Bug It Forward.. - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

wade · 10-02-2011, 05:10 PM

To much dismay of the LJ Mansion owner(s), we went out last night to hoop

&

.
I took Tman's advice and threw some dirt on the ol' shoulder and paddled our arses off to PB.
Apparently many people within this special zip code,think they own more than their fair share.

My predictions for the nights crawl were only off by 30+ minutes to be precise.
#1's First pull of the night yields two keepers, but the back of their carapaces where one would measure, is cracked right off. Back in the drink..

After setting our spread and determining the nights crawl direction, I pull up what appears to be a slashed net?!?
Then about thirty minutes later, one of the Soldiers confirms my suspicions with his set getting slashed also.
(Confirmation of a blue light searching diver from one of the adjacent mansions, presumably.)
Then about another 45 minutes go buy, and I hear a huge splash, and notice one of us suddenly gets unexplainably & completely capsized!?...This happened exactly right in front of the #1 GPS drop.

This section of reef has produced consistently every single trip for the past several years.
I am in need of your help now to extract every last legal bug from it now that my shoulder is d.o.n.e..
If you search out the #3-4 area, and its adjacent volcanos, you will find one lobster specifically, that has a chest as fat as a basketball. My diver buddy left him alone for one of you to discover..The key I have found, is to try and sneak in as shallow as possible, and pull a "Ryan", but on a kayak. It seems the commercials stop around this range of drops, as to of course not get grounded. In the 14'-28' was gold last night. Crawl started thick right at 8pm sharp.
One buddy was learning the "ropes", and was in a section far off from us 40-50+. I yelled several times to come work closer to us, but I guess he didnt hear, and subsequently got bupkis. Long story and no shorts, I try and implement the "Bug It Forward" whenever applicable. I will always give a buddie at least one of my sweet bugs for their hard efforts if they should come up empty traps..

the lucky few who saved the #'s go get em.....

YakMedic · 10-02-2011, 05:26 PM

Simply amazing how some people think they own the ocean.
I like your style Wade

ryan111 · 10-02-2011, 05:44 PM

good report wade

h2ofishfo · 10-02-2011, 07:00 PM

curios to know how u knew he lived there did he have a house payment receipt hanging out his wet suit??

wade · 10-02-2011, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h2ofishfo

curios to know how u knew he lived there did he have a house payment receipt hanging out his wet suit??

I presume this, from all the extra efforts last night to thwart us from their "front yard"..

Regor · 10-02-2011, 07:18 PM

Great to hear about the bugs, sorry to hear about the shoulder.

Tman · 10-02-2011, 08:01 PM

Ha ha, I think I know where you were, at least the general vicinity...

Bug boats can't get in tight because of the tight reef formation. Prop damage.

And I most definitely know about the spotlight casas...

1st time in eons I missed opening night...wish you woulda told me you were heading S...

We are gonna hit it in a couple weeks, no yak needed.

Whizz Bang · 10-02-2011, 08:23 PM

Wade, I am a little confused. Are you saying you had a diver in the water, slashing your nets and capsizing one of your friends? On scuba or free diving? Why is the Coast Guard not looking for him right now?

wade · 10-02-2011, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whizz Bang

Wade, I am a little confused. Are you saying you had a diver in the water, slashing your nets and capsizing one of your friends? On scuba or free diving? Why is the Coast Guard not looking for him right now?

That is exactly what I am saying.
I would guess to say he was a very fast free diver, scuba or he had a crazy rebreather?..

The Kid · 10-02-2011, 09:51 PM

They knew Wade was out there and found his lobster hoops. Time to switch out your yak they know the green monster to well.

Whizz Bang · 10-02-2011, 10:00 PM

I am sold, where is the best place to launch for this reef?

mazilla · 10-03-2011, 07:24 AM

If there is a diver there doing this crap somebody should wait for him/her on shore and place them under citizens arrest...or just stomp the shit out of them, either or.

sdfisher · 10-03-2011, 07:50 AM

drop a few seal bombs and see how fast they stop messing with your gear

Limits · 10-03-2011, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mazilla

If there is a diver there doing this crap somebody should wait for him/her on shore and place them under citizens arrest...or just stomp the shit out of them, either or.

I usually bring a rod to fish with between soaks.

I would start casting a jig and randomly start 'setting the hook'.

Or, if I wanted to just let him know I'm aware that he's around...cast a heavy sinker in the general direction.

wiredantz · 10-03-2011, 07:54 AM

that just messed up. I hope they get this guy.

Darkstar · 10-03-2011, 08:30 AM

Great Post, i used to find Lobsters in that area over 20 years ago, cant believe someone is slashing nets there......we should have a kayak armanda formed up for a night run to the area

tight lines · 10-03-2011, 08:34 AM

some people can just be such A$$h@les.

