A desperate MLPA Plea!!

[joyjiggin']

.I'll be there and my 14yr. old son, too. Kayakers, please UNITE.

[PAL]

The process is at a crisis point - I wouldn't ask you to take time off work and make the trek to LA if your future fishing access wasn't at stake. This is deadly serious. Please do all you can to get up there and speak your mind. If you let this pass, it may be too late, the damage will have been done.

[Matt]

F@#K Yeah I am GOING!!!!

[Tman]

Ya might need a navigator....

[Grego]

I'm posting this here because I somehow got locked out of my own MLPA thread on the BT site

Just a thought that came to mind....should someone bring a camcorder this time? being they might like to not tape our public comments AGAIN. I'd bring mine, but I don't own one.

[Tman]

Good point Grego...I don't have one, but I'm hoping that there are at least 10 from the people that attend...after all, it is a public forum, and should be recorded...

[Holy Mackerel]

Keep your commitments coming!! This list is nice, but not long enough! Our friends at Baytubers have people joining BWE too!

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Zen
4. Tyler
5. Corey (checking with boss)
6. Fallon
7. Steve Green
8. fryguy?
9. Kurt
10. Charles
11. Grego
12. Steveooo (Probably)
13. Buttchaser
14. Trevor
15. Joy
16. Joy's son
17. T-man
18. Kiyo

[DESTROYER]

Jim is going. I will bring my video recorder.

[Holy Mackerel]

Thanks Matt!

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Zen
4. Tyler
5. Corey (checking with boss)
6. Fallon
7. Steve Green
8. fryguy?
9. Kurt
10. Charles
11. Grego
12. Steveooo (Probably)
13. Buttchaser
14. Trevor
15. Joy
16. Joy's son
17. T-man
18. Kiyo
19. Jim Sammons

[tylerdurden]

Every meeting from here on out is important. The game keeps changing on us. We cannot let it happen without at least being heard. It is almost over. Join up now before it's too late.

From Zenspearo posted on Spearboard:

The thrust of the argument should be a clear expression of displeasure and disgust with the way the process was subverted and the votes were blatantly disregard. Question why the BRTF stated that proposals that do not have cross-interest support will not be considered and now the proposal with the lowest level of cross-interest support, even below 50%, is going forward? Question why the rules were changed to allow this proposal, which was voted out according to the rules set up before the vote was taken, to go forward. Why the secret ballot in this process, which was supposed to be public and transparent? Why it took two days to count the votes--who did they have to consult and answer to? That Ken Wiseman and the MLPA team show a reckless disregard for the RSG work, for the hours and hours of public testimony, and the system is corrupt and is counter to the definition of a fair, open, and public process. Do it in the most professional, most matter-of-fact way you can.

Don't blow your top, don't act unprofessional, don't use curse words. Remember these friends-of-Arnie (aka the Blue Ribbon Task Force) have all the power. They set it up that way. But make sure you aren't letting them get away with it.

A backup argument (which you MUST prepare) should be a refutation of the extreme map (External C) and support of your a more reasonable and fishing-friendly map. If you don't know which, look at External A and External B. Those are our two more friendly maps. Pinpoint an area (say La Jolla or PV or Laguna) and say why that is important to you and why there would be a devastating economic impact to closure. I'm saying you need to prepare this secondary argument in case they pull some BS procedural maneuver (Example: "We will take External C off the table FOR NOW for later consideration so comments regarding the inclusion of External C will not be heard today") and you want to make sure you didn't show up for nothing.

Seems like a legit line of questioning to me. I have a couple other concerns to add, but not the time right now. Also having a plan B sounds smart if they cave and make your first speech moot is good.

[Holy Mackerel]

Everyone, this is important, I know it will be hard.

Don't blow your top, don't act unprofessional, don't use curse words. Remember these friends-of-Arnie (aka the Blue Ribbon Task Force) have all the power. They set it up that way. But make sure you aren't letting them get away with it.

Also, Don Benninghoven MLPA Chair was a part of this decision as well.

Zen brings up a great point, after appropriately discussing the bias, offer a more reasonable plan to which you support.

[Matt]

IT is EXTREMELY important to be professional, courteous, and polite, we want to win with charm!! Print your speech out and read it to your friends out loud and practice it!! We need to appear (because we are) intelligent and concerned about the enviroment while still being consumptive users a.k.a. fisherman.

PLEASE EVERYONE WHO CAN PLAN ON ATTENDING!!

['Cuda]

I'd go but I'm fishing that day.


Just kidding.....it's in my back yard....I gotta go.

[herbo]

Quick question,what is the dress code? black T-shirts? What else? are shorts and slaps ok also? (sorry,my normal items I wear any and everywhere).....H

[habanero]

I'm in!!!

[Holy Mackerel]

Originally Posted by 'Cuda

I'd go but I'm fishing that day.


Just kidding.....it's in my back yard....I gotta go.

James it will be good to catch up!

Originally Posted by herbo

Quick question,what is the dress code? black T-shirts? What else? are shorts and slaps ok also? (sorry,my normal items I wear any and everywhere).....H

Black shirt, wear what was comfortable.

Habenero thanks for coming to another meeting!

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Tyler
4. Corey
5. Fallon
6. Steve Green
7. fryguy?
8. Kurt
9. Charles
10. Grego
11. Steveooo (Probably)
12. Buttchaser
13. Trevor
14. Joy
15. Joy's son
16. T-man
17. Kiyo
18. Jim Sammons
19. Dan
20. Cabo John (pending work)
21. James
22. Herbo
23. Habenero

June 4th, 2009
9:40AM Public Comment
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel *
6101 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

[Billy V]

Billy V
and
Don will attend.

[THE DARKHORSE]

Hours of traffic both ways and public speaking, two things I hate more than anything in the world...I can't wait!

[PAL]

Thank-you guys, to each and every one of you who is making the trip to speak up for your fisheries and businesses.

To those who can't make it, please make sure to send your comments by letter. It's the least anyone who might be affected by an MLPA closure should do.