Lobster Hoop Net Gear changes?

[Saba Slayer]

Hi Guys
The DFG is considering a change in the regulations for Lobster Hoop Net gear.
There will be two informational meetings and you can comment at that time: Tuesday Sept.22 at 7pm at the Outboard Boating Club at Shelter Island Boat Ramp facility, 2210 Shelter Island Drive in S.D.
Thursday Sept.24th at 6:30pm at the Upper Newport Bay Ecological Reserve, 600 Shellmaker Road in Newport Beach.
I am trying to contact the DFG and schedule another meeting that is closer for the LA and Ventura County guys. I'll post if something comes up!
If you are interested and want some more info here is the link to the DFG site with some pdf downloads...
http://www.fgc.ca.gov/regulations/ne...dregs09.asp#sf
Scroll down to the following and you'll get caught up on all the info.

Gear Restrictions - Salt Water Crustaceans (Hoop Nets)
Amend Section 29.80
Initial Statment of Reasons for Regulatory Action (.pdf format) Proposed Regulatory Language (.pdf format)
Spiny Lobsters (Lobster tailing)
Amend Section 29.90
Initial Statment of Reasons for Regulatory Action (.pdf format) Proposed Regulatory Language (.pdf format)

If you would like to contact the DFG commission before Oct. 1st which is the next meeting date and express how you feel and which proposal you like or if you have some alternate info to offer please do so. Here is the contact info...
California Fish and Game Commission
1416 Ninth Street
P.O. Box 944209
Sacramento, CA 94244-2090

Phone # (916) 653-4899

Fax # (916) 653-5040

E-Mail fgc@fgc.ca.gov
(Please include the subject of the regulations in the E-Mail subject line.)
Section 29.80, Title 14, CCR, Gear Restriction Option #1 or Option #2 (Lobster Hoop Nets)

[wade]

Thanks for the heads up..Pursuant to the Governnator, The FngG has the 1st ..2nd.. & 3rd Fridays off...How will this ultimately effect this years Eclipse "HOOP" net usage?.. The land proposal /tailing/ is fine with me..but will these upcoming natzi-rules aka Gear Restrictions/ammendments, possibly go into effect 09 or 2010?...

[T Bone]

Can someone explain what they want to do?I tried to download the pdf but couldnt.Are they going to ban eclipse nets?I knew that there legality was allways a bit hazy.The DFG book says nets must lay flat.I thought the eclipses nets still didnt "Trap" lobster since they should be able to climb back out but that if spooked by the pull they would tail flick themselves further into the net.Am I wrong?

[Rik]

Originally Posted by T Bone

Can someone explain what they want to do?I tried to download the pdf but couldnt.Are they going to ban eclipse nets?I knew that there legality was allways a bit hazy.The DFG book says nets must lay flat.I thought the eclipses nets still didnt "Trap" lobster since they should be able to climb back out but that if spooked by the pull they would tail flick themselves further into the net.Am I wrong?

The way Jim explained it to me yesterday is that the DFG has come up with 2 options for hoop net gear regulations.

Option 1 would ban all "conical" type nets (Eclipse, Ambush, and Danielson)
and would allow 5 flat nets per person or a total of 10 per boat.

Option 2 would allow us to continue to use all " conical" type nets, but would be limited to 3 per person or total of 6 per boat.

that's the gist of it, if you can attend the meeting at Shelter Island on Tuesday @ 7pm, you can find out more.

-hope that helps a bit

[T Bone]

thanks

[BT]

Well I plan on stopping by and talking to the DFG. I think the second alternative of limiting you to 3 nets is silly. Lets say I want to fish just flat style nets. So now I can only take out three flat nets if I read that alternative correctly? There is really no compromise in either option. It is ban the eclpise, or lower the nets to 3. I was going to get a few more eclipse this year but will now wait it out.

And even the tailing thing is a little silly. Does the DFG really think that telling people they cant tail them until being prepared for immediate consumption will do anything except take up more room in my freezer? I can understand not tailing them until you get home, but making you keep them whole is a little silly once you get home.

Hope this doesnt hurt the guys that have been making us the nets.