Rock Hopper · 10-03-2011, 10:59 AM

Serious question - Not trying to be a dick....but why do you guys bash the hell out of people who post reports about fast moving YT, then post GPS coordinates for everyone to go wipe out slow moving, slow reproducing bugs?

Is it strictly to piss off the local mansion owners?

blackcloud9 · 10-03-2011, 11:48 AM

Congrats on the legals.

"Slashed nets?"

I guarantee the holes in your nets were caused by
moray eels - the shallow reefs in that area are filthy with them. My kids
play with them in the tidepools all the time. Many times they do not chew
throught he thicker 'Promar' netting (so I have to get them out at the
surface). Its the price you pay for being tight to the rocks and not out on
the sand flats. Small zip ties work well for net repair, I always have a
bunch on the yak and repair as I see them happen. It happens. My older
nets are filthy with zip tie repairs, from the last five-plus years.

Btw, 30' is fishing very deep for this early in the season, with little swell
so far. The bugs will be moving out there further after all the stormy
turmoil coming on Wed-Thursday this week though!

Turning on the two spotlights at Vietors was probably to see what all the
screaming was about. Somebody was sure sceaming happy at their legal
bug(s) for sure. Holy cow.

Let me assure you, there were no "fast free divers" messing with you, at
all. The visibility was 3 ft with soupy red tide, and there were only three
divers all night, further north off Palomar. Certainly not "divers from
those mansions". Most of the people that live along the cliffs are not
'watermen' to say the least.

Thanks for the map those look like some good spots. LOL. Warning to all:
hooping boilers in 10-15' of water, you better do it on a very FLAT night,
with no waves. Everyone should remember that this is challenging terrain
due to "shallow reefs and sneaker sets". This area will all likely be closed
in the MLPA process soon.

P.S. this is sure a long paddle from wherever you launched ... Marine St?
PSS Rock Hopper, I agree with your sentiment, but seriously the
commercial traps hammer this area of virtually ALL legals each year
anyway. The bug population remains strong despite this due to the regs,
and, is also why we do not need an MPA closure. DFG watches kayaks
with night vision all the time, and you will get checked when you land.

wade · 10-03-2011, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rock Hopper

Serious question - Not trying to be a dick....but why do you guys bash the hell out of people who post reports about fast moving YT, then post GPS coordinates for everyone to go wipe out slow moving, slow reproducing bugs? Is it strictly to piss off the local mansion owners?

No.
My golden waypoints are specifically to piss off the territorial diver(s), who also cut my traps & cut my buddies traps and also flipped us while hooping in the open ocean.

For the record, I don't give grief for anyones report "unless" your announcing a candy explosion on the first day. I have personally given numerous daily & timely quality reports throughout the years............................

10-02-2011, 08:01 PM	#7
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Ha ha, I think I know where you were, at least the general vicinity... Bug boats can't get in tight because of the tight reef formation. Prop damage. And I most definitely know about the spotlight casas... 1st time in eons I missed opening night...wish you woulda told me you were heading S... We are gonna hit it in a couple weeks, no yak needed. __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

10-03-2011, 07:54 AM	#15
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	that just messed up. I hope they get this guy. __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

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10-02-2011, 05:10 PM	#1
wade Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oceanside Posts: 1,214	Bug It Forward.. To much dismay of the LJ Mansion owner(s), we went out last night to hoop & . I took Tman's advice and threw some dirt on the ol' shoulder and paddled our arses off to PB. Apparently many people within this special zip code,think they own more than their fair share. My predictions for the nights crawl were only off by 30+ minutes to be precise. #1's First pull of the night yields two keepers, but the back of their carapaces where one would measure, is cracked right off. Back in the drink.. After setting our spread and determining the nights crawl direction, I pull up what appears to be a slashed net?!? Then about thirty minutes later, one of the Soldiers confirms my suspicions with his set getting slashed also. (Confirmation of a blue light searching diver from one of the adjacent mansions, presumably.) Then about another 45 minutes go buy, and I hear a huge splash, and notice one of us suddenly gets unexplainably & completely capsized!?...This happened exactly right in front of the #1 GPS drop. This section of reef has produced consistently every single trip for the past several years. I am in need of your help now to extract every last legal bug from it now that my shoulder is d.o.n.e.. If you search out the #3-4 area, and its adjacent volcanos, you will find one lobster specifically, that has a chest as fat as a basketball. My diver buddy left him alone for one of you to discover..The key I have found, is to try and sneak in as shallow as possible, and pull a "Ryan", but on a kayak. It seems the commercials stop around this range of drops, as to of course not get grounded. In the 14'-28' was gold last night. Crawl started thick right at 8pm sharp. One buddy was learning the "ropes", and was in a section far off from us 40-50+. I yelled several times to come work closer to us, but I guess he didnt hear, and subsequently got bupkis. Long story and no shorts, I try and implement the "Bug It Forward" whenever applicable. I will always give a buddie at least one of my sweet bugs for their hard efforts if they should come up empty traps.. the lucky few who saved the #'s go get em..... __________________ Last edited by wade; 10-06-2011 at 01:18 PM.

