Public comment points--MLPA public workshops starting tomorrow June 29, 2009 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

zenspearo · 06-28-2009, 02:39 PM

Hi all,

By now, I hope everyone has put the dates into your calendar and planned to attend one or more of the MLPA public workshops coming to your town.

It starts tomorrow.

We need to show up and comment by writing in the form provided at the meeting. All of us. It would be a travesty if the majority/all of the written comments received in your area come from the kick-human-off-the-ocean crowd, giving the MLPA people and the RSG reps the impression that most of the public wants closures and more closures right in your favorite fishing areas.

This will be reflected in the third round closure maps, to the detriment of fishermen.

I have typed up the points I thought would be relevant for spearos/fishermen to write for the public comments.

However, knowing that how easy it is to troll and plagiarize and to minimize the other side's ability to counter our points, I'm keeping these semi-confidential. Part of it is some of my writing has been stolen by an enviro RSG rep before, and I don't want to help this gal when she should be doing her job for her constituents.

However, I want to share these with bona fide spearos and fishermen.

If you would like a copy of the discussion points I wrote so you have some idea of what another person would write (really, I want you to have it as a resource and of course, please add your own thoughts), PM me and I will send it to you.

Please include your email address in the PM. The writing points are too long for a single PM.

I'm also sending it in advance to a list of people that you can get it from (whom I know personally). If you don't hear from me, please PM Holy Mackerel, Billy V, Tyler Durden, and they can send it to you. Don't wait for me, if you don't hear from me in response to your PM request. Go to one of the other guys as I may be running around today.

Thanks and hope to see you at the workshops. We are approaching the end--keep it up gang. Again, PM me or one of these people above if you want the speaking/comment points.

Note: All meetings are from 5:30PM to 8:30PM

Monday, June 29
Hilton Garden Inn
6450 Carlsbad Blvd.
Carlsbad, CA 92011
(760) 476-0800

Tuesday, June 30
Marina Village Conference Center
1936 Quivira Way
San Diego, CA 92109
(619) 222-1620

Wednesday, July 1
Aliso Creek Inn
31106 South Coast Highway
Laguna Beach, CA 92651
(949) 499-2271

Monday, July 6
Simons Banquet Center
Ports O Call Village, Berth 80
1050 Nagoya Way
San Pedro, CA 90731
(310) 514-1050

Tuesday, July 7
Marina del Rey Hotel
13534 Bali Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90292
(310) 301-1000

Wednesday, July 8
Residence Inn
2101 W Vineyard Ave.
Oxnard, CA 93036
(805) 278-2200

Thursday, July 9
Fess Parker's Doubletree
633 East Cabrillo Blvd.
Santa Barbara, CA 93103
(805) 564-4333

Monday, July 13
Catalina Island
Avalon City Hall
410 Avalon Canyon Rd,
Avalon, CA 90704
(310) 510-0220

zenspearo · 06-28-2009, 03:03 PM

Can someone please cross-post to the other kayakfishing websites (I don't have memberships to them) and help with the speaking point distribution over there?

Thanks.

Joe.

tylerdurden · 06-28-2009, 05:56 PM

Thanks Joe.

Bump. Two chances in San Diego to be heard. Let's do it

.

Spyder · 06-28-2009, 09:12 PM

Thanks Joe. PM sent. I'll be at the Tuesday meeting.

Norm222 · 06-28-2009, 10:27 PM

PM sent. Thanks, Joe.

herbo · 06-29-2009, 12:13 AM

will pm you Joe, planning to take in the San Pedro and hope to also do MDR.....H

MVC · 06-29-2009, 07:12 AM

Will send PM. I plan on attending the Orange Co meeting.

zenspearo · 06-29-2009, 10:26 AM

Writing points sent to all who have furnished me with an email addy. Go get 'em guys. Thanks for getting involved.

tylerdurden · 06-29-2009, 10:44 AM

bump again...
Everyone on Saturday was motivated to get out there and do some good for our cause, lets not let that motivation slip away. Lets keep at it and show up.

Holy Mackerel · 06-29-2009, 10:45 AM

I sent them out too, great points Joe!

If anyone wants them send me a PM with your email address.

Please be known BWE member,

not a new member like below.

