Next MLPA Meeting May 19th-Public Comment! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

tylerdurden · 05-18-2009, 10:00 AM

Not even 25 guys?

This is serious. I saw more than 25 kayaks fishing this weekend.

What about representitives from OEX, FastLane, AYS? What about the kayak guides and website purveyors? For some of us it's a hobby and way of life. For you guys it is a business too. Don't make me name names. Are you going to show up?

Holy Mackerel · 05-18-2009, 10:10 AM

Guys n gals, read this, to help you get your thoughts, and comments together. Remember if you do not feel like speaking showing up to support your RSG in numbers is very crucial, and you can cede your time to others.

Suggestions for Effective Public Comment:

Public participation is one of the cornerstones of the California Marine
Life Protection Act (MLPA) Initiative and is greatly valued. One method for
participating in the process is by making comments at public meetings. A
short list of recommendations has been prepared to help maximize the
effectiveness of public comments:

1. Generally comments must be made within a one to three minute time
period. The length of time allocated to each speaker is at the discretion of
the meeting convener and depends on several factors, including the number of individuals wishing to speak on a particular topic.

2. Speakers should identify themselves by name, indicate their main
interest or connection to the ocean (if desired), and succinctly summarize
their main message with as much specificity as possible. It is most
effective to keep your verbal message to no more than three main points and then provide details about those points, or additional information, in a written document.

3. Comments should focus on topics under the purview of the Marine
Life Protection Act (MLPA) and that are under consideration by the MLPA group you are addressing:

a. Policy comments and overarching planning issues for the Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF).

b. Science comments for the Science Advisory Team (SAT).

c. Comments on marine protected area (MPA) design and placement for the Regional Stakeholder Group (RSG).

4. When preparing comments, it is very helpful to consider the key
points you wish to have the group members bear in mind as they do their work or make decisions.

5. Multiple speakers with a shared message or from the same organization are encouraged and will be requested to combine their speaking points.

6. Questions or comments can be submitted in writing via email (
MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov) or standard mail (MLPA Initiative, c/o
California Natural Resources Agency, 1416 Ninth Street, Suite 1311,
Sacramento, CA 95814) are distributed to the MLPA Initiative groups and
posted on the MLPA website.

7. There will be an opportunity for public comment at each public meeting; for two-day meetings, comment may only be taken on one of the two days. Meeting agendas will denote when public comment is expected to occur, though please note that these times are only an approximation. Work sessions are not public meetings and do not have a public comment period.

8. Speakers are welcome to distribute written material to the groups. If materials are submitted at least three business days in advance of a meeting, they will be copied by MLPA staff and provided to the group
members; if materials are received less than three business days in advance
of a meeting, you must provide a sufficient number of copies for distribution, otherwise staff will copy and distribute the information after the meeting. Other media presentations, such as slides and videos, are only permitted by prior arrangement and may be limited depending on time availability. An alternate space in the venue may be provided for displaying the speaker's additional media information or written materials, as needed.

tylerdurden · 05-18-2009, 10:27 AM

And this was mentioned on BD...

Everyone wear Black. Black tshirt, black dress shirt, black jacket... Just make sure it is black. All fisherman, whether Kayak, H&L, and spearfisherman wear black. That way they can see how many of us there (hopefuly) are.

Writing letters, and donating money is the easy way out. Do things on their time, not your own to show how much you care. Show up.

Billy V · 05-18-2009, 11:04 AM

What time is the San Diego group leaving for the meeting on the 19th ??
I am trying to arrange my schedule to attempt this meeting.

Thanks

Holy Mackerel · 05-18-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

What time is the San Diego group leaving for the meeting on the 19th ??

Depends on how much of the meeting you can, or want to attend. I would suggest leaving before 3PM, for traffic reasons. Public comment tomorrow is at 7PM, but the meeting starts at 8:00AM.

Tman · 05-18-2009, 03:20 PM

We are game on...thanks Chris for staying on top of this...

Don't know what Clay will say this time, but it comes from within. Maybe he will touch on the fact that is a safe launch, even for kids.

