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11-13-2010, 11:49 AM
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 ...Who's got the Popcorn?You could say I've been around the block a few time on the kayak boards. This isn't the first and it sure won't be the last time this happens. Smile and Fish.  Today there was 15 kayakers out and 10 PBers on the point and I will tell you that it was not WFO. LJ is the same way it is every year, big fish for those lucky enough to get out and actually catch them. I didn't catch shit today. This is the year of the squid. There is squid from Mexico all the way up to Point Conception this year. Salty Dawgs who have been fishing for decades have never seen this much squid. I've been out to LJ 3x recently and all I've caught is squid and mackeral. FYI- LJ is at the end of a Rainbow and there is always a bite and there is always fish if your in the right spot at the right time. Anytime you have a trench next to kelp=Fish. There are some unwritten Rules. If you want to live by them, great! If you don't, that's up to you.  Rule 1: First thing about LJ, don't talk about LJ Rule 2: Never post someone else's catch or picture unless they ask you to. Rule 3: See Rule 1 Hope this helps! Tight Lines Moyer 
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11-13-2010, 01:06 PM
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Like I said ...
This BWE board used to be useful, and Jim's board before that, and Allen's Yakfishing board before that - all the way back to about 1998, when I got my first Scupper Pro and started fishing the La Jolla kelp and sharing information with other kayakers. We have always "talked about LJ", so I am not sure where that rule #1 came from, the LJ Guide book? I didn't realize I plagarized the Jr High thing from StinkyMatt's post, but man, we are on the same page. High five to whoever you are. (and I know all of these other guys, mostly) Through no fault of the BWE team, I'm sure most will agree, this "reports" board has become essentially worthless. No reponse necessary. |
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11-13-2010, 01:13 PM
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Larry- The Rules were a JOKE!
 I've always shared and still get shit from my friends for doing so. |
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11-13-2010, 01:59 PM
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Guys thanks for the report.
Larry, I wouldn't say these boards are no longer useful. There is still plenty of good info circling around, especially for the new folks. When it comes to fishing reports, I miss "good ol' times" where part of the thrill was to post your trip the same day, to inspire someone going out the next day. And, off course, brag... Scally has a point - someone else story is just that, their story. It's always been like that. What I think is silly is when people try to imply what's the "proper" way when it comes to sharing your fishing report. That's a highly personal thing IMHO - share if you wish, just don't do it if you feel like that... To be patrolling "Kayak Fishing Reports" public forums so you can tell other people when and how to share their fishing report... just doesn't make sense to me. Here's more of the same discussion on this same side-tracked subject from a few years back http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...ead.php?t=2932
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11-13-2010, 02:08 PM
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Pretty sure the timely reports stopped about when I moved
 ..........we used to call in "fresh off the horn" reports back in the good old days.  I still hate chasing yesterdays fish, much rather stumble on my own!
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11-13-2010, 02:11 PM
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Amen Adi!
You guys have to give reports because Adi can't fish for a month or do the 5 finger knucke shuffle Here is the evolution of a Kayak Fisherman:
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11-13-2010, 02:29 PM
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Cmon Matt, you've been on these boars too long, like me!
At least I got an excuse, I kind of work here. You forget that you read someone else's post years ago, and you slide it in years later as your own! It was Todd's brilliant post you are improvizing on - I had to dig it out and repost it: Quote:
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11-13-2010, 03:53 PM
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11-13-2010, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by C-level
 The evolution of kayak fisherman at La Jolla, a timeline-  The first years- Look at me!! Look at me!! I caught a fish, it's so big...I'm so cool!!! The helper- Now that I know how to catch some fish, I'll do my best to help other catch some too... The arguer (#1)- Thanks for the out dated report, bites over… if you don’t post, then don’t read post… your all wrong…you’re a tool… you have no right to ____!!! The population explosion- Where did all these other fisherman come from, it used to be so quiet here? Why is it that when I post my fish there is so many people out? The realization- I miss the quietness that there used to be... it's much harder to catch those fish now? I work hard and put in countless hours to find this bite. Ouch…my foot hurts from where I shot it… The competitor- I better be careful with what I say or my competition is going to get the jump on me. The arguer (#2)- Thanks for letting the cat out of the bag… way to ruin the bite…you’re a tool... you have no right to ___... how dare you...... STFU!!! The final straw- WTF is all this politics and bickering on The Board, it's getting old... this is fishing! it's supposed to be fun... I’m done with this shit! I fish for me, my piece of mind and to have a good time with my friends. Who care what the general public thinks, I don't know them anyway... Hey buddy what's you phone # so we can share info with each other and not the rest of the world. The outside viewer- Nothing has changed, politics, BS and more and more new people on the timeline... it will never end. Will it? It's fishing, have fun, quit bickering... Just an opinion / observation from a nobody… bring on the arguers The preceding information has not been evaluated by BWE, use as described, results may vary. from a fisherman formly known as C-level Oh how we need to turn this into a pole of where your at on the above scale  |
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11-14-2010, 06:10 AM
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Can't we all just get along?
