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07-06-2014, 08:56 PM | #1 |
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ticket for forgetting my fishing license NPH
Start my day packing n getting stuff ready for fishing. Drop the baby off at my mom by 6am and finally got on the water by 8am. Loading the PA14 is always hard not having enough gears and with all that space you want to bring everything to prepare your day for any species.
Well I got out to the water and my bait tank battery isn't charge at all even when I left it plugging all night. Now my fish finder is acting up, and wouldnt turn due to some poor connection with the cable. So I was like ok, don't need it that much since my buddies had fish finders and bait tank I'm still cool. It was hard making bait and nothing was really biting the whole day. So I drop a live mackerel and troll near the bait barge while DFG approach me. They then ask for my fishing license and I look at my center storage and said "shit i must have left it in my car." I asked, can i go get since my car is near? They said nope, and bam my rod gets a bite and the DFG said to reel it in. What do you know a legal halibut. Since I don't have my license on me, they released my halibut, and handed me a ticket. Mad n frustrated, but they doing a good job keeping everyone on check. So I rush over and got to my car and grabbed my fishing license to try for another halibut. But no luck. The one day I forget my fishing license I get cited. And DFG looks at me and say I'm sure you have your license since your kayak looks expensive and with all them gears but since you don't have it on you laws are laws. Can't argue, so I signed and said have a good day! |
07-06-2014, 09:16 PM | #2 |
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the bright side....you didn't leave the baby in the car!
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07-06-2014, 09:24 PM | #3 |
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My license is vacuum sealed
Its in the center hatch of my PA In the mesh pocket that is mounted right under the door In a place Where I'll never forget it
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07-06-2014, 09:33 PM | #4 |
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They are a bunch of zealots, can't believe they cited you.
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07-06-2014, 10:57 PM | #5 |
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Sucks they issued you a ticket. Back when licenses were carbon copies, I used to keep the copy in my wallet. It saved my ass from a citation one time when I forgot my license while surf fishing malibu. DFG said it wasn't technically a license but it was proof that I had one so she cut me a break.
BTW I wish the DFG can find out if you have a fishing license by running your drivers license. Don't they swipe that info in when you purchase one? |
07-06-2014, 11:20 PM | #6 |
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So I know not having a fishing license vs. not having one on you are totally different and obviously the charges will end up being different. How much will that mistake cost u. I have left my license at home, before but have always opted to turn around and go get it. I'm just curious as to how much not having your license on u will end up costing.
Sucks about the legal. If u wouldn't have gotten approached, that butt would have never bit.
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07-06-2014, 11:33 PM | #7 |
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Fight
You should go to court and fight it especially you have a lic. They can look it up with your driver lic. Two years ago I got a $860 ticket up in big bear for fishing with no lic. The officer try to look for my lic. By my driver lic. But couldn't find one because I forgot to buy one. I took a day of work drove up to big bear the judge dismissed the ticket and I pay $25 processing fee. Good luck.
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07-07-2014, 04:59 AM | #8 |
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We all know the real reason that fishing licenses are not connected to DL right?
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07-07-2014, 06:49 AM | #9 |
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Damn, what ass holes. I saw them checking a bunch of people in skiffs. Most those people in those skiffs don't know spotted bass from Halibut, let alone the regulations. I was just south of the barge, but they never came to check mine.
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07-07-2014, 07:54 AM | #10 |
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Lol suks when they have to do their job
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07-07-2014, 01:02 PM | #11 |
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Yeah some job, just reminds you how free we really ARE NOT in this country! Pay the tax to fish ( aka fishing license), or get fined! It's just a way to justify more government jobs!
Or fish the pier for free and 99 % of those people take whatever they want home legal or not, they don't care. It's just upsetting seeing a legit fishermen, who made a simple mistake of forgetting it in his car and he gets screwed.
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07-07-2014, 01:44 PM | #12 | |
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I hear Cuba has awesome fishing
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07-07-2014, 09:12 AM | #13 |
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+1 agree!
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07-07-2014, 10:26 AM | #14 |
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Go to court. Show the judge you had a license at the time of the incident, just not in your possession. Judge may dismiss case or reduce fine.
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07-07-2014, 12:37 PM | #15 |
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Sucks you'll have to pay a fine but as jorge posted the law says to "have it in your immidiate possession while fishing". As soon as I buy my new one I put it in the inside pastic pocket of my tackle bag. That way anytime I go fishing with or without the kayak that license is with me and also not exposed to the sun or it will turn black same as a hunting license. The good thing is it shouldn't cost you much when you show proof of the license. The reason they check is because there are a lot of people who don't buy a license. The thing I wished is when they catch those people is that they could have the proof immidiately available so they would confiscate all their gear plus give them a ticket requiring court apperance. The DFG guys are just doing their job and hopefully catching all the jerks that are fishing illegally or poching.
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07-07-2014, 10:08 PM | #16 |
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If you have the time it can be worth it going to court. I made a careless mistake and received a violation for over $500 (lobster was just legal when I measured otw but shrunk 1/32" when DF&G measured it!). It took me 3 1/2hrs to get before a judge and plead "no contest" (which is the same as "guilty" but sounds cooler). Judge charged me a fine/court cost of $125. I figured I made about $100 an hour for time spent. Good luck.
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07-09-2014, 02:50 PM | #17 |
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Am I too late to make popcorn??? Damit...
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07-09-2014, 02:54 PM | #18 |
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07-10-2014, 08:59 AM | #19 |
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A guy goes fishing on his boat early in the morning and returns in the afternoon. He leaves his tackle box rod and reel in the boat and goes and inside for the day. His wife decides to take the boat out and read a book on the water. Half an hour later a male DFG officer pulls up to her in the boat and asks to see her fishing license, she says ” I don’t fish therefore I don’t have a fishing license , I’m reading a book” the officer reply’s” you have all the proper gear for fishing and no license, if you can’t show me a license I’m going to arrest you and impound the boat.” The woman responds saying “after you arrest me and we get to the station I’m going to tell everyone that you raped me” to which the officer replied” why would you say that?” then she said “because you have all the proper equipment.”
While you may have nothing to hide you still need to be mindful of your rights and the regulations. I have been stopped by the DFW, Harbor patrol / Sheriff, Coast Guard, and even the lifeguard on both the Kayak and boat. Every time I have had all my docs together to show. I was stopped last week while fishing with my son by the Harbor patrol, the officer not only checked our catch and paper work but also did a vessel inspection, while we had nothing to hide, I still asked him questions after he was done about why he was checking our catch as he’s not a DFW officer. He simply said while he was checking to see if my son had the proper life vest he noticed our catch and though it look like we were over our limit and while he is not a DFW he still can call them and detain us until they arrive. Since I had the DFW reg book with me to show him and after he counted the fish he said good by and good luck. He gave my son a bunch of stickers and shook both of our hands. They are there to ensure not only the regulations but to keep us safe. Be respectful, keep your $hit straight and follow the rules and be aware of the situation and you will be fine.
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07-07-2014, 09:47 AM | #20 | |
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If you get pulled over by a police officer and you dont have your license the police officer can look up your license. However, there is a really good chance you will get a ticket for driving without a license. How willl going fight that one in court?
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