I am humbled (and outshined...

) just for the main fact that a 9 yr old understands the importance of being heard. And this time, he doesn't get to miss school yet still wants to go...safe to say he understands what is at stake...

See all of you there manana...

Holy Mackerel · 05-18-2009, 06:46 PM

BUMP!!!!!!!!

Tman · 05-18-2009, 09:48 PM

#62

Zee
Junior

Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Seattle, Wa
Posts: 5

Any updates on the progress?

I was living in NorCal when the MLPA's came through and they pretty much arbitratily closed sections of the coast. Thanks to the tireless efforts of an few kayak fishermen and organizations some spots were saved. But it took a hell of a lot of effort. I'd hate to see good spots closed down there as well so if you can, get down to the hearings and be heard. If you can't make it support someone who is going to talk or an organization that will.

In Washington the MLPA's are coming as well and we're doing the best we can to be prepared to preserve what we've got.

Z

Are we going to let this happen to us?

Sometimes you pick and choose your battles...

Do not sit on the fence on this one, and hope that others will bail us all out....

Thanks for that Zee...

Matt · 05-19-2009, 01:09 AM

The battle lines have been drawn and by standing by and not taking action you are doing exactly what the pro-MLPA people are hoping for!!!!

SO STOP BEING A WANKER AND STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!!!! GO TO THE MEETINGS!!!

zenspearo · 05-19-2009, 11:59 AM

Howdy fellow kayakers.

We have 26 spearos signed up to go to the meeting to speak out against closures.

http://spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=84279

I am hoping to have more kayak fishermen there so as to have another consumptive group outdo spearos (thus shaming even more spearos into showing up at future meetings).

We won't be caught off guard like what happened in Norcal.

By the way...a hearty thanks to everyone. It's going to be nice to be in a meeting room with a lot of friendlies... Black shirt everyone.

You guys rock!

Gino · 05-19-2009, 10:56 PM

was great hearing from all the kayak fisherman here. Ill be attending the thursday may 21st as well!

Billy V · 05-20-2009, 12:08 AM

I just got home as well, and will post more on the subject tomorrow.

-This fight is not over.

200 People stepped UP and spoke, its still going on right now.

Corey · 05-20-2009, 12:30 AM

We did not make it to the end, but lasted until 11:30.

Thanks to all of you guys that came out tonight. I feel like we were well represented and did a good job of getting our point across, repeatedly.

if we keep speaking up, we may just end up with something liveable like propsal A or B. If we sit on our hands we are sure to regret it later. We are making progress.

It's not over by a long shot, so who's headed up on Thursday?

05-18-2009, 10:00 AM	#1
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Not even 25 guys? This is serious. I saw more than 25 kayaks fishing this weekend. What about representitives from OEX, FastLane, AYS? What about the kayak guides and website purveyors? For some of us it's a hobby and way of life. For you guys it is a business too. Don't make me name names. Are you going to show up? __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

05-18-2009, 10:27 AM	#3
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	And this was mentioned on BD... Everyone wear Black. Black tshirt, black dress shirt, black jacket... Just make sure it is black. All fisherman, whether Kayak, H&L, and spearfisherman wear black. That way they can see how many of us there (hopefuly) are. Writing letters, and donating money is the easy way out. Do things on their time, not your own to show how much you care. Show up. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

05-19-2009, 01:09 AM	#9
Matt Support your local pangas Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lj Posts: 976	The battle lines have been drawn and by standing by and not taking action you are doing exactly what the pro-MLPA people are hoping for!!!! SO STOP BEING A WANKER AND STAND UP AND BE COUNTED!!!! GO TO THE MEETINGS!!! __________________ Thanks Matt F.

