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Old 06-15-2016, 07:03 PM   #41
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Went to dollar tree and got 50 noodles for the pa 17t



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Old 06-15-2016, 08:09 PM   #42
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Just in case you run into 50 golden girls that want to do water aerobics?
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Old 06-15-2016, 08:30 PM   #43
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Old 06-15-2016, 09:47 PM   #44
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wow, thanks for sharing
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Old 06-16-2016, 06:35 AM   #45
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Went to dollar tree and got 50 noodles for the pa 17t



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That's just crazy! "If you can afford it" , you could've just bought a skiff for that price, and have room for three people!!

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Old 06-16-2016, 07:11 AM   #46
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This dude is just weird as hell!!!!!!!! I wouldnt even feel safe kayak next to him, hes got some weird juju. I mean seriously 50 noodles?? I got 4 in my Outback along with the foam Hobie puts in from the get go and im sure she wont sink.

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Old 06-16-2016, 08:56 AM   #47
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I don't think 50 is necessary, but whatever floats your boat.

Yes, our kayaks are heavy on land but the material they are made of is closer to neutral buoyancy that a rock or lead sinker. They will sink if filled with water unless there is supplemental buoyancy. A couple noodles should suffice.

I have also thought about one of those canned airhorns. It would be useful for signaling but I am thinking that it could also be used to displace water. If the kayak is semi- or fully-filled with water and keel-up in the water, you could deploy the airhorn inside the inverted hull. The compressed air released would displace the water in the essentially sealed environment, forcing it out through the hatches. Think of it as an inverted glass filled with water partially elevated out of a sink of water, then blowing bubbles through a bent straw into the glass from underneath. You would not be able to get all the water out but should be able to displace enough to pump out the rest once it is flipped right side up.

Could also used compressed air canisters that are used for cleaning computer keyboards and inflating car tires.
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:46 AM   #48
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Try This

Tether your PA17 to this, buoyancy problem solved
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Tether your PA17 to this, buoyancy problem solved

i think i should be able to get airborne with that.







If all else fails ill make a raft to pull my kayak!
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:53 AM   #50
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Lmao just ride the duck strap some rod holders on that B and take it to county line

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Old 06-16-2016, 10:20 AM   #51
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Fish and game might call up the DEA when they look inside that hull looks suspicious.... also, just my theory but wouldn't the kayak ride higher? Making you more vulnerable to getting flipped by choppy conditions? But since they're not In the water yet it probably shouldn't affect the ride. Go out and report back 😃

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Old 06-16-2016, 10:59 AM   #52
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Old 06-16-2016, 02:03 PM   #53
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also, just my theory but wouldn't the kayak ride higher? Making you more vulnerable to getting flipped by choppy conditions? But since they're not In the water yet it probably shouldn't affect the ride. Go out and report back ��

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If anything the kayak would ride slightly, but barely, lower. The kayak and its contents must displace a volume of water equal in weight. The addition of the noodles would add to the weight of the assembly with change to the exterior configuration of the body displacing the water.

Now, if you placed noodles UNDERNEATH the kayak instead of INSIDE, then the noodles would have net buoyancy due to their volume displacing the water, which weighs more per unit volume. The kayak would be lifted to the point that less water is displaced by the hull in the amount almost equal to the total volume of the noodle.

The reason for putting the noodle inside your kayak for safety is, if the hull fills with water, the kayak hull is no longer displacing the water beyond the volume actually occupied by plastic. The noodle inside the hull takes over displacing a smaller volume of water than the hull, but enough to keep the kayak from heading to the bottom.

think of it this way, if you are in a swimming pool and have a pool noodle, do you float higher when you hold the noodle over your head? No, because it is not displacing any water BUT it is contributing a small amount to the "assembly" of your body and the noodle. When you sit on the noodle it is submerged. The weight of the assembly has not changed, but WHAT is displacing the water HAS changed.

Sorry for the long-winded answer, but this is a pretty common misconception and the answer is not necessarily intuitive.
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How many pool noodles do I need in my hull to make my kayak into a hovercraft?
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If anything the kayak would ride slightly, but barely, lower. The kayak and its contents must displace a volume of water equal in weight. The addition of the noodles would add to the weight of the assembly with change to the exterior configuration of the body displacing the water.

Now, if you placed noodles UNDERNEATH the kayak instead of INSIDE, then the noodles would have net buoyancy due to their volume displacing the water, which weighs more per unit volume. The kayak would be lifted to the point that less water is displaced by the hull in the amount almost equal to the total volume of the noodle.

The reason for putting the noodle inside your kayak for safety is, if the hull fills with water, the kayak hull is no longer displacing the water beyond the volume actually occupied by plastic. The noodle inside the hull takes over displacing a smaller volume of water than the hull, but enough to keep the kayak from heading to the bottom.

think of it this way, if you are in a swimming pool and have a pool noodle, do you float higher when you hold the noodle over your head? No, because it is not displacing any water BUT it is contributing a small amount to the "assembly" of your body and the noodle. When you sit on the noodle it is submerged. The weight of the assembly has not changed, but WHAT is displacing the water HAS changed.

Sorry for the long-winded answer, but this is a pretty common misconception and the answer is not necessarily intuitive.
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Old 06-16-2016, 05:03 PM   #57
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Holy cow Bill Nye! Nice science report.

In regards to science, I'm still trying to figure out this whole flat vs globe earth


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the earth has to be flat, otherwise our kayaks would keep trying to slide to the bottom and we could never get back to shore. It's science dude
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the earth has to be flat, otherwise our kayaks would keep trying to slide to the bottom and we could never get back to shore. It's science dude
that's awesome! I agree, it looks flat to me!!

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Holy cow Bill Nye! Nice science report.

In regards to science, I'm still trying to figure out this whole flat vs globe earth


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