hobie rudder - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tagyak · 06-30-2011, 08:28 AM

hi fishmaster,

what is your budget? if it is around $1300 you can find the newer ones often. just have to keep looking on c.l. everyday.
but i would recommend listening to pchen911 advise. it is better to get the model with the twist and stow rudder, for $300-$500 more, you are getting a much better boat.

fishmaster015 · 06-30-2011, 09:54 AM

Right now its about 1000. I've seen a the newer ones just mostly in the san Diego area. I'm about an hour and a half with no traffic so I'm always hesitant to drive down unless I know its worth my while. I've seen some of the newer ones in my range I just havnt been the first to jump on them. I'm getting impatient because I want to get on the water now that school is out

bigFISHINyak · 06-30-2011, 12:47 PM

Having owned an 06 and 07 outback and an 09 revolution I can honestly say that Hobie should have kept the old kick up rudder but changed the hull design. If you could match the kick up rudder with the newer hull design it would be much better. The twist and stow did have the advantage in that the rudder is completely out of the water and does not drag on the ground when landing. I had the sailing rudder on both models and the twist and stow with the sailing rudder put a TON of stress on the cables and pulley system. Yes it is made pretty stout but the older kick up was much sturdier in my opinion. The landing with the kick up rudder was slightly odd in that if you were in very shallow landing areas it would slightly scrape the bottom with the sailing rudder. Another thing to take into account is the kayak cart.....with the twist and stow the rudder is completely taken away from any ground contact but with the older kick up it will hit the ground at a certain angle. Another item to think about is the back storage area. To be honest....you cant beat the new design of the storage in that the livewell that Hobie makes is perfect for rod storage. Had this on my 07 and it was a dream in comparison to a crate type of system that you have to come up with for the older rectangular inset storage behind the seat. Just some additional things to think about but if I could have it my way, I would have the old kick up on the newer hull design. Oh and if you worried about maneuvering around in an outback......pass on the outback and get a revolution. Plus it is slightly quicker in the water and easier to land or dismount for some.

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06-30-2011, 08:28 AM	#1
tagyak Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Alhambra Posts: 506	hi fishmaster, what is your budget? if it is around $1300 you can find the newer ones often. just have to keep looking on c.l. everyday. but i would recommend listening to pchen911 advise. it is better to get the model with the twist and stow rudder, for $300-$500 more, you are getting a much better boat.

06-30-2011, 09:54 AM	#2
fishmaster015 Junior Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Fullerton, CA Posts: 6	Right now its about 1000. I've seen a the newer ones just mostly in the san Diego area. I'm about an hour and a half with no traffic so I'm always hesitant to drive down unless I know its worth my while. I've seen some of the newer ones in my range I just havnt been the first to jump on them. I'm getting impatient because I want to get on the water now that school is out

06-30-2011, 12:47 PM	#3
bigFISHINyak Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 44	Having owned an 06 and 07 outback and an 09 revolution I can honestly say that Hobie should have kept the old kick up rudder but changed the hull design. If you could match the kick up rudder with the newer hull design it would be much better. The twist and stow did have the advantage in that the rudder is completely out of the water and does not drag on the ground when landing. I had the sailing rudder on both models and the twist and stow with the sailing rudder put a TON of stress on the cables and pulley system. Yes it is made pretty stout but the older kick up was much sturdier in my opinion. The landing with the kick up rudder was slightly odd in that if you were in very shallow landing areas it would slightly scrape the bottom with the sailing rudder. Another thing to take into account is the kayak cart.....with the twist and stow the rudder is completely taken away from any ground contact but with the older kick up it will hit the ground at a certain angle. Another item to think about is the back storage area. To be honest....you cant beat the new design of the storage in that the livewell that Hobie makes is perfect for rod storage. Had this on my 07 and it was a dream in comparison to a crate type of system that you have to come up with for the older rectangular inset storage behind the seat. Just some additional things to think about but if I could have it my way, I would have the old kick up on the newer hull design. Oh and if you worried about maneuvering around in an outback......pass on the outback and get a revolution. Plus it is slightly quicker in the water and easier to land or dismount for some.