05-20-2009, 12:30 AM	#13
Corey Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: ...waaaay out there Posts: 794	We did not make it to the end, but lasted until 11:30. Thanks to all of you guys that came out tonight. I feel like we were well represented and did a good job of getting our point across, repeatedly. if we keep speaking up, we may just end up with something liveable like propsal A or B. If we sit on our hands we are sure to regret it later. We are making progress. It's not over by a long shot, so who's headed up on Thursday? __________________

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05-18-2009, 10:10 AM	#2
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Guys n gals, read this, to help you get your thoughts, and comments together. Remember if you do not feel like speaking showing up to support your RSG in numbers is very crucial, and you can cede your time to others. Suggestions for Effective Public Comment: Public participation is one of the cornerstones of the California Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) Initiative and is greatly valued. One method for participating in the process is by making comments at public meetings. A short list of recommendations has been prepared to help maximize the effectiveness of public comments: 1. Generally comments must be made within a one to three minute time period. The length of time allocated to each speaker is at the discretion of the meeting convener and depends on several factors, including the number of individuals wishing to speak on a particular topic. 2. Speakers should identify themselves by name, indicate their main interest or connection to the ocean (if desired), and succinctly summarize their main message with as much specificity as possible. It is most effective to keep your verbal message to no more than three main points and then provide details about those points, or additional information, in a written document. 3. Comments should focus on topics under the purview of the Marine Life Protection Act (MLPA) and that are under consideration by the MLPA group you are addressing: a. Policy comments and overarching planning issues for the Blue Ribbon Task Force (BRTF). b. Science comments for the Science Advisory Team (SAT). c. Comments on marine protected area (MPA) design and placement for the Regional Stakeholder Group (RSG). 4. When preparing comments, it is very helpful to consider the key points you wish to have the group members bear in mind as they do their work or make decisions. 5. Multiple speakers with a shared message or from the same organization are encouraged and will be requested to combine their speaking points. 6. Questions or comments can be submitted in writing via email ( MLPAComments@resources.ca.gov) or standard mail (MLPA Initiative, c/o California Natural Resources Agency, 1416 Ninth Street, Suite 1311, Sacramento, CA 95814) are distributed to the MLPA Initiative groups and posted on the MLPA website. 7. There will be an opportunity for public comment at each public meeting; for two-day meetings, comment may only be taken on one of the two days. Meeting agendas will denote when public comment is expected to occur, though please note that these times are only an approximation. Work sessions are not public meetings and do not have a public comment period. 8. Speakers are welcome to distribute written material to the groups. If materials are submitted at least three business days in advance of a meeting, they will be copied by MLPA staff and provided to the group members; if materials are received less than three business days in advance of a meeting, you must provide a sufficient number of copies for distribution, otherwise staff will copy and distribute the information after the meeting. Other media presentations, such as slides and videos, are only permitted by prior arrangement and may be limited depending on time availability. An alternate space in the venue may be provided for displaying the speaker's additional media information or written materials, as needed.

05-18-2009, 11:04 AM	#4
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	What time is the San Diego group leaving for the meeting on the 19th ?? I am trying to arrange my schedule to attempt this meeting. Thanks

05-18-2009, 03:20 PM	#6
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	We are game on...thanks Chris for staying on top of this... Don't know what Clay will say this time, but it comes from within. Maybe he will touch on the fact that is a safe launch, even for kids. I am humbled (and outshined...) just for the main fact that a 9 yr old understands the importance of being heard. And this time, he doesn't get to miss school yet still wants to go...safe to say he understands what is at stake... See all of you there manana... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

05-18-2009, 06:46 PM	#7
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	BUMP!!!!!!!!

05-19-2009, 11:59 AM	#10
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Howdy fellow kayakers. We have 26 spearos signed up to go to the meeting to speak out against closures. http://spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=84279 I am hoping to have more kayak fishermen there so as to have another consumptive group outdo spearos (thus shaming even more spearos into showing up at future meetings). We won't be caught off guard like what happened in Norcal. By the way...a hearty thanks to everyone. It's going to be nice to be in a meeting room with a lot of friendlies... Black shirt everyone. You guys rock!

05-19-2009, 10:56 PM	#11
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	was great hearing from all the kayak fisherman here. Ill be attending the thursday may 21st as well!

05-20-2009, 12:08 AM	#12
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	I just got home as well, and will post more on the subject tomorrow. -This fight is not over. 200 People stepped UP and spoke, its still going on right now.