Launch - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Rufus · 01-07-2016, 07:44 PM

If I didn't know any better I'd say it was a box culvert in the desert that got flooded out.

But it's not. Lol!

Thinking back to high school in the late 60s, I think this is the 5th time it's been beat by the weather.

DanaPT · 01-07-2016, 07:57 PM

I call bs. Must be a hot bite and the lj locals are messing with us.

FISH11 · 01-07-2016, 08:16 PM

Last week after one of the latest King Tides the drop to the sand at the end of the road was 15" to 24" and solid concrete. I guess that it was only that thick at the end for a short distance. Once the waves got under that, it was easy to undermine the street where the concrete is not as thick, as witnessed in the pictures. I think it would be hard to make any kind of end that would not break, unless it was 10' deep into the sand and had multiple footing that deep running a good 50' up the street about 4' apart and then the street on top, with concrete about 20" thick. The answer is "that's not going to happen". They will just fill it in and it will last till the next crazy king tide storm that happen every few years.

jorluivil · 01-07-2016, 08:48 PM

My cousin Felipe said that him and his two two compadres can have new concrete laid by Sunday, he also said he'd guarantee the work for at 5years.

Cost: 36 pack of budweiser

Silbaugh4liberty · 01-08-2016, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GregAndrew

They have been coming up with wrong solutions for the end of the street for as long as i have been kayaking. I think it is a job requirement.

I don't doubt that! Everytime I meet with a City that want's to do some upgrades, after they see the quotes the projects get put on hold! Everyone want's upgrades, but nobody wants to spend the money.

taggermike · 01-08-2016, 04:26 PM

Pour a couple dump truck loads of sand on top, pack it down, and your good to go. Just repeat after every storm. So the sand starts 40' closer than it used to.
Mike

FISH11 · 01-08-2016, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by taggermike

Pour a couple dump truck loads of sand on top, pack it down, and your good to go. Just repeat after every storm. So the sand starts 40' closer than it used to.
Mike

That's pretty much how they could fix it and not keep having repeated problems. Just take out the concrete on 1/3 of the block, just keep the side walks and the sand would not get washed away and it would be easier to just regrade the sand after bad storms, because it would not have washed it all away.

jorluivil · 01-08-2016, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by FISH11

That's pretty much how they could fix it and not keep having repeated problems. Just take out the concrete on 1/3 of the block, just keep the side walks and the sand would not get washed away and it would be easier to just regrade the sand after bad storms, because it would not have washed it all away.

That will work if this is the smallest storm we're expecting. However, if the storms get any bigger I'm sure it won't be the street they'll have to worry about

FISH11 · 01-08-2016, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jorluivil

That will work if this is the smallest storm we're expecting. However, if the storms get any bigger I'm sure it won't be the street they'll have to worry about

Than we would be launching from the monument at top of Mount Soledad, then again if the water was that high. It would be Soledad Island we would be visiting or more correctly " Isla Soledad".

monstahfish · 01-09-2016, 09:03 AM

They ought to build a 4 foot deep concrete footing at the end of the road with a retractable barrier or leave a k-rail on the edge of the road that can be moved into place during a storm. This would make it basically an extension of the sea wall during these events.

Jimmyz123 · 01-09-2016, 09:05 AM

KUSI just showed a live shot of the launch and it's worse than the picture that I posted. Never underestimate the power of the ocean and mother nature.

igotpron · 01-09-2016, 10:43 AM

Sooooooooooo.?? 4x4 required now?

Murray · 01-09-2016, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by igotpron

Sooooooooooo.?? 4x4 required now?

Wheels

Rambo · 01-13-2016, 01:48 PM

Finally some work in progress by developers.

Zed · 01-13-2016, 02:33 PM

New strip mall?

Harry Hill · 01-13-2016, 02:36 PM

Eventually everything yields to the power of water. I worked in the water industry for 30 years and saw it take out giant concrete pours. Just fix it for right now because you can't throw enough money at it to make it last forever.

igotpron · 01-13-2016, 04:52 PM

Is there any spot you can wheel straight down and avoid steps? If I don't have to drag my pro angler down steps that would be awesome.

YakDout · 01-13-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by igotpron

Is there any spot you can wheel straight down and avoid steps? If I don't have to drag my pro angler down steps that would be awesome.

Not anywhere close that I know of

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maquinapescado · 01-13-2016, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by igotpron

Is there any spot you can wheel straight down and avoid steps? If I don't have to drag my pro angler down steps that would be awesome.

Bring a piece of plywood for them stairs.......make you a hero.

igotpron · 01-13-2016, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by brian

Bring a piece of plywood for them stairs.......make you a hero.

I was already thinking the same thing. It's only 3 steps. Or just bring a shovel and make a sand ramp!! Wouldn't take more then a couple minutes to fill the stairs, and no ones going to tell me no at 6am!

01-07-2016, 08:16 PM	#23
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	Last week after one of the latest King Tides the drop to the sand at the end of the road was 15" to 24" and solid concrete. I guess that it was only that thick at the end for a short distance. Once the waves got under that, it was easy to undermine the street where the concrete is not as thick, as witnessed in the pictures. I think it would be hard to make any kind of end that would not break, unless it was 10' deep into the sand and had multiple footing that deep running a good 50' up the street about 4' apart and then the street on top, with concrete about 20" thick. The answer is "that's not going to happen". They will just fill it in and it will last till the next crazy king tide storm that happen every few years. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

01-07-2016, 08:48 PM	#24
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	My cousin Felipe said that him and his two two compadres can have new concrete laid by Sunday, he also said he'd guarantee the work for at 5years. Cost: 36 pack of budweiser __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

01-09-2016, 09:05 AM	#31
Jimmyz123 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,385	KUSI just showed a live shot of the launch and it's worse than the picture that I posted. Never underestimate the power of the ocean and mother nature. __________________ No better time than being on the water, God Bless, JimmyZ

01-13-2016, 02:33 PM	#35
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	New strip mall? __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

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01-07-2016, 07:44 PM	#21
Rufus Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Ocean Beach Posts: 90	If I didn't know any better I'd say it was a box culvert in the desert that got flooded out. But it's not. Lol! Thinking back to high school in the late 60s, I think this is the 5th time it's been beat by the weather.

01-07-2016, 07:57 PM	#22
DanaPT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South OC Posts: 1,606	I call bs. Must be a hot bite and the lj locals are messing with us.

01-08-2016, 04:26 PM	#26
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Pour a couple dump truck loads of sand on top, pack it down, and your good to go. Just repeat after every storm. So the sand starts 40' closer than it used to. Mike

01-09-2016, 09:03 AM	#30
monstahfish Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 420	They ought to build a 4 foot deep concrete footing at the end of the road with a retractable barrier or leave a k-rail on the edge of the road that can be moved into place during a storm. This would make it basically an extension of the sea wall during these events.

01-09-2016, 10:43 AM	#32
igotpron Xcoastie Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Westminster Posts: 285	Sooooooooooo.?? 4x4 required now?

01-13-2016, 02:36 PM	#36
Harry Hill Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Yucaipa, CA Posts: 1,136	Eventually everything yields to the power of water. I worked in the water industry for 30 years and saw it take out giant concrete pours. Just fix it for right now because you can't throw enough money at it to make it last forever.

01-13-2016, 04:52 PM	#37
igotpron Xcoastie Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Westminster Posts: 285	Is there any spot you can wheel straight down and avoid steps? If I don't have to drag my pro angler down steps that would be awesome.