Hobie Wheel Cart - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

ajcm648 · 10-20-2020, 10:07 AM

Does anyone use the heavy duty wheels on sand? I've been launching from boat ramps and was gonna try out a beach launch but was wondering if i would need the sand tires. Thanks.

igotpron · 10-20-2020, 10:31 AM

An empty kayak is possible. Can be brutal if you have a pro angler, or much added weight loded on the kayak. The heavy duty wheels plow threw the sand instead of gracefully rolling over. Try it once and youll most likely be making the switch. With the big sand tires and proper balancing of the kayak they pull over sand much easier and be loaded with everything you got.

Where are you considering beach launching? Short distance you can do it. But have to make trips for your gear. Somewhere like newports coast guard station, made me buy a set of wheels after one trip with a pro angler.

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cris · 10-20-2020, 10:37 AM

I too bought wheels after one trip to the Newport Coast Guard station. I rarely use them elsewhere but it opens some interesting options

JohnMckroidJr · 10-20-2020, 11:17 AM

My first used PA14 came with heavy-duty wheels, tried it once - very laborious. For a short distance may be tolerable, but that was not the case in my area.
I went with the 42cm Wheel Ezz, expensive, but way cheaper than an injured back. Most go with 30cm wheels, but the larger wheels will roll over any indentations in the sand just a little easier.

cris · 10-20-2020, 12:07 PM

It’s also worth noting that while it’s easy enough to get a loaded kayak off the wheels by lifting it up bits much harder to get a loaded kayak back on after a day on the water. Yes you can lean it over and try and get the wheels in but it’s not as easy as it sounds...

ajcm648 · 10-20-2020, 12:13 PM

Was thinking launching out of Cherry beach or Alamitos bay. I have a 2020 outback so it's not too heavy. Eventually would like to launch out in La Jolla.

Hunters Pa · 10-20-2020, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cris

It’s also worth noting that while it’s easy enough to get a loaded kayak off the wheels by lifting it up bits much harder to get a loaded kayak back on after a day on the water. Yes you can lean it over and try and get the wheels in but it’s not as easy as it sounds...

Putting the wheels on is easier while still in the water

Saba Slayer · 10-20-2020, 01:43 PM

Go with the Big wheels on the sand...anything else is just plowing sand...LOL
I roll my FULLY loaded PA14 360 over on it's side all the time at the launch to remove or insert the wheels...
Here's an old video...but you get the idea...
https://youtu.be/1s7vtouwYx0

SoCalEDC · 10-20-2020, 02:52 PM

The sand tires were ok for my outback. I didnt have the 2-30 cart, just the regular sand wheels, so maybe thats why. I just felt like they didnt do as good a job in deep sand as the c-tug cart.

The hobie cart stores nicely on the back of the OB and probably other hobies as well, but as others have mentioned, putting the kayak on the cart when you get back to the beach is a 2 person job unless you want to completely unload the kayak before using the cart which imo defeats the purpose. I found myself often just dragging the kayak accross the sand until i got to pavement and then pulling my truck up to that point and loading up because it was too difficult and I didnt want to dump all my gear trying to get the wheels on it.

IMO the c-tug is a better cart and the sandtrax (think tank tracks) are better than the balloon wheels in deep dry sand but its not as convenient to store while on the water because it takes up an entire hatch. The c-tug is easier to load by yourself, but its got its draw backs, because it doesnt utilize the scuppers you have to make sure you strap it at a good point of balance, (i.e. probably right where the hobie cart would plug in), and the strap gets sandy sometimes which annoys the sh*t out of me.

I thought OEX sold these carts but i couldnt find them on their shop online website. Maybe give Andy a call and see.

Otherwise they are listed here:
https://www.austinkayak.com/CTug-Kay...ACK20575P.html

Tallangler · 10-20-2020, 02:58 PM

I have a PA14 and let me tell you, its a tank. I'm good for about 20yards or so with regular wheels.
boat ramps are nice

igotpron · 10-20-2020, 03:47 PM

You do not need two people, or have to flip your kayak to insert your hobie cart. Check out this video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLFK7GKyW8

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SoCalEDC · 10-20-2020, 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igotpron

You do not need two people, or have to flip your kayak to insert your hobie cart. Check out this video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLFK7GKyW8

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Cool. Looks kind of hokie to me but I guess if it keeps you wanting to fish then so be it

ajcm648 · 10-20-2020, 04:03 PM

Thanks for the info. Gonna stop by OEX on the way home today.

cris · 10-20-2020, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igotpron

You do not need two people, or have to flip your kayak to insert your hobie cart. Check out this video

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLFK7GKyW8

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Yeah, pretty clever but you still have to lift the kayak with all your gear.

cris · 10-20-2020, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hunters Pa

Putting the wheels on is easier while still in the water

Lol the wheels are pretty buoyant. Not saying it’s impossible but definitely not a pleasure either

FullFlavorPike · 10-21-2020, 10:44 AM

don't even waste your time bro -- sand wheels or carry the boat

jorluivil · 10-21-2020, 11:17 AM

I have a cart that uses the sand wheels, I don't need it anymore.............both wheels are flat, if you're interested I can cut you a deal.

If you plan on doing beach launches I would suggest nothing less than the balloon wheels, using the regular smaller black wheels sucks!!!

ajcm648 · 10-21-2020, 11:32 AM

Would I need to buy a new cart or just the wheels?

