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Old 01-28-2015, 07:47 PM   #41
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This is a very interesting quote by Mr Jorluivil.

I guess he did learned something from Josh after all.



http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ad.php?p=81967

Wow this is getting REALLY GOOOD!!!!
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Wow this is getting REALLY GOOOD!!!!

And to think that I caught all of my fish without a guide at my side.
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Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.
Lol


There you go. Instant expert. just hire a guide.
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Old 01-28-2015, 08:05 PM   #44
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Yawn

I have a lot respect towards Greg Andrew and big Tony. Both can easily be fishing guides. You're lucky you have them as friends. stop being such a pompous and give them some PROPS!
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Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.
Anti guide sentiment? Now anyone who decides not to use a guide is a bad guy? Grow up. You're blowing this up for one reason and one reason only, you're a client of Josh. I have a mortgage payment, a college bill that will not be paid off for many years and I'm someone who prefers to do things on his own, if you have the money to hire him have fun with it. I understand why you stand by the guides and defend them, because you use their services, ain't nothing wrong with that. Do you know why I drink coca cola products? Because I work for them. Would it make any sense for me to bash them? Stop for a minute and understand that contrary to what you're saying my comments weren't meant to downplay anyone, I can assure you that Josh will not lose clients because of my comments, this whole thread is free publicity for him. Unfortunately, you've taken my comments and twisted them to make me and all of the other anti-guide people look like we're bashing someone, I don't care who uses him/them. I stand by what I said, its more rewarding when you do it yourself and if you think otherwise I could care less. If you want to pay someone to guide you around have fun with it.

You should come fish with use at Irvine Lake this weekend, maybe you care share all of that knowledge.
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I have a lot respect towards Greg Andrew and big Tony. Both can easily be fishing guides. You're lucky you have them as friends. stop being such a pompous and give them some PROPS!
I have no clue who those guys are
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Good night man....enough said.
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Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.
I guess it's easy to get up on a pedestal when someone gives you a ladder.
Now with that said you have to ask yourself... did I actually earn the right to sit up there and judge or did I just buy my seat?
Also, if you can hear me way up there I'd like to ask you a question. What do you think constitutes a "trophy" fish? Me personally, I think a "trophy" is any fish that I catch that I'm proud of regardless of how big it is and who is taking the picture.
Let's get something straight. I think guides are awesome. I wish I could make money while fishing and sharing the sport I love. Kevin, Josh, Jim, Wade etc. are pros. They have a knowledge and ability to fish like most of us want to fish.
Do you really think your on their level?
I'm not sure but I don't believe that you can actually buy membership into that club.
Ya gotta earn that "trophy" ego!
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I guess it's easy to get up on a pedestal when someone gives you a ladder.
Now with that said you have to ask yourself... did I actually earn the right to sit up there and judge or did I just buy my seat?
Also, if you can hear me way up there I'd like to ask you a question. What do you think constitutes a "trophy" fish? Me personally, I think a "trophy" is any fish that I catch that I'm proud of regardless of how big it is and who is taking the picture.
Let's get something straight. I think guides are awesome. I wish I could make money while fishing and sharing the sport I love. Kevin, Josh, Jim, Wade etc. are pros. They have a knowledge and ability to fish like most of us want to fish.
Do you really think your on their level?
I'm not sure but I don't believe that you can actually buy membership into that club.
Ya gotta earn that "trophy" ego!
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Irvine is gonna be FUN!!!!!!
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Just to clarify one thing......
When I mentioned Jim in my last post I meant Jim Sammons not that Deamon guy cause that Jim can't fish worth sh#t.
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Just to clarify one thing......
When I mentioned Jim in my last post I meant Jim Sammons not that Deamon guy cause that Jim can't fish worth sh#t.
Oh...it's on again now.

All of my food this weekend is going to make ALL OF YOU
I'm throwing the baby out with the bath water and nailing anyone who shows up.
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Gabe-man, you've been useless to me you sum bitch. Start passing me your damn Friday fish reports (I'll even pay money for good detail) or I'll keep on your arse!
Jim

Jim, quit your day job and become a fishing guide. Your fishing reports make do this
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My thoughts

I know I'll get blasted but:

A guide to me seems like someone helping you solve a puzzle: You solve the puzzle and get the reward but you didn't do it on your own.

And a lot has to do with money. There are rich, poor, middle class kayak fisherman and all in between. Is it worth $100-$200 for someone to guide you for a day? If you only spent $300 on a kayak and fishing gear to get started then a guide probably isn't ideal. If you start with buying a Hobie Pro Angler and only fish on the weekends it's priceless.

Different strokes for different folks!!
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Oh...it's on again now.

All of my food this weekend is going to make ALL OF YOU
I'm throwing the baby out with the bath water and nailing anyone who shows up.
When you say "nailing" do you mean that in a sexual way?
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When you say "nailing" do you mean that in a sexual way?
Of course he does silly!
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It sounds like it would be a fun part-time gig but I'm pretty sure just getting some guys who want to do some guiding won't fly, especially here in nanny-regulated California.

Like PapaDave touched on, I'd bet you need to use properly licensed guides which means they have a CA business license, proper liability insurance and surety bond, a CA guide license, and whatever other special things like CPR/Rescue training certs that the state may require for a hunting/fishing guide. If they do any guiding on a motorized vessel they would probably also need a commercial Coast Guard license.

You should ask a licensed guide about the requirements.
Hi AlanW,

You bring up a lot of good points. I should have been a little more thorough. I can send you a PM and describe in greater detail, but all the things you mentioned are part of my platform (CA Guide License, bonding, insurance, etc.).

I appreciate the feedback.

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Irvine is gonna be FUN!!!!!!
Let's keep jacking Moby's thread...it's a four page thread Moby, congrats!

If you go to Irvine this weekend...you'll be talked about, insulted and bashed.

but if you do not go to Irvine...you'll really be talked about, insulted and bashed...
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Saying that a guide makes fishing less rewarding? You didn't mention them... just their business.


Whatever. I have just never understood the anti guide sentiment from some people, and have always found it funny that this attitude comes from people who rarely catch trophy fish.
Man, still waiting to catch that trophy fish. Maybe I should hit up a guide any suggestions?
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