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Bust Out Another Thousand I couldn't afford the constant repairs and such so I donated my old boat to Father Joe. Then I spent a few years researching Kayak fishing and finally made the leap. Tore my bicep tendon on my first trip out had surgery and 8 months later I'm back at it. This sport and community of fisherman, Boaters and Kayakers, is too important for us to all bash each other for posting a report. Yes, I agree one should post only their reports unless otherwise authorized to do so. Does that make Scally a bad fisherman? No. You name the fish board, BD, SD, or whatever and you will always find those who want to preserve a fishery so they tell you not to speak of an area of fishing for fear that it will be over fished. I believe that we all love to catch fish, and we all know there are newbies out there that would also love to catch fish. When you see a newbie land their first big fish, hands shaking from the rush, and the smile on their face, man that's what it's all about. I'll catch my first big fish from the Yak someday and you know I'll be posting a report. Let's all just get out and catch some fish. 
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11-15-2010, 08:41 PM
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I had some real good times........and good stuff..I Think I did
Didn't I ????? I'll be back......
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11-17-2010, 04:07 PM
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Too bad
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This is exactly why I never bother to post a fish report EVER even when I do catch a fish...just like surfing...people think they own the ocean and have a right to self regulate it and create imaginary rules or laws. As long as long as you are respectful and not an "a" hole then I think you should be able to do whatever you want as long as it is within the "real life" laws. I guess mentioning that you saw "a guy" catch "a fish" is against the unwritten rules. I will have to try to remember that. sheesh... I have a totally different view of these boards now... o well |
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11-17-2010, 04:49 PM
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Don't let it get to you. I never judge a person by their internet rants. You never know how many they've had when they wrote that Chit. I find that a simple private message usually does the trick. Cheers!
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11-17-2010, 05:44 PM
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You have never posted your own fish report? Like many, I have posted quite a bit. And I have never seen anyone be presecuted for that. I personally, would love to see your fish report. I think its safe to say, that many in this forum would love to read your report and give you props. Try it, I think you'll like it. But make sure its your own, not someone else's.
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11-18-2010, 06:25 AM
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Oh ya.....I got two big WSB back in June..................is that waiting long enough to post 
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11-18-2010, 08:22 AM
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one last thing..........ive been out to LJ a lot...not as much as some more than others and odly enough, my best day ever was with 200 of my closest friends... a good split between PB'rs and yakers but we did outnumber them......there were sphincters out there and luckily i was right next to one of them when i pulled up about 50 yards away from him (about as far away as you could get from anyone) and set up my 1'st, 2n'd, 3rd and 4th drift and slammed a yellow or bruiser BSB (safely released) every freakin time....it was the best thing on this planet.... i was just being friendly asking what all the baloons were about making conversation with a fellow angler even though he was a pb'r and he started cussing up a storm about all these other people gettin in on his space and how he's been there all nigh with nothing to show for it. What sweet redemption to just get slammed right in front of him!!!!
baloons.....ha....guess he didn't know the squid were on the bottom along with every other fish in the sea slurpin them up.....good times..... One thing that pissed me off though was that i saw him get whacked with a 5 min fight only to see it was a bat ray so his dumb ass took his anger out on the poor thing and shanked the thing about fifty times before dropping him back in davies locker...wht a prick!! all i know is i consider all you yakers out there my comrades when im there, happy to share and greatfull for info...there's enough fish out there trust me, even on the busy days.
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11-18-2010, 01:28 PM
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Now, as far as posting durring a hot bite, Well, that all depends if you like fishing with a small crowd or a very large crowd. too many different opinions regarding that. And how long should you wait to report after a hot bite? Not sure about that one.  Like Bush once said... "you can't be all things to all one" Has it been a hot bite lately? Well, I don't know work has been keeping me away from fishing. I guess the only way to find out is "go fish." soon. And if its wide open balls out fishing I'll send you a P.M. Sherm. But thats just me. I don't own the whole ocean just as small part of la Jolla in front of the condo - soooo stay away you PB's!
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11-18-2010, 04:45 PM
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My only saltwater report in a good while was the SBI report and I got away with that because it's essentially harmless. No-one could get thier panties in a wad, or claim that that report ruined a bite or lead to overfishing. I post freshwater no fish reports cuz... well... I mean who cares Bottom line: there's things you can post and things you can't, and it takes time to figure it out... I do not post real time La Jolla reports, lobster reports with locations, or any reports with inshore white sebass bites. Sue me but I have seen the problems those types of reports cause. Actually this thread reminds me of one from BD a while back where some guy poached a pic from this website and posted it saying: Huge Yellow On Yak Yesterday...!!!! My response was: "You rock..... Way to poach someone else's info and broadcast it to the whole frigging world.  "You'd think that was common sense. that it's bad form to steal someones info from another, and then post it on the biggest website in So.Cal. but then I got a bunch of these types of responses: "99% of kayakers in La Jolla are also BD fans. There is no issue. Jim Day does not represent us, I wish he would shut his fxxxxxx mouth." Some of those negative responses were from people who post here. I guess what I'm saying here is you just can't win. People have to learn things on their own time table, and no matter what you say some jerk is probably going to have something negative to say about it. So you have to figure it out for yourself and then post what you think is right. It's weird... I mean on one hand I wish people posted more La Jolla info so I could use it, but on the other hand I know it's not a great thing to do, and there is no reason for me to expect others to post theirs when I don't post mine. I'd say stealing a report and then posting it on another board is in bad taste. Saying you saw someone catch a fish, while you were actually out there fishing, in contrast is not the same thing, or even that big of a deal in my opinion, but that is just my take. Jim Last edited by Fiskadoro; 11-18-2010 at 05:21 PM. |
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11-19-2010, 01:43 AM
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Third bag of popcorn is in the micro.
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