I beat a seal - Page 2 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

October · 08-12-2012, 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrM

Popcorn in 3...2...1...

I'm guessing he was temporarily banned for heckling someone?

I'm too new here so, ummm, where's the door.... Oh there it is. You guys have fun...

/exits

PE.rider · 08-13-2012, 12:42 AM

Thanks for the story about the pelican. I agree with your sentiments about the outlandish way that person cruelly-abused that animal, and am sad to see a fellow angler devolve to that level.

On the other hand, I think maybe we should give lowprofile the benefit of the doubt, as he was probably jesting or venting his frustration... Posts online don't normally reveal the full aspect of a person's real intentions... as it is more likely that he was 'just saying.'

Of course, if we see him out on the water clubbing seals or sea lions with an icepick, that's another matter.

I'm actually planning to buy that catch back since the description says that there are drainage holes for fluid. I normally take out a trader joes soft-shell, insulated tote bag with some ice to keep my legal catches fresh. Spares me from attracting annoyances or other encounters. My cousin had a Boston Whaler with a few of those offshore fish bags which were awesome. Kept the decks clean, and fish fresh (sashimi-grade).

As for a humane method for warding off unwanted wildlife, I wonder if something such as a noise-can would be effective without harming the offender in question.

bus kid · 08-13-2012, 07:09 AM

Why dont we all take a breather, read the link below, reopen the link below, re read it the 2nd time all the way through, come back re read through all the post then lastly re read the link below.

I'm pretty sure LowPro was jesting about the poke stick

[font] sarcastic [font] maybe we can get the mods to insert a sarcastic font. [font] sarcastic [font]

http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mamma...-Pinnipeds.pdf.

Baja_Traveler · 08-13-2012, 07:12 AM

The best option here is to just make the thread go away...

[Insert foot in mouth picture here:]

bus kid · 08-13-2012, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baja_Traveler

The best option here is to just make the thread go away...

[Insert foot in mouth picture here:]

Why, because someone SAID something you didnt like.

I have countless run ins with various types of sea life that has needed to be deterred, I dont believe in harming it but if the need arises to use force to protect myself I will. Try taking a 8 year old out on a tandem and having a seal jump on the back not once but twice, both times I shot it with a paintball marker in the side and it came back. I had to radio the harbour patrol for assistance, at which point they actually tied the seal to their boat an towed it away from us. every time I tag a seal with the paint ball marker I don't feel bad at all either.

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowprofile

With my paddle as it tried to eat my fish bleeding on the game clip , then kicked it on its forehead.

I don't feel bad at all.

Thinking of rigging a boning knife to a stick.

Iceman · 08-13-2012, 07:43 AM

I have all kinds of evil thoughts about sea lions, I just keep them to myself.

bus kid · 08-13-2012, 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman

I have all kinds of evil thoughts about sea lions, I just keep them to myself.

Welcome back!

mazilla · 08-13-2012, 07:49 AM

Don't you know you're supposed to talk it out with the wildlife? Next time, you tell that animal what it has done wrong, how it's violating your personal space, and that you too would like to eat the catch you worked so hard for. Being perfectly reasonable I'm sure the creature will recognize the error of it's ways, apologize and go on about it's day. After all, when two wild animals go head to head over food they tend to take into account each others feelings, have a good long debate about the morality of their intentions and eventually come to a joint resolution that suits both their needs...

That's how it goes, right?

lowprofile · 08-13-2012, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bus kid

Why dont we all take a breather, read the link below, reopen the link below, re read it the 2nd time all the way through, come back re read through all the post then lastly re read the link below.

I'm pretty sure LowPro was jesting about the poke stick

[font] sarcastic [font] maybe we can get the mods to insert a sarcastic font. [font] sarcastic [font]

http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mamma...-Pinnipeds.pdf.

it was just a sarcastic, evil plot. the paintball gun might be handy. although most of the time i see them is when they are still under water right by my yak. they never give enough body to get a good shot, unless you peg them in the head.

no one cares i used a paddle, all they see is the word knife and go ballistic. I bet no one here would go moose hunting in alaska without bear protection though.

tight lines.

lambadmin · 08-13-2012, 09:24 AM

The best part about this thread is bigbarrels post - it is right on.

bus kid · 08-13-2012, 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowprofile

no one cares i used a paddle, all they see is the word knife and go ballistic. tight lines.

You should have said K-bar!

taggermike · 08-13-2012, 11:25 AM

Do any of you remember when some "insert word here" was cutting off the bills and pouches of pelicans here in SD. I think that was 15 years or so ago. I hope we don't see that BS happening again. With social media and cameras every where that will give every one a black eye. Beating a pelican to death for what they do naturally (eating fish) is just wrong, illegal, and unnessasary.

By all means defend yourself, but defence doesn't start with carring a deadly wepon. It starts with knowledge and a defensive mindset. When you're in bear country you put your chow in a tree or in a bear proof can. You don't stash granola under your pillow in the tent. Treat sealions the same. Get your fish landed, bled, and secured out of sight as quickly as you can. I have never once bled a fish over the side of the yak. I bleed them down the front scupper hole (now mirage drive slot) and just keep water flowing down the hole with a sponge. It's NEVER the animals fault in any human/animal interaction or confrontation. Mike

JNAST13ST · 08-13-2012, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PE.rider

I can relate, but getting mad will probably lead to bad karma...