SoCalEDC · 10-21-2020, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajcm648

Would I need to buy a new cart or just the wheels?

What does you current cart look like? is it the hobie plug in cart?

ajcm648 · 10-21-2020, 03:39 PM

It's the Hobie heavy duty one.

10-20-2020, 10:07 AM	#1
ajcm648 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Huntington Beach Ca Posts: 33	Hobie Wheel Cart Does anyone use the heavy duty wheels on sand? I've been launching from boat ramps and was gonna try out a beach launch but was wondering if i would need the sand tires. Thanks.

10-20-2020, 10:31 AM	#2
igotpron Xcoastie Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Westminster Posts: 285	Hobie Wheel Cart An empty kayak is possible. Can be brutal if you have a pro angler, or much added weight loded on the kayak. The heavy duty wheels plow threw the sand instead of gracefully rolling over. Try it once and youll most likely be making the switch. With the big sand tires and proper balancing of the kayak they pull over sand much easier and be loaded with everything you got. Where are you considering beach launching? Short distance you can do it. But have to make trips for your gear. Somewhere like newports coast guard station, made me buy a set of wheels after one trip with a pro angler. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-20-2020, 01:43 PM	#8
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,857	Easy Peasy... Go with the Big wheels on the sand...anything else is just plowing sand...LOL I roll my FULLY loaded PA14 360 over on it's side all the time at the launch to remove or insert the wheels... Here's an old video...but you get the idea... https://youtu.be/1s7vtouwYx0 __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

10-20-2020, 02:52 PM	#9
SoCalEDC Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 609	The sand tires were ok for my outback. I didnt have the 2-30 cart, just the regular sand wheels, so maybe thats why. I just felt like they didnt do as good a job in deep sand as the c-tug cart. The hobie cart stores nicely on the back of the OB and probably other hobies as well, but as others have mentioned, putting the kayak on the cart when you get back to the beach is a 2 person job unless you want to completely unload the kayak before using the cart which imo defeats the purpose. I found myself often just dragging the kayak accross the sand until i got to pavement and then pulling my truck up to that point and loading up because it was too difficult and I didnt want to dump all my gear trying to get the wheels on it. IMO the c-tug is a better cart and the sandtrax (think tank tracks) are better than the balloon wheels in deep dry sand but its not as convenient to store while on the water because it takes up an entire hatch. The c-tug is easier to load by yourself, but its got its draw backs, because it doesnt utilize the scuppers you have to make sure you strap it at a good point of balance, (i.e. probably right where the hobie cart would plug in), and the strap gets sandy sometimes which annoys the sh*t out of me. I thought OEX sold these carts but i couldnt find them on their shop online website. Maybe give Andy a call and see. Otherwise they are listed here: https://www.austinkayak.com/CTug-Kay...ACK20575P.html __________________ IG: @blackflag_fishing Youtube: Blackflag Fishing 2014 Ocean Kayak T13 SOLD 2020 Hobie Outback SOLD 2021 Stealth Fisha 500 #StealthTribe

10-21-2020, 11:17 AM	#17
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	I have a cart that uses the sand wheels, I don't need it anymore.............both wheels are flat, if you're interested I can cut you a deal. If you plan on doing beach launches I would suggest nothing less than the balloon wheels, using the regular smaller black wheels sucks!!! __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

10-20-2020, 10:37 AM	#3
cris Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 254	I too bought wheels after one trip to the Newport Coast Guard station. I rarely use them elsewhere but it opens some interesting options

10-20-2020, 11:17 AM	#4
JohnMckroidJr Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 1,945	My first used PA14 came with heavy-duty wheels, tried it once - very laborious. For a short distance may be tolerable, but that was not the case in my area. I went with the 42cm Wheel Ezz, expensive, but way cheaper than an injured back. Most go with 30cm wheels, but the larger wheels will roll over any indentations in the sand just a little easier.

10-20-2020, 12:07 PM	#5
cris Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 254	It’s also worth noting that while it’s easy enough to get a loaded kayak off the wheels by lifting it up bits much harder to get a loaded kayak back on after a day on the water. Yes you can lean it over and try and get the wheels in but it’s not as easy as it sounds...

10-20-2020, 12:13 PM	#6
ajcm648 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Huntington Beach Ca Posts: 33	Was thinking launching out of Cherry beach or Alamitos bay. I have a 2020 outback so it's not too heavy. Eventually would like to launch out in La Jolla.

10-20-2020, 02:58 PM	#10
Tallangler Junior Join Date: Mar 2019 Posts: 7	I have a PA14 and let me tell you, its a tank. I'm good for about 20yards or so with regular wheels. boat ramps are nice

10-20-2020, 03:47 PM	#11
igotpron Xcoastie Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Westminster Posts: 285	You do not need two people, or have to flip your kayak to insert your hobie cart. Check out this video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBLFK7GKyW8 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

10-20-2020, 04:03 PM	#13
ajcm648 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Huntington Beach Ca Posts: 33	Thanks for the info. Gonna stop by OEX on the way home today.

10-21-2020, 10:44 AM	#16
FullFlavorPike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 809	don't even waste your time bro -- sand wheels or carry the boat

10-21-2020, 11:32 AM	#18
ajcm648 Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Location: Huntington Beach Ca Posts: 33	Would I need to buy a new cart or just the wheels?

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