Problem with Charkbait brand Sabiki rod? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

10-09-2011, 10:05 PM

Has anyone run into problems with the Charkbait rod? Whenever I let my sabiki out, every single hook gets caught on the way out, right at the end. I don't know if I have a defective model or just poor design, but it makes things pretty annoying, also, the whole sabiki rig doesn't even fit in the 7ft rod! 1 hook and my weight always hang out. The swivel can't seems to make its way through. This is all on a size 12 hooked rig.

Thanks in advance

pchen911 · 10-10-2011, 08:23 AM

Did you take off the plastic shrink wrap on the knob at the end?

10-10-2011, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by pchen911

Did you take off the plastic shrink wrap on the knob at the end?

There is none? Its getting caught on the inside.

ctfphoto · 10-10-2011, 09:46 AM

Just make a pvc one, they work fantastic at very little cost.

Handymansd · 10-10-2011, 09:48 AM

some times the plug in the end does not seat well and the hooks will hang up. I would see if he will change it out for you. Also, most shorter sabiki rods need to have the sabiki trimmed down a bit, just cut off enough so that the swivel ends up right at the opening at the base of the rod...besides 5-6 hooks can be too many and a real pain on a kayak when there are fish on all of them! I like to use no more than 4 hooks, and 2 is usually sufficient to get bait in a hurry. I also like to let the barbs rust off which makes "bouncing" them in the foot well the easiest release.

Kailolo · 10-10-2011, 05:56 PM

Not to hijack the thread, but ...
As a new Revo owner, former FnD owner, trying to deal with space-the final frontier of a Revo owner--I decided not to buy or carry a dedicated sabiki rod. Instead, I use the sabiki rig by clipping it to the hook (ideally the solid ring on a ringed hook) on either one of my 2 trolling rods, make sufficient bait, then unclip the rig and bait up the trolling rod.

Sabiki rig is kept in a zip lock (or velcro lure keeper) with the hooks embedded in a 2 inch piece of pipe insulation foam, so it can be placed anywhere on the deck or gunnel storage in case I want to make bait again.

Flatten the barbs with pliers to facilitate release.

I always cut a 6-hook sabiki rig into two 3-hook rigs, and then attach a snap or swivel to the cut end as needed.

I'm thinking of baiting them--wonder of small strip of Gulp would help? Hate to carry squid or fish parts.

pchen911 · 10-10-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Kailolo

Not to hijack the thread, but ...
As a new Revo owner, former FnD owner, trying to deal with space-the final frontier of a Revo owner--I decided not to buy or carry a dedicated sabiki rod. Instead, I use the sabiki rig by clipping it to the hook (ideally the solid ring on a ringed hook) on either one of my 2 trolling rods, make sufficient bait, then unclip the rig and bait up the trolling rod.

Sabiki rig is kept in a zip lock (or velcro lure keeper) with the hooks embedded in a 2 inch piece of pipe insulation foam, so it can be placed anywhere on the deck or gunnel storage in case I want to make bait again.

Flatten the barbs with pliers to facilitate release.

I always cut a 6-hook sabiki rig into two 3-hook rigs, and then attach a snap or swivel to the cut end as needed.

I'm thinking of baiting them--wonder of small strip of Gulp would help? Hate to carry squid or fish parts.

Tried the sabiki in a bag before.

The dang thing gets tangled up so easily and I end up spending a bunch of time trying to sort it out.

Not a bad idea as far as reducing your quiver by 1 rod though... especially if you only make bait once throughout the day. But if you are using a bait tube, it is very likely you'll be making bait on-and-off several times throughout the day.

Billy V · 10-10-2011, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Drake

Has anyone run into problems with the Charkbait rod? Whenever I let my sabiki out, every single hook gets caught on the way out, right at the end. I don't know if I have a defective model or just poor design, but it makes things pretty annoying, also, the whole sabiki rig doesn't even fit in the 7ft rod! 1 hook and my weight always hang out. The swivel can't seems to make its way through. This is all on a size 12 hooked rig.

Thanks in advance

There are two different size sabiki rods - one for the small sabiki hooks, and one for the larger sabiki hooks.

Which one do you have ? I bet you have the smaller rod and are using a #6 sabiki.

10-11-2011, 06:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy V

There are two different size sabiki rods - one for the small sabiki hooks, and one for the larger sabiki hooks.

Which one do you have ? I bet you have the smaller rod and are using a #6 sabiki.

Theyre size 12

Deamon · 10-11-2011, 09:12 AM

If you decide to reduce your rig down to three hooks and place that into a ziplock, the tangles are eliminated. Unibutter on the hooks makes a big difference for me...

blackcloud9 · 10-11-2011, 11:03 AM

One tip from my kayak seminars - I use a three-hook sabiki and when
storing this on my light bass rod, I connect the two upper hooks together
and hook the bottom hook on a guide or the reel and keep the line tight.

You can do the same with 5 or 7 hooks too.

As long as each hook is taught, and there are no loose hooks swinging
around, you will be fine w/o a "sabiki" rod (no doubt the gear stores all
LOVE to sell them to you though ... and, may promise you that they are
required kayak gear. )

Storage and recovery/reuse of longer sabiki strings by themselves is a
mess, and is why I use three hook strings.

