MLPA meeting highlights / lowlights in real time - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

joyjiggin' · 10-22-2009, 05:08 PM

So is anything written in stone?? Or is it all still up in the air????

Billy V · 10-22-2009, 05:12 PM

Nothing is in stone.
Even More Options are on the table.

For La Jolla
Map 2 style -Delmar and Sunset Cliffs

-Swamis and Sunset Cliffs

-SMCA At Scripps to Allow hook and line coastal pelagic (and Maybe Pelagic)
South La Jolla to Crystal pier.

bender0240 · 10-22-2009, 05:16 PM

Billy: you have the impression LJ will be Map 2 style? I was thinking it looked more like Map 3. Did I miss something?

tylerdurden · 10-22-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by bender0240

Billy: you have the impression LJ will be Map 2 style? I was thinking it looked more like Map 3. Did I miss something?

It could be map 2 style, or 3, or some weird hybrid. They gave all the options.

Good news, no plan closes both South LJ and North PL.

-edit
When they archive the video in a day or so we can watch it again and see exactly what all the San Diego options were. It will be near the end.

Useful Idiot · 10-22-2009, 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

It could be map 2 style, or 3, or some weird hybrid. They gave all the options.

Good news, no plan closes both South LJ and North PL.

-edit
When they archive the video in a day or so we can watch it again and see exactly what all the San Diego options were. It will be near the end.

If I heard them right, did one option say that a Del Mar SMR would replace the South LJ SMR? I'll have to watch the archive video.

Billy V · 10-22-2009, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

It could be map 2 style, or 3, or some weird hybrid. They gave all the options.

Good news, no plan closes both South LJ and North PL.

Tyler,

Last night old Ken saved me as The Last Speaker. (I lost a bet with Zenspearo, it was going to be either one of us as punishment)

In my final public comments I asked for what we discussed, in a very pointed and respectful way.
-The stuff we need to preserve our sport -and for the spearos.

I was approached after the close of the meeting and asked to repeat it to one of our rsg friendlies for a discussion that apparently took place this morning, or late last night.
It certainly showed up at todays meeting.

bender0240 · 10-22-2009, 05:55 PM

BIG BIG BIG thanks to all you guy's that are making this happen. I'm real sorry this isn't over yet for you guys.

Corey · 10-22-2009, 06:48 PM

Well, I'll go ahead and ask for november 10 off work then.

Grego · 10-22-2009, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bender0240

BIG BIG BIG thanks to all you guy's that are making this happen. I'm real sorry this isn't over yet for you guys.

"You guys" should mean you too...it isn't over for "Us" We all still have work to do and should be held accountable for not doing our part in this fight.

Useful Idiot · 10-22-2009, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Billy V

Nothing is in stone.
Even More Options are on the table.

For La Jolla
Map 2 style -Delmar and Sunset Cliffs

-Swamis and Sunset Cliffs

-SMCA At Scripps to Allow hook and line coastal pelagic (and Maybe Pelagic)
South La Jolla to Crystal pier.

FYI, for those who don't know- Coastal Pelagic = anchovies, sardines, mackerel, smelt, squid.

tylerdurden · 10-22-2009, 05:13 PM

Wow.

I watched the last hour with perfect feed.

.

We get to go to another meeting and state our cases

.

I am so sick of this entire thing.

Thank you to Paul and all the RSG members for sitting through this for our sake.

Billy V · 10-22-2009, 05:15 PM

Its because of the Stand we Made Last Night.

and we are going to have to do it again, this time for all the marbles.
---------------
I need a rest.

dsafety · 10-22-2009, 05:25 PM

I was online following this thing all day. My take after watching the procedings is that while we don't yet know what is going to be the final outcome, it appears that we may have dodged the worst possible scenarios. Paul was there so I am sure he will have a better perspective.

With apologies to our brothers and sisters up north, my main concerns lie with what happens in San Diego. It looks like the three options being considered for this part of the world will all leave us with some to most of our favorite fishing grounds intact. We can hope that they just adopt option 2. From what I heard, there is at least one vote to do that. The other members of the BRTF were too hard to read so the outcome is still very much in doubt.

I found it interesting that the BRTF basically told the DFG rep that they really did not care if the final MLPA maps were enforceable. Seems pretty arrogant to me.

Bob

10-22-2009, 06:48 PM	#8
Corey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...waaaay out there Posts: 794	Well, I'll go ahead and ask for november 10 off work then. __________________

10-22-2009, 05:13 PM	#11
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Wow. I watched the last hour with perfect feed. . We get to go to another meeting and state our cases . I am so sick of this entire thing. Thank you to Paul and all the RSG members for sitting through this for our sake. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

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10-22-2009, 05:08 PM	#1
joyjiggin' Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Huntington Beach Posts: 109	So is anything written in stone?? Or is it all still up in the air????

10-22-2009, 05:12 PM	#2
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Nothing is in stone. Even More Options are on the table. For La Jolla Map 2 style -Delmar and Sunset Cliffs -Swamis and Sunset Cliffs -SMCA At Scripps to Allow hook and line coastal pelagic (and Maybe Pelagic) South La Jolla to Crystal pier.

10-22-2009, 05:16 PM	#3
bender0240 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 118	Billy: you have the impression LJ will be Map 2 style? I was thinking it looked more like Map 3. Did I miss something?

10-22-2009, 05:55 PM	#7
bender0240 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 118	BIG BIG BIG thanks to all you guy's that are making this happen. I'm real sorry this isn't over yet for you guys.

10-22-2009, 05:15 PM	#12
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Its because of the Stand we Made Last Night. and we are going to have to do it again, this time for all the marbles. --------------- I need a rest.

10-22-2009, 05:25 PM	#13
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	I was online following this thing all day. My take after watching the procedings is that while we don't yet know what is going to be the final outcome, it appears that we may have dodged the worst possible scenarios. Paul was there so I am sure he will have a better perspective. With apologies to our brothers and sisters up north, my main concerns lie with what happens in San Diego. It looks like the three options being considered for this part of the world will all leave us with some to most of our favorite fishing grounds intact. We can hope that they just adopt option 2. From what I heard, there is at least one vote to do that. The other members of the BRTF were too hard to read so the outcome is still very much in doubt. I found it interesting that the BRTF basically told the DFG rep that they really did not care if the final MLPA maps were enforceable. Seems pretty arrogant to me. Bob