URGENT!! FAX to stop MLPA budgeting!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tylerdurden · 06-10-2009, 04:08 PM

Who has a fax at home these days

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Email in progress.

kurt · 06-10-2009, 05:15 PM

Faxes sent. E-mail next.

Tman · 06-10-2009, 05:32 PM

Make those calls, too...sometimes a voice conveys more than you think, esp. when it stands for something you believe in.

And my impression is that they want to know what the GP is thinking, and how actions would affect them; their future depends on staying in touch with the public.

T-Rex · 06-10-2009, 05:50 PM

Fax and emails sent!
Thanks for the info Chris.

dos ballenas · 06-10-2009, 06:04 PM

done

Tman · 06-10-2009, 06:19 PM

MUST READ - MAKE THOSE CALLS!

From the numbers Chris posted...

I just got off the phone with Jonathan Hardy (Senator Ducheny’s Staff), 619-409-7690. He is also a member of the statewide interest group, and here is some of the things he touched on that the Senator is aware of;

- That the mapping has issues and is behind
- That they are aware that the process is going too fast
- They listen not only enviros, but commercial as well
- That the BRTF has an agenda, he has heard that
- Aware of the budget, and part of the budget conference committee

Here is the best part...when I mentioned to him the concern of kelp habitat as a factor in determining which areas need help, and that some of the areas mentioned are very kelp-healthy, he said that they are aware that only certain years were used for the study, when there are 80 years' worth of study available...

The 3 mile closure from shore? CA only has that jurisdiction...over 3 miles is federal...did not know that...

Jonathan Hardy seemed to me to be helpful, knowledgeable about the process and the pros and cons, and assured me that the Senator is aware of problems in the process and the meeting tomorrow is a hearing to decide what steps need to be addressed.

Also, they are aware the DFG is under-funded and could pose problems, and I told him that I for one, like many of you, know how important it is to have the DFG out in force. A mention was made of Sutton's involvement, among other things I'd rather not post here...will talk about it Saturday...

Keep making those calls, I was taken aback how much he was informed of everything, calls regarding the MLPA are directed to him.

Thanks Chris for those numbers....

Tman · 06-11-2009, 10:29 AM

I have, with the help of Chris, come up with a letter that kids can give to their parents and let them know what is going on...

PM me if you would like a copy...

Tman · 06-11-2009, 09:00 PM

Got a couple people ask me for copies, hope they will work for you and would like your feedback.

I handed out a bunch today at Clay's school, talked to a bunch of people, had Moms saying that they would give it to their husbands who aren't aware, and Dads who knew nothing about the going ons with the MLPA...

Scary. Quite scary.

This is far from over, and since this whole act is supposed to have "extensive public input" (actual wording from their handouts), I cannot believe how many people have not heard about it.

Regardless if we win the first round, there will always be, most assuredly, a round 2...

I implore you to make copies, change names, schools, etc., and inform and enlighten the public.

For the record, I did not encounter one person, not one, who want what the anti-fishers want.

And the people I spoke to today are all parents. Imagine that. And if you don't have kids, I'm sure you know someone who does.

PS...If you have minimal posts and are unknown in the kayak community, sorry, I ran out of copies to email you...

Billy V · 06-10-2009, 07:52 PM

Mail Sent to everyone.

Have a Nice Day.

Matt · 06-10-2009, 08:18 PM

NO REST FOR THE WEARY OR THE DILLIGENT, and YEAH I DO HAVE A FAX MACHINE AT HOME NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD USE IT BUT HERE GOES!!!

dsafety · 06-11-2009, 03:00 PM

I have been trying to send faxes to these folks all day. The lines have been busy so none have gone through. Hopefully the lines are jammed by folks expressing our point of view.

I will try later this evening.

