Sabiki help

[deaddogdoug]

Had my kayak for a few months now and could use some info on using a sabiki rig in Mission Bay to catch bait. What size hook package would you recommend, Is there a preference of rods to use do you use a bobber and do you attract the smelt with a canned tuna/catfood or what do you recommend ? Thanks for your help guys.............

[ful-rac]

I've been using size 16 hooks as of late and they have been working very well for me. Seems to work pretty good for the small and big stuff. No bobber, no cat food no bread crumbs....Every school doesn't bite, watch your fishfinder for schools of bait and drop on them, if it doesn't bite move on to the next one and find one that does.

[jorluivil]

Tony's right...........just a few weekends ago we were out and starting scanning around for bait.

1st school of bait..........nada, not even a nibble
2nd school of bait..........they must have been related to the first school of bait
3rd school of bait...........picked one up and just as quick as i was able to dehook it the school was gone.
We ended up making enough bait to get us through the day but it was tuff to get it.

One suggestion I can make is to troll the sabiki a few yard back behind while you're looking for the schools. Every so often you'll snag a loner, do that a few times and before you know it you'll have enough bait to start fishing. Personally, I don't wait until I have a ton of bait, my first two baits get pinned on and I start fishing right where the schools are, you'd be surprised how often I've gotten hit when I did that.

[Deamon]

Originally Posted by jorluivil

Personally, I don't wait until I have a ton of bait, my first two baits get pinned on and I start fishing right where the schools are, you'd be surprised how often I've gotten hit when I did that.

It took me almost a year to get this info from you and now you're giving it up to a Dead Dog named Doug just like a cheap hor walking Rosecrans Avenue would...whatever.

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Deamon

It took me almost a year to get this info from you and now you're giving it up to a Dead Dog named Doug just like a cheap hor walking Rosecrans Avenue would...whatever.

That was payback for all those San Diego trips to your 'secret spot' that produced nothing crap.............you member?

Now you're complaining? Just last week you thanked me for giving that same bait making advise. The text read, "Jorge, I can't thank you enough for your advise, your bait making knowledge is second to none......I am greatful for the information you have given me, I hope that someday I will be just like you". It goes on and on and you even mentioned something about shedding a tear or two. Anyway, how did that LJ November WSB taste?

[ericko]

Ladies Ladies just stop already...why you heated over the little fish we all know its the big fish that matter ... You both have proven how to catch them.....

[Cbad Mike]

Brahahaha.

[Deamon]

Dead Dog...my friend,
Asking for and receiving fishing related information from others "outside of your region" can waste a lot of your time. These yahoos are fishing waters that may seem similar to Mission Bay but can be far from it. At times, you'll receive good bits of info mixed in with a lot of hub-bub. These wannabe's will go so far as to slap a 15 second cut-n-paste photo pic of someone else's nice fish and put their mug onto it. Like the photo below...just look at all of the lines that don't fit this poser...I'm just saying.



Here's the deal:
If you can, try to make your bait while the tide is moving. Of course that's usually the best time to catch a fish so when making bait, you can really waste good fishing time. Why not run to the bait barge and buy a $10 kayak scoop? That can be a BIG shortcut because making bait in Mission Bay can be inconsistent. But I digress...

When I'm flat broke and I don't have $10 worth of empty PEPSI cans in the back of my truck ...and I need to make some bait in MB...I head out to the Bay's entrance, metering along the way. Yeah there are times when you can load up mackerel near the bait receiver and that def is my 2nd option but the mouth has the real moving water. Meter around either jetty corner and drop whenever you see marks on your meter...when it's really slow, tip your hooks with micro pieces of squid or at least dip them in UniButter.

But you new guys at times don't yet have a decent meter or even a bait system...raise your odds tremendously...get both...increase your odds even more, fish San Diego Bay for butts. But whatever you do, don't trust the fakers/posers/wannbe momma boys. Good luck. Jim

[TJones]

Let's keep it rolling . More info please . Or Bait Porn . .

[jorluivil]

Originally Posted by Deamon

When I'm flat broke and I don't have $10 worth of empty PEPSI cans in the back of my truck ...and I need to make some bait in MB...I head out to the Bay's entrance, metering along the way. Yeah there are times when you can load up mackerel near the bait receiver and that def is my 2nd option but the mouth has the real moving water. Meter around either jetty corner and drop whenever you see marks on your meter...when it's really slow, tip your hooks with micro pieces of squid or at least dip them in UniButter.

But you new guys at times don't yet have a decent meter or even a bait system...raise your odds tremendously...get both...increase your odds even more, fish San Diego Bay for butts. But whatever you do, don't trust the fakers/posers/wannbe momma boys. Good luck. Jim

Jim, you bring up some good points here and just so you know, I will no longer judge a book(you) by its cover. A quality fish finder and a bait tank that can hold your bait for hours are worth more than a truck load of Pepsi product..........by the way, I didn't know they still made Pepsi. The last time I heard anything about Pepsi was when Michael Jacksons hair caught fire during the making of a Pepsi commercial.

Anyway, does anyone know a good landscaper in the San Diego area?

[taggermike]

First off I don't fish MB often, but this is the bait making that works for me in South SD Bay. Most of the bait your going to make in the bays is going to be smelt. They have small mouths so get the smallest hooks you can. I do chum when making bait. Bread or mashed up dry pet food works for me. Smelt can be harder than mackerel to catch some times so it can take some time to get a school behind the boat. Mike

[LBKayakDude]

I sometimes bring a baggy of old bread crumbs, tortillas etc. On calmer days or on days with mellow current u can throw out a handful or two and keep the smelt school around a bit longer. This doesn't always work but it has for me more than once

[deaddogdoug]

Thanks Guys for the info was not aware of the kayak scoop at the bait barge. Tight Lines.....