodies of mothers, and bodies mutilated with clubs, knives and spears as the islanders drive the defenseless whales up onto rocky beaches killing every one, wiping out entire pods.

Danish navy boards and searches
Golfo Azzurro
In Taiji, experienced fishermen do the killing, but in the Faeroes, even the children are encouraged by men to spear and stab the whales to death; many of these men are drunk and laughing, in what they consider to be a traditional festival of slaughter.
The killing is a violation of the Berne Convention of which Denmark is a signatory, but Denmark claims that the Faeroese are not subject to the law as a protectorate despite receiving all benefits from the European Community.
Sea Shepherd, in partnership with the Brigitte Bardot Foundation, worked earlier this summer with an on-the-ground undercover operative and continues to work at sea onboard the Golfo Azzurro to expose the slaughter and investigate ways to defend the pilot whales from the vicious and lethal assaults by the Faeroese.

Yesterday the Golfo Azzurro’s cover was compromised, and the ship was boarded and searched by police. The vessel was released because no laws had been broken, and it is presently being escorted by the Danish Navy. XXXXX
Sea Shepherd crew members are continuing their patrol, but this time under the watchful eyes and guns of the Danish Navy.



In addition to images that show the indiscriminate nature of the grind, Jonsson was also able to document that several whales had multiple wounds to the head, showing that their deaths were far from painless; and she was able to photograph disturbing images of children partaking in the grind.
Jonsson stated, “I saw children helping their parents cut the whales up. I saw children sitting on whales; their idea of play was to make carvings in the blubber of the dead pilot whales. In the Faeroes, slaughtering cetaceans is definitely a family affair.”
The grind in Leynar took place before the discovery of the Sea Shepherd vessel Golfo Azzuro by Faeroese authorities. Since then, no pilot whales have been killed in the Faeroe Islands. Sea Shepherd is using noise deterrents to keep the pilot whales away from the Ferocious Islands. X


Faeroe Islands: New Photos Show that Bloodbath in Leynar Claimed Four Pregnant Females

On August 5, 2010, a pod of 80 pilot whales was cruelly slaughtered on the beach of Leynar in the Danish Faeroe Islands. Once again, the grind was merciless, as even pregnant females fell victim to the knives of the Faeroe Islanders. Every summer, hundreds—sometimes thousands—of pilot whales are deliberately stranded before their spinal cords are severed with knives in a centuries-old bloody ritual.
Now that Sea Shepherd Conservation Society’s Undercover Operative, Sofia Jonsson, has safely left the Faeroes, Sea Shepherd is able to release shocking images that show that little has changed in the Faeroe Islands since the grind in Klaksvik that Sea Shepherd documented two weeks earlier.
Sea Shepherd activist and marine biologist Sofia Jonsson switched out with veteran Peter Hammarstedt after his cover was compromised in Klaksvik. When Jonsson heard news of the bloodshed in Leynar, she immediately headed to the town of Kivik, where the cetaceans had been transported.
According to Jonsson, “When I arrived, I noticed that several pregnant females had been killed, but their babies were nowhere to be seen. The fetuses had all been moved into either big plastic containers or black garbage bags. I realized that they were hiding them from any prying eyes. I was still able to count at least four dead babies.”
In Klaksvik, Sea Shepherd was able to document several cases where fetuses had been cut directly out of their mothers’ wombs, left to rot on the docks while still attached to the umbilical cord. The images received worldwide attention.XX
“There was a forklift on the docks that arranged the pilot whales in neat rows,” said Jonsson. “As the whalers were cutting up one of the female pilot whales, they realized that she was pregnant. The whalers asked the forklift driver to turn the cetacean around so that they could cut the fetus out without being seen by the public.”

http://www.seashepherd.org/news-and-...-100818-1.html

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[civic fisher]

It is very unfortunate that some countries can't police themselves and are being very destructive to the fisheries they will not be able to destroy in the future.As far as the dolphin killings go I don't agree with them,but is a very touchy subject.As long as the resources are there,it's hard to say you can't.It would be like if we didn't farm animals but still ate steaks,and theres plenty of resources,would you let someone tell you you cant eat that steak?The whole whale thing is a sham and they sell and dont research enough of the whales.The country of Japan needs to step up its own policeing on take and practices(they have many scientists and citizens that are worried about the lack of government policies)Also as a side note UMTDUCKHEAD using racial slurs that offend whole races of people is not the smartest way to address groups of fisherman,government,etc.

