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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Palos Verdes
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Redondo
Holy Mackerel said "Anglers in Redondo, where able to show up and make a difference."
Here is some of the economic impact info from the Redondo area. This is SMALL peanuts compaired to the San Diego area's ECONOMIC IMPACT. The economic impacts are calculated using the Boating Economic Model created by the Recreation Marine Research center at Michigan State University. This model uses information from over 12,500 nationwide boater surveys regarding craft spending, and 13,000 boaters regarding theirtrip spending activities. It found that the King Harbor Marina generates $46,755,000 in economic activity annually, and provides 267 jobs. This includes the launching activities. Data from a visitors survey that was conducted specifically at King Harbor was then used to determine how much of this activity is directly related to the ability to fish the local waters. There are 1,465 vessels in King Harbor and 185 responded to the survey. Of the respondents, 41% said they would not continue to keep their vessel , "If the current locations where you fish became off limits..." From information gathered from Redondo Sport Fishing and Tackle, 80% of the fishing activity that originates from King Harbor occurs at Rocky Point. Given that 41% of the vessels in King Harbor are there to fish and 80% of those to fish Rocky Point specifically, the surrounding communities will lose $17,317,000 in economic activity annually, and 87 jobs. Good Luck In Sandy Eggo....Fight the Fight it's worth it! Jim / Saba Slayer |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego
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I've sent a letter to each one of them and will be at the meeting. Also going to call each of them. We can not have our City Council show support for radical closures and we must show up in force to fight the Coastkeepers. At the very least they need to show support for Map 2. Not being able to responsibly use the ocean, that is a right we can not lose. We can not be told that we can not go and enjoy nature, especially inshore in a low impact manner. Sorry hanging out in the concrete jungle does not do it for me. I am not a large parking lot mall going type of guy. I enjoy nature when I'm not at work and I do it by interacting with it.
Does anyone know how city council meetings work? Will everyone be able to comment? |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bay Ho
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I was told by phone from Donna Frye's office that everyone who wants to speak, can speak.
They want to hear both sides of the argument. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
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#5 |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bay Ho
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Hello Everyone....
Are You Sending in Your E Mails ??? Please send your E Mail's today, I was told by Donna Frye's Office that they are going to use those E Mails and Public Commentary to Make a Decision wether or not to go forward with the SD Coast keepers Request. -You can bet that the Other Side if Flooding the Council Members with E mails to boot your As* off the water! -This literally takes a couple of minutes to compose an effective e mail and SEND IT TO EVERY COUNCIL MEMBER'S E MAIL ADDY POSTED IN THE THREAD. Please do it now. We will have our work cut out for us at the meeting. All the Friends of Seal Nut Cases, and Enviro Zombies will be there trying to drown Us Out. Make the commitment. Billy V |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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This warrants repeating.
-If Recreation Kayak Fisherman/Spearos-etc. can't use it- Nobody Else Can Either! This is Only a Law Suit Filing Away- The State AG's Office just clarified their position on what non-fishing activity is prohibited in a State Marine Reserve. Basically, any activity that "injure" to "any" living marine resource is a no-no in a State Marine Reserve unless it's "permitted research, restoration, and monitoring." This is a powerful argument with SD city council against SMRs in La Jolla (as in Group 3) and Point Loma. We should bring this up--if La Jolla and Point Loma is closed to beach access, surfing, boating, diving, etc., the city of San Diego will take it on the chin. See here. http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=93285 |
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BRTF...bought & paid...
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Man oh man...and at the Surfrider meeting when I mentioned what area I'd like to see stay open in N County, they laughed.
No more surfing for you fellas.... Let's see how they like it when they have to paddle 3 miles to get to a surf spot...
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: 2 inches above sea level
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Here's the link to Coastkeeper's proposal:
http://docs.sandiego.gov/councilcomm..._091007-8a.pdf LaJolla specifically is mentioned several times. They want it all. If you can make this meeting, please do!
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#9 |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Bay Ho
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Take Particular Notice of Section 4.
Section 4 THE CITY COUNCIL OF SAN DIEGO, CALIFORNIA ENDORSES THE PLACEMENT OF A FULLY PROTECTED MARINE RESERVE IN LA JOLLA. |
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#10 |
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego
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Yeah funny how they threw in an exact location at the very end.
- Joe |
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They Mean All of La Jolla.
Thats why they didn't specifically reference a proposed (SMR) as posted on any map. |
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: San Diego, CA
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I was there for 2 hours, and my 9 month old daughter could not take anymore, waiting to speak. But I did fill out an "oppose" form, and turn in my statement. They started calling fisherment an hour after I left. Good to see fellow fishermen there!
Council member Carl DeMaio stated that he had to leave early, but is "Standing with the fishermen on this issue" PLEASE SEND HIM A THANK YOU email, and to support WG 2. ![]() Watch it live CityTV | City of San Diego (http://www.sandiego.gov/citytv/)
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Marti Emerald to Coast Keeper, "you failed in your presentation, you used Teddy Roosevelt in your presentation, he was a sportsman, hunter, and fisherman. I cannot support your proposal."
Lightner capitulates with Emerald, and is concerned about the "no take, and contraints in the reserve." PLEASE EMAIL Thank these people, & give your support to 2!
Dont forget DeMaio "with the fishermen on this one."
Donna Frye: On the fence, "no motion, no action."
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: San Diego
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Carl DeMaio left early with the statement the San Diego City Council should side with the fishermen and support closures that are in the fisherman's best interest. He went on to say we have already lost too many jobs and too many industries and we should not lose our legacy.
Marti Emerald also lectured the coastkeepers about trying to sidestep the process at the last minute with basically BS data (she used a some bigger words ![]() They also all seemed to express not being happy hearing about these closures so late in the game. Everyone who spoke did an excellent job. I'm home having a beer to celebrate this small victory in the large scale of things. I think Donna Frye did an excellent job running the meeting as well. |
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Join Date: May 2006
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Billy closed the deal after Tommy Gomes and John from Oceanside spoke for us. Marti Emerald mentioned that Coastkeeper tried to push something through that wasn't well documented but that she had printed materials with data from reputable sources from Billy. My representative Sherri Lightner said "ditto to that". I didn't get to speak but I was definitely OK with how Donna Frye managed the meeting.
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#16 |
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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Just got off the phone with Billy V
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MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th. ![]() |
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Location: San Diego
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Didn't realize that was Billy V. Way to go dropping the facts clear and to the point
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#18 |
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Join Date: Sep 2005
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You can watch the video archive here:
http://granicus.sandiego.gov/ViewPub...php?view_id=14 I feel really bad but I just could not make this one, and I have made a lot of these meetings taking my own vacation time off work. So sorry guys for not making it. I am glad there were enough guys to cover.
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MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th. ![]() |
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