FROMAN
join date 06-29-09
Tijuana

06-28-2009, 02:39 PM	#1
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Public comment points--MLPA public workshops starting tomorrow June 29, 2009 Hi all, By now, I hope everyone has put the dates into your calendar and planned to attend one or more of the MLPA public workshops coming to your town. It starts tomorrow. We need to show up and comment by writing in the form provided at the meeting. All of us. It would be a travesty if the majority/all of the written comments received in your area come from the kick-human-off-the-ocean crowd, giving the MLPA people and the RSG reps the impression that most of the public wants closures and more closures right in your favorite fishing areas. This will be reflected in the third round closure maps, to the detriment of fishermen. I have typed up the points I thought would be relevant for spearos/fishermen to write for the public comments. However, knowing that how easy it is to troll and plagiarize and to minimize the other side's ability to counter our points, I'm keeping these semi-confidential. Part of it is some of my writing has been stolen by an enviro RSG rep before, and I don't want to help this gal when she should be doing her job for her constituents. However, I want to share these with bona fide spearos and fishermen. If you would like a copy of the discussion points I wrote so you have some idea of what another person would write (really, I want you to have it as a resource and of course, please add your own thoughts), PM me and I will send it to you. Please include your email address in the PM. The writing points are too long for a single PM. I'm also sending it in advance to a list of people that you can get it from (whom I know personally). If you don't hear from me, please PM Holy Mackerel, Billy V, Tyler Durden, and they can send it to you. Don't wait for me, if you don't hear from me in response to your PM request. Go to one of the other guys as I may be running around today. Thanks and hope to see you at the workshops. We are approaching the end--keep it up gang. Again, PM me or one of these people above if you want the speaking/comment points. Note: All meetings are from 5:30PM to 8:30PM Monday, June 29 Hilton Garden Inn 6450 Carlsbad Blvd. Carlsbad, CA 92011 (760) 476-0800 Tuesday, June 30 Marina Village Conference Center 1936 Quivira Way San Diego, CA 92109 (619) 222-1620 Wednesday, July 1 Aliso Creek Inn 31106 South Coast Highway Laguna Beach, CA 92651 (949) 499-2271 Monday, July 6 Simons Banquet Center Ports O Call Village, Berth 80 1050 Nagoya Way San Pedro, CA 90731 (310) 514-1050 Tuesday, July 7 Marina del Rey Hotel 13534 Bali Way Marina del Rey, CA 90292 (310) 301-1000 Wednesday, July 8 Residence Inn 2101 W Vineyard Ave. Oxnard, CA 93036 (805) 278-2200 Thursday, July 9 Fess Parker's Doubletree 633 East Cabrillo Blvd. Santa Barbara, CA 93103 (805) 564-4333 Monday, July 13 Catalina Island Avalon City Hall 410 Avalon Canyon Rd, Avalon, CA 90704 (310) 510-0220 __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together Last edited by zenspearo; 06-28-2009 at 08:39 PM.

06-28-2009, 03:03 PM	#2
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Can someone please cross-post to the other kayakfishing websites (I don't have memberships to them) and help with the speaking point distribution over there? Thanks. Joe. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

06-28-2009, 05:56 PM	#3
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Thanks Joe. Bump. Two chances in San Diego to be heard. Let's do it . __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-29-2009, 12:13 AM	#6
herbo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canyon Country, Ca. Posts: 116	will pm you Joe, planning to take in the San Pedro and hope to also do MDR.....H __________________ mellow yellow malibu eXtreme

06-29-2009, 10:26 AM	#8
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Writing points sent to all who have furnished me with an email addy. Go get 'em guys. Thanks for getting involved. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

06-28-2009, 09:12 PM	#4
Spyder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 169	Thanks Joe. PM sent. I'll be at the Tuesday meeting.

06-28-2009, 10:27 PM	#5
Norm222 Junior Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 12	PM sent. Thanks, Joe.

06-29-2009, 07:12 AM	#7
MVC Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Costa Mesa Posts: 278	Will send PM. I plan on attending the Orange Co meeting.

06-29-2009, 10:44 AM	#9
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	bump again... Everyone on Saturday was motivated to get out there and do some good for our cause, lets not let that motivation slip away. Lets keep at it and show up. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-29-2009, 10:45 AM	#10
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	I sent them out too, great points Joe! If anyone wants them send me a PM with your email address. Please be known BWE member, not a new member like below. FROMAN join date 06-29-09 Tijuana

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