[Gino]

Ok since dolphins are so sophisticated, and such amazing creatures, with human like qualities (that you all idenfity with)

why wont be give them all work Visa and or make them US citezins, have them work for the navy, pay taxes, and contribute to society?
have the purpose at Seaworld beocme unionized...

They eat Gorillas and monkeys in Africa... why shouldnt we be protesting that too? in fact acording to science they are genetically 99% something like us? They posess all the same qualities.

Its becuase they are cute, that gets people so animated. It has nothing to do with how smart the animal is.

Look im just saying food is food. People of differant cultures eat differant things. How smart an animal is has nothing to do with how it taste. we dont have a right to nanny state the world from yummy creatures that they eat. We dont allow whaling and dolphin eating here in the USA that should be good enough.

[StinkyMatt]

To any fisherman or hunter out there that is bashing someone else's choice of pray....get a hold of yourself! Every culture has its own rules, norms, let people do their thing.

As soon as YOU start picking on another person, you can't complain about the tree huggers/ PETA people who try to pick on YOU!

The guy in INDIA (population 1 billion +-) does not tell us Americans not to kill cows...even though he might find it unsettling. So, I am going to stuff that Big ass steak in my face until I can catch me a nice YT, KILL IT, and grill it.

I heard that YT are sooo intelligent and I find them cuter than a dolphin!

[bmercury]

Of course it is different to kill a dolphin than it is to kill a cow or tuna.

Anyone that has ever taken a basic science class or two should understand the significance of the sentience/sapience/social behavior seen in dolphins. Dolphins being cute is why they are kept in captivity(which usually makes them very sick/they end up needing complex medical interventions, on antidepressants etc). That is not why they are seen as having a human-like mind.

YT are not intelligent. Big fish look intelligent due to their size. They do have some limited table manners, but are for the most part mindless eating machines.

And in India not only do they not eat cows... They used to engage in widow burning... Still engage in some forms of wife burning rarely. Not wrong, just a different culture? Just because something happens in the context of another culture does not make it ethical.

[StinkyMatt]

(which usually makes them very sick/they end up needing complex medical interventions, on antidepressants etc) - bmercury

Thanks for making my point bmercury.

Dolphins on antidepressants?! You have got to be kidding me......Hey, when is the next PETA meeting?

[Nic D]

Hey StinkyMatt.... Id love to hear your thoughts on this quote.

Originally Posted by bmercury

And in India not only do they not eat cows... They used to engage in widow burning... Still engage in some forms of wife burning rarely. Not wrong, just a different culture? Just because something happens in the context of another culture does not make it ethical.

[StinkyMatt]

So because a society (or a few members of it) does (or did in the past) something that you do not agree with or is not moral you discount EVERYTHING they believe or do? Lets see, we murdered Native Americans, imprisoned the Japaneese, had slavery for a couple hundred years, we are the only country to drop an atomic bomb on a civilian population..... does this make ALL of us bad? or our values less or more imortant than those of other cultures?

Bringing "burning widows" into the discussion of which species a fisherman can or can not legally kill is silly. You may or may not want to kill a calico, tshark, a WSB or dolphin, but you don't want to go and be the "God" that determines WHICH species are OK. It is simply not good for our sport of fishing for us FISHERMEN to start making a stand against a group of people who happen to legally harvest a different species then what we hunt. When fishermen can not even be united in the effort to maintain our freedom/ right to harvest animals or fish, think how easy we make it for the enviro groups to attack us.

I want to fish and not have to look over my shoulder at the beach to see if a fellow fisherman is criticizing my choice of keeper (legal) fish.