Hope that helps.

silverbullet · 10-11-2011, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pchen911

Did you take off the plastic shrink wrap on the knob at the end?

PapaDave · 10-11-2011, 12:04 PM

I usually put a small peice of styrofoam on the hooks, which usually number 3-4. I tried a sabiki rod, great idea, but keep loosing the fish, too stiff I think, but not sure.

StinkyMatt · 10-11-2011, 01:01 PM

PAPA,

Thanks for the post about your stiff rod (wait, that didn't come out right)

Anyways, I used to use a "stiff" sabiki rod and watched numerous guys kick my ass while fishing for bait with traditional rods.

This last week I used a medium bass rod and absolutely loaded up on bait in NO time.

I don't know how much difference the rod makes, but it made a difference to me.

Elite Bait Catcher Club

pchen911 · 10-11-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by silverbullet

Yea... I did that.

PescadorPete · 10-12-2011, 07:32 PM

This make a pretty good sabiki hook keeper. No angles, no tangles. About a buck at Squidco.

10-09-2011, 10:05 PM	#1
Drake Guest Posts: n/a	Problem with Charkbait brand Sabiki rod? Has anyone run into problems with the Charkbait rod? Whenever I let my sabiki out, every single hook gets caught on the way out, right at the end. I don't know if I have a defective model or just poor design, but it makes things pretty annoying, also, the whole sabiki rig doesn't even fit in the 7ft rod! 1 hook and my weight always hang out. The swivel can't seems to make its way through. This is all on a size 12 hooked rig. Thanks in advance

10-10-2011, 09:48 AM	#5
Handymansd Ancient Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: On The Water Posts: 935	some times the plug in the end does not seat well and the hooks will hang up. I would see if he will change it out for you. Also, most shorter sabiki rods need to have the sabiki trimmed down a bit, just cut off enough so that the swivel ends up right at the opening at the base of the rod...besides 5-6 hooks can be too many and a real pain on a kayak when there are fish on all of them! I like to use no more than 4 hooks, and 2 is usually sufficient to get bait in a hurry. I also like to let the barbs rust off which makes "bouncing" them in the foot well the easiest release. __________________ All men are equal before fish. -Herbert Hoover

10-11-2011, 11:03 AM	#11
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Why have one? One tip from my kayak seminars - I use a three-hook sabiki and when storing this on my light bass rod, I connect the two upper hooks together and hook the bottom hook on a guide or the reel and keep the line tight. You can do the same with 5 or 7 hooks too. As long as each hook is taught, and there are no loose hooks swinging around, you will be fine w/o a "sabiki" rod (no doubt the gear stores all LOVE to sell them to you though ... and, may promise you that they are required kayak gear. ) Storage and recovery/reuse of longer sabiki strings by themselves is a mess, and is why I use three hook strings. Hope that helps.

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10-10-2011, 08:23 AM	#2
pchen911 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 218	Did you take off the plastic shrink wrap on the knob at the end?

10-10-2011, 09:46 AM	#4
ctfphoto Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 901	Just make a pvc one, they work fantastic at very little cost.

10-10-2011, 05:56 PM	#6
Kailolo Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 64	Sabiki Tricks Not to hijack the thread, but ... As a new Revo owner, former FnD owner, trying to deal with space-the final frontier of a Revo owner--I decided not to buy or carry a dedicated sabiki rod. Instead, I use the sabiki rig by clipping it to the hook (ideally the solid ring on a ringed hook) on either one of my 2 trolling rods, make sufficient bait, then unclip the rig and bait up the trolling rod. Sabiki rig is kept in a zip lock (or velcro lure keeper) with the hooks embedded in a 2 inch piece of pipe insulation foam, so it can be placed anywhere on the deck or gunnel storage in case I want to make bait again. Flatten the barbs with pliers to facilitate release. I always cut a 6-hook sabiki rig into two 3-hook rigs, and then attach a snap or swivel to the cut end as needed. I'm thinking of baiting them--wonder of small strip of Gulp would help? Hate to carry squid or fish parts.

10-11-2011, 09:12 AM	#10
Deamon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,972	If you decide to reduce your rig down to three hooks and place that into a ziplock, the tangles are eliminated. Unibutter on the hooks makes a big difference for me...

10-11-2011, 12:04 PM	#13
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,473	I usually put a small peice of styrofoam on the hooks, which usually number 3-4. I tried a sabiki rod, great idea, but keep loosing the fish, too stiff I think, but not sure.

10-11-2011, 01:01 PM	#14
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	PAPA, Thanks for the post about your stiff rod (wait, that didn't come out right) Anyways, I used to use a "stiff" sabiki rod and watched numerous guys kick my ass while fishing for bait with traditional rods. This last week I used a medium bass rod and absolutely loaded up on bait in NO time. I don't know how much difference the rod makes, but it made a difference to me. Elite Bait Catcher Club

10-12-2011, 07:32 PM	#16
PescadorPete Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Leucadia, CA Posts: 261	This make a pretty good sabiki hook keeper. No angles, no tangles. About a buck at Squidco.