Why not buy a decent catch bag like the one on the online store?

Precision Pak YakCatch Fish Bag
Insulated game bag
PRICE: $69.95

Keeps, Jaws, Pelicans, and other annoying fish thieves from taking your hard-earned prize...

Cant fit a yellow in that thing lol

PE.rider · 08-13-2012, 08:42 PM

Yeah. I know the YTs that have been coming out of LJ have been monstrous...

I finally recalled the bag that my cousin had. It was the Sea Angler fish bag and I think it would be long enough for most species targeted via kayaks.

Sea Angler 65" x 20" Off Shore Fishing Bag

If there's enough demand, maybe the board sponsors will decide to carry it.

I agree that keeping the sight and smell of food away from wildlife is the probably the best course of action.

yotasan · 08-13-2012, 09:32 PM

http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mamma...-Pinnipeds.pdf

lowprofile · 08-13-2012, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yotasan

http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mamma...-Pinnipeds.pdf

this is like the 3rd time its been posted lol.

bus kid · 08-14-2012, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lowprofile

this is like the 3rd time its been posted lol.

step one, read 1st post dont like what was said,
step two, skip all the junk in the middle,
step three, post reply.

just to be clear we are talking about seals not sea birds right?

I think all the fish sticks are conspiring against you!!!

08-13-2012, 07:09 AM	#23
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	Why dont we all take a breather, read the link below, reopen the link below, re read it the 2nd time all the way through, come back re read through all the post then lastly re read the link below. I'm pretty sure LowPro was jesting about the poke stick [font] sarcastic [font] maybe we can get the mods to insert a sarcastic font. [font] sarcastic [font] http://www.nwr.noaa.gov/Marine-Mamma...-Pinnipeds.pdf. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

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08-13-2012, 12:42 AM	#22
PE.rider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: OC, CA Posts: 234	Thanks for the story about the pelican. I agree with your sentiments about the outlandish way that person cruelly-abused that animal, and am sad to see a fellow angler devolve to that level. On the other hand, I think maybe we should give lowprofile the benefit of the doubt, as he was probably jesting or venting his frustration... Posts online don't normally reveal the full aspect of a person's real intentions... as it is more likely that he was 'just saying.' Of course, if we see him out on the water clubbing seals or sea lions with an icepick, that's another matter. I'm actually planning to buy that catch back since the description says that there are drainage holes for fluid. I normally take out a trader joes soft-shell, insulated tote bag with some ice to keep my legal catches fresh. Spares me from attracting annoyances or other encounters. My cousin had a Boston Whaler with a few of those offshore fish bags which were awesome. Kept the decks clean, and fish fresh (sashimi-grade). As for a humane method for warding off unwanted wildlife, I wonder if something such as a noise-can would be effective without harming the offender in question.

08-13-2012, 07:12 AM	#24
Baja_Traveler Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Table 17, Bay Park Fish Co. Posts: 943	The best option here is to just make the thread go away... [Insert foot in mouth picture here:]

08-13-2012, 07:49 AM	#28
mazilla advocatus diaboli Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 154	Don't you know you're supposed to talk it out with the wildlife? Next time, you tell that animal what it has done wrong, how it's violating your personal space, and that you too would like to eat the catch you worked so hard for. Being perfectly reasonable I'm sure the creature will recognize the error of it's ways, apologize and go on about it's day. After all, when two wild animals go head to head over food they tend to take into account each others feelings, have a good long debate about the morality of their intentions and eventually come to a joint resolution that suits both their needs... That's how it goes, right?

08-13-2012, 11:25 AM	#32
taggermike Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chula Vista Posts: 1,589	Do any of you remember when some "insert word here" was cutting off the bills and pouches of pelicans here in SD. I think that was 15 years or so ago. I hope we don't see that BS happening again. With social media and cameras every where that will give every one a black eye. Beating a pelican to death for what they do naturally (eating fish) is just wrong, illegal, and unnessasary. By all means defend yourself, but defence doesn't start with carring a deadly wepon. It starts with knowledge and a defensive mindset. When you're in bear country you put your chow in a tree or in a bear proof can. You don't stash granola under your pillow in the tent. Treat sealions the same. Get your fish landed, bled, and secured out of sight as quickly as you can. I have never once bled a fish over the side of the yak. I bleed them down the front scupper hole (now mirage drive slot) and just keep water flowing down the hole with a sponge. It's NEVER the animals fault in any human/animal interaction or confrontation. Mike

08-13-2012, 08:42 PM	#34
PE.rider Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: OC, CA Posts: 234	Yeah. I know the YTs that have been coming out of LJ have been monstrous... I finally recalled the bag that my cousin had. It was the Sea Angler fish bag and I think it would be long enough for most species targeted via kayaks. Sea Angler 65" x 20" Off Shore Fishing Bag If there's enough demand, maybe the board sponsors will decide to carry it. I agree that keeping the sight and smell of food away from wildlife is the probably the best course of action.