10-02-2011, 05:26 PM	#2
YakMedic Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Wrightwood Posts: 623	Simply amazing how some people think they own the ocean. I like your style Wade

10-02-2011, 05:44 PM	#3
ryan111 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: la jolla CA Posts: 146	good report wade __________________

10-02-2011, 07:00 PM	#4
h2ofishfo Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Santee Posts: 821	curios to know how u knew he lived there did he have a house payment receipt hanging out his wet suit??

10-02-2011, 07:18 PM	#6
Regor Greg Join Date: May 2010 Location: Chula Vista, ca Posts: 509	Great to hear about the bugs, sorry to hear about the shoulder.

10-02-2011, 08:23 PM	#8
Whizz Bang Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 396	Wade, I am a little confused. Are you saying you had a diver in the water, slashing your nets and capsizing one of your friends? On scuba or free diving? Why is the Coast Guard not looking for him right now?

10-02-2011, 09:51 PM	#10
The Kid Loves Surface Irons Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 455	They knew Wade was out there and found his lobster hoops. Time to switch out your yak they know the green monster to well.

10-02-2011, 10:00 PM	#11
Whizz Bang Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 396	I am sold, where is the best place to launch for this reef?

10-03-2011, 07:24 AM	#12
mazilla advocatus diaboli Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 154	If there is a diver there doing this crap somebody should wait for him/her on shore and place them under citizens arrest...or just stomp the shit out of them, either or.

10-03-2011, 07:50 AM	#13
sdfisher Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 179	drop a few seal bombs and see how fast they stop messing with your gear

10-03-2011, 08:30 AM	#16
Darkstar Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: SDSU area Posts: 131	Great Post, i used to find Lobsters in that area over 20 years ago, cant believe someone is slashing nets there......we should have a kayak armanda formed up for a night run to the area

10-03-2011, 08:34 AM	#17
tight lines Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: North County Posts: 62	some people can just be such A$$h@les.

10-03-2011, 10:59 AM	#18
Rock Hopper Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 62	Serious question - Not trying to be a dick....but why do you guys bash the hell out of people who post reports about fast moving YT, then post GPS coordinates for everyone to go wipe out slow moving, slow reproducing bugs? Is it strictly to piss off the local mansion owners?

10-03-2011, 11:48 AM	#19
blackcloud9 Kayaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Big Rock, WindanSea, La Jolla Posts: 413	Congrats on the legals. "Slashed nets?" I guarantee the holes in your nets were caused by moray eels - the shallow reefs in that area are filthy with them. My kids play with them in the tidepools all the time. Many times they do not chew throught he thicker 'Promar' netting (so I have to get them out at the surface). Its the price you pay for being tight to the rocks and not out on the sand flats. Small zip ties work well for net repair, I always have a bunch on the yak and repair as I see them happen. It happens. My older nets are filthy with zip tie repairs, from the last five-plus years. Btw, 30' is fishing very deep for this early in the season, with little swell so far. The bugs will be moving out there further after all the stormy turmoil coming on Wed-Thursday this week though! Turning on the two spotlights at Vietors was probably to see what all the screaming was about. Somebody was sure sceaming happy at their legal bug(s) for sure. Holy cow. Let me assure you, there were no "fast free divers" messing with you, at all. The visibility was 3 ft with soupy red tide, and there were only three divers all night, further north off Palomar. Certainly not "divers from those mansions". Most of the people that live along the cliffs are not 'watermen' to say the least. Thanks for the map those look like some good spots. LOL. Warning to all: hooping boilers in 10-15' of water, you better do it on a very FLAT night, with no waves. Everyone should remember that this is challenging terrain due to "shallow reefs and sneaker sets". This area will all likely be closed in the MLPA process soon. P.S. this is sure a long paddle from wherever you launched ... Marine St? PSS Rock Hopper, I agree with your sentiment, but seriously the commercial traps hammer this area of virtually ALL legals each year anyway. The bug population remains strong despite this due to the regs, and, is also why we do not need an MPA closure. DFG watches kayaks with night vision all the time, and you will get checked when you land.