Bob

tylerdurden · 06-11-2009, 05:52 PM

Well, according the the rumors going around...
still trying to figure out what happened. Trying to find the real answer on the internet, because the internet is always right

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06-10-2009, 04:08 PM	#1
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Who has a fax at home these days . Email in progress. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-10-2009, 05:32 PM	#3
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Make those calls, too...sometimes a voice conveys more than you think, esp. when it stands for something you believe in. And my impression is that they want to know what the GP is thinking, and how actions would affect them; their future depends on staying in touch with the public. __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-10-2009, 06:04 PM	#5
dos ballenas Vampyroteuthis infernalis Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 585	done __________________ ____________________________________________

06-10-2009, 06:19 PM	#6
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	MUST READ - MAKE THOSE CALLS! From the numbers Chris posted... I just got off the phone with Jonathan Hardy (Senator Ducheny’s Staff), 619-409-7690. He is also a member of the statewide interest group, and here is some of the things he touched on that the Senator is aware of; - That the mapping has issues and is behind - That they are aware that the process is going too fast - They listen not only enviros, but commercial as well - That the BRTF has an agenda, he has heard that - Aware of the budget, and part of the budget conference committee Here is the best part...when I mentioned to him the concern of kelp habitat as a factor in determining which areas need help, and that some of the areas mentioned are very kelp-healthy, he said that they are aware that only certain years were used for the study, when there are 80 years' worth of study available... The 3 mile closure from shore? CA only has that jurisdiction...over 3 miles is federal...did not know that... Jonathan Hardy seemed to me to be helpful, knowledgeable about the process and the pros and cons, and assured me that the Senator is aware of problems in the process and the meeting tomorrow is a hearing to decide what steps need to be addressed. Also, they are aware the DFG is under-funded and could pose problems, and I told him that I for one, like many of you, know how important it is to have the DFG out in force. A mention was made of Sutton's involvement, among other things I'd rather not post here...will talk about it Saturday... Keep making those calls, I was taken aback how much he was informed of everything, calls regarding the MLPA are directed to him. Thanks Chris for those numbers.... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-11-2009, 10:29 AM	#7
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	I have, with the help of Chris, come up with a letter that kids can give to their parents and let them know what is going on... PM me if you would like a copy... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-10-2009, 05:15 PM	#2
kurt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 2 inches above sea level Posts: 503	Faxes sent. E-mail next.

06-10-2009, 05:50 PM	#4
T-Rex Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Rancho Santa Margarita Posts: 770	Fax and emails sent! Thanks for the info Chris.

06-11-2009, 09:00 PM	#8
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Letters... Got a couple people ask me for copies, hope they will work for you and would like your feedback. I handed out a bunch today at Clay's school, talked to a bunch of people, had Moms saying that they would give it to their husbands who aren't aware, and Dads who knew nothing about the going ons with the MLPA... Scary. Quite scary. This is far from over, and since this whole act is supposed to have "extensive public input" (actual wording from their handouts), I cannot believe how many people have not heard about it. Regardless if we win the first round, there will always be, most assuredly, a round 2... I implore you to make copies, change names, schools, etc., and inform and enlighten the public. For the record, I did not encounter one person, not one, who want what the anti-fishers want. And the people I spoke to today are all parents. Imagine that. And if you don't have kids, I'm sure you know someone who does. PS...If you have minimal posts and are unknown in the kayak community, sorry, I ran out of copies to email you... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-10-2009, 07:52 PM	#9
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Mail Sent to everyone. Have a Nice Day.

06-10-2009, 08:18 PM	#10
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	NO REST FOR THE WEARY OR THE DILLIGENT, and YEAH I DO HAVE A FAX MACHINE AT HOME NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD USE IT BUT HERE GOES!!! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

06-11-2009, 03:00 PM	#11
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,122	I have been trying to send faxes to these folks all day. The lines have been busy so none have gone through. Hopefully the lines are jammed by folks expressing our point of view. I will try later this evening. Bob

06-11-2009, 05:52 PM	#12
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Well, according the the rumors going around... still trying to figure out what happened. Trying to find the real answer on the internet, because the internet is always right . __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th. Last edited by tylerdurden; 06-11-2009 at 06:18 PM. Reason: not sure

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