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MuddyMike · 03-10-2011, 02:11 PM

I usually request trial by written declaration. It tells about it on the back of your ticket somewhere.

I got a cell phone ticket, and actually just went to court yesterday to request a TBD. Basically you pay your bail, and they give you some time to fill out your statement.

You can either mail or hand in your statement.

If you don't feel comfortable doing it, there's many services out there that will charge you about $100- to file it for you. (search mr. ticket)

What you have going for you is that the cops get paid more to be in court on the days they assign you, so there's a good chance they will be there.

With a TBD, they have to fill out paperwork, and often they may not even send it in.

If you are found innocent, then you will get your bail amount sent back to you.

if you are guilty, you can still appeal it and fight it in court.

This is how I understand it anyway. Over the last 10 years or so, I've gotten found innocent on 3 speeding tickets. We'll see what happens with this cell phone ticket.

You can find a lot of info online about it. It's intimidating, but it's pretty easy. You just fill out the form explaining that you are not guilty without incriminating yourself, and send it in. It usually takes about 3 months to get a verdict.

tagyak · 03-10-2011, 02:42 PM

thanks for the info. in this case, my trail date is for tomorrow, can i still request for an extension and a trial be declaration? or is it too late to do this?

MuddyMike · 03-10-2011, 02:44 PM

i'm no expert, but if 'trial date' is the date on your ticket, then probably. just go to the traffic offenses counter and ask.

WahooUSMA · 03-10-2011, 05:21 PM

Good luck, Tim. Was it CHP or City PD? What did he/she state in the narrative? Did they just cite you for 21703 vc or are the additional violations?

tagyak · 03-10-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by WahooUSMA

Good luck, Tim. Was it CHP or City PD? What did he/she state in the narrative? Did they just cite you for 21703 vc or are the additional violations?

it was city pd. said that i was speeding doing 45 in a 35 and made some illegal lane changes but just cited me for 21703 vc. this was early a.m. during the work week.
i think the cop was being nice in his own way. but still a jerk for giving me a ticket instead of a warning.

bus kid · 03-10-2011, 08:00 PM

That sucks the CHP aka (AAA with a gun) have had my arse, local might be a little nicer. I've had the Sheriffs give me more warnings then tickets. like jorge said plead out and take the 12 / 16 hr course, it kills the weekend but save your insurance. I actually had so many tickets back as a kid that no ins company would carry me, had to have the state appointment me one. due to the cost I rode a bike for 3 years until the 5 tickets in 4 months dropped off.
best of luck in a positive outcome.

StinkyMatt · 03-10-2011, 08:11 PM

Damn it Tim....

Looks like you will do just about anything to make me drive on all our fishing trips!

But then again, I've been in the car with you and even if I had no legs, no arms and blind in both eyes I may be the better driver.

My limited experience, they don't tell you all of your options in court, unless you ask. When you get your 3 seconds in front of the judge, don't let him rush you.

Ask for reduction in fine. I knocked a 450 dollar ticket to about 280.

Good luck.

jorluivil · 03-10-2011, 02:43 PM

Schedule an arraignment with the Judge and ask for second offender traffic school, if he allows you to do it you could be taking a 12hr or 16hr course. A few years ago I received two moving violations in just as many months and tried to fight the second one because I had already attended traffic school on the first one.

Long story short...

If I decided to fight it the judge said he hit me with the stiffest fine possible if I lost but if I pleaded guilty (child restraint and speeding) to both counts he would allow me to attend second offenders traffic school, I pleaded guilty and was given a 16 hr course. At this point you have nothing to lose so give it a try.

03-10-2011, 05:21 PM	#4
WahooUSMA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 753	Good luck, Tim. Was it CHP or City PD? What did he/she state in the narrative? Did they just cite you for 21703 vc or are the additional violations? __________________ GO ARMY BEAT NAVY! Bad decisions make great stories!

03-10-2011, 08:00 PM	#6
bus kid Team Keine Zugehörigkeit Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Way out there Posts: 2,854	That sucks the CHP aka (AAA with a gun) have had my arse, local might be a little nicer. I've had the Sheriffs give me more warnings then tickets. like jorge said plead out and take the 12 / 16 hr course, it kills the weekend but save your insurance. I actually had so many tickets back as a kid that no ins company would carry me, had to have the state appointment me one. due to the cost I rode a bike for 3 years until the 5 tickets in 4 months dropped off. best of luck in a positive outcome. __________________ Não alimente os trolls------------Don't feed the trolls---------------インタネット荒らしを無視しろ

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03-10-2011, 02:11 PM	#1
MuddyMike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 111	I usually request trial by written declaration. It tells about it on the back of your ticket somewhere. I got a cell phone ticket, and actually just went to court yesterday to request a TBD. Basically you pay your bail, and they give you some time to fill out your statement. You can either mail or hand in your statement. If you don't feel comfortable doing it, there's many services out there that will charge you about $100- to file it for you. (search mr. ticket) What you have going for you is that the cops get paid more to be in court on the days they assign you, so there's a good chance they will be there. With a TBD, they have to fill out paperwork, and often they may not even send it in. If you are found innocent, then you will get your bail amount sent back to you. if you are guilty, you can still appeal it and fight it in court. This is how I understand it anyway. Over the last 10 years or so, I've gotten found innocent on 3 speeding tickets. We'll see what happens with this cell phone ticket. You can find a lot of info online about it. It's intimidating, but it's pretty easy. You just fill out the form explaining that you are not guilty without incriminating yourself, and send it in. It usually takes about 3 months to get a verdict.

03-10-2011, 02:42 PM	#2
tagyak Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Alhambra Posts: 506	thanks for the info. in this case, my trail date is for tomorrow, can i still request for an extension and a trial be declaration? or is it too late to do this?

03-10-2011, 02:44 PM	#3
MuddyMike Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 111	i'm no expert, but if 'trial date' is the date on your ticket, then probably. just go to the traffic offenses counter and ask.

03-10-2011, 08:11 PM	#7
StinkyMatt Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Under a bridge Posts: 2,169	Damn it Tim.... Looks like you will do just about anything to make me drive on all our fishing trips! But then again, I've been in the car with you and even if I had no legs, no arms and blind in both eyes I may be the better driver. My limited experience, they don't tell you all of your options in court, unless you ask. When you get your 3 seconds in front of the judge, don't let him rush you. Ask for reduction in fine. I knocked a 450 dollar ticket to about 280. Good luck.

03-10-2011, 02:43 PM	#8
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Schedule an arraignment with the Judge and ask for second offender traffic school, if he allows you to do it you could be taking a 12hr or 16hr course. A few years ago I received two moving violations in just as many months and tried to fight the second one because I had already attended traffic school on the first one. Long story short... If I decided to fight it the judge said he hit me with the stiffest fine possible if I lost but if I pleaded guilty (child restraint and speeding) to both counts he would allow me to attend second offenders traffic school, I pleaded guilty and was given a 16 hr course. At this point you have nothing to lose so give it a try.