(MLPA) Kayakers: Speak up from your home/office. SAT mtg May 5th and BRTF May 8th! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Tman · 05-04-2009, 02:42 PM

Clay and I are in, ya know that Chris.

Send me a PM, let me know how we can coordinate what we are to speak about.

I would like to touch on the issue brought up about kelp habitat being a decisive factor, and one thing really striked me as odd...LJ kep/habitat is bountiful, very diverse fishery, and with CP going to the dogs literally, you shut down LJ, the pinnipeds will have a field day. And once you have unlimited food supply, just imagine the consequences. Excess breeding will bring serious ramifications; look what the pinnipeds did to CP. Wiped out the fish population, and polluted the water.

And once the pinniped population is to the point of being out of control, something will come in and thin the herds. When they have no human competition, the only apex predator for them to combat with will be GW's.

Now, I'm all for GW's. Top of the food chain. But what are the swimmers, tourists, recreational divers and the likes, gonna say when we have a spate of GW attacks? Think of the CA mountain lion...at one point, deer were plentiful. They grew in numbers, decimated the deer population, and focused their meals elsewhere, mainly the ranchers' stocks. What happens once the LJ fishery is depleted by the pinnipeds? It will be a field day for the GW's, who will go after the pinnipeds, since their comsumptives are depleted. Do they plan to declare an open moratorium on GW's?

I really don't think that this closure is being thought of in regards to future ramifications. I think they are more concerned with getting an early victory, and adjusting their strategy as each new obstacle is presented before them, with no thought of the consequences of their actions.

Just my dos centavos....

SeaDog · 05-04-2009, 10:59 PM

I'm in; let me know if we're coordinating our efforts.

For any of the kayak fishermen out there who have not yet joined the effort, please start now while there is still time. To those that are representing us and those that our organizing the information, thank you for your time and effort.

tylerdurden · 05-05-2009, 01:15 PM

Couldn't get on the phone from work today. Any one else have an issue. I did get to the phone a little late though?

I can't watch via the web at work either. It's blocked.

Holy Mackerel · 05-05-2009, 01:25 PM

I couldn't download the software at work, someone on spearboard, posted another link for streaming audio, of course, work blocked it as well... Hope others could chime in!

PAL · 05-05-2009, 02:34 PM

Heck of a way to perform the public's business, isn't it?

esdees · 05-05-2009, 02:59 PM

I listened to the streaming audio when I could, starting after the break around 1:10. It seemed like they only answered one of the public questions. Is that normal, or did I just miss the answer portion of the question and answer?

tylerdurden · 05-05-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PAL

Heck of a way to perform the public's business, isn't it?

Yeah. Getting that feeling from going to the last meeting too. The only way I think to make a difference is to show HUGE turnout to convince them our side cares.

zenspearo · 05-06-2009, 12:12 PM

http://www.spearboard.com/showpost.p...90&postcount=6

Of course, the DFG MLPA website is still showing a May 8th meeting as of now.

But I called Sacramento and confirmed that it has been canceled.

So no May 8th MLPA BRTF telecon/meeting.

05-04-2009, 02:42 PM	#1
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Clay and I are in, ya know that Chris. Send me a PM, let me know how we can coordinate what we are to speak about. I would like to touch on the issue brought up about kelp habitat being a decisive factor, and one thing really striked me as odd...LJ kep/habitat is bountiful, very diverse fishery, and with CP going to the dogs literally, you shut down LJ, the pinnipeds will have a field day. And once you have unlimited food supply, just imagine the consequences. Excess breeding will bring serious ramifications; look what the pinnipeds did to CP. Wiped out the fish population, and polluted the water. And once the pinniped population is to the point of being out of control, something will come in and thin the herds. When they have no human competition, the only apex predator for them to combat with will be GW's. Now, I'm all for GW's. Top of the food chain. But what are the swimmers, tourists, recreational divers and the likes, gonna say when we have a spate of GW attacks? Think of the CA mountain lion...at one point, deer were plentiful. They grew in numbers, decimated the deer population, and focused their meals elsewhere, mainly the ranchers' stocks. What happens once the LJ fishery is depleted by the pinnipeds? It will be a field day for the GW's, who will go after the pinnipeds, since their comsumptives are depleted. Do they plan to declare an open moratorium on GW's? I really don't think that this closure is being thought of in regards to future ramifications. I think they are more concerned with getting an early victory, and adjusting their strategy as each new obstacle is presented before them, with no thought of the consequences of their actions. Just my dos centavos.... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

05-05-2009, 01:15 PM	#3
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Couldn't get on the phone from work today. Any one else have an issue. I did get to the phone a little late though? I can't watch via the web at work either. It's blocked. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

05-06-2009, 12:12 PM	#8
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	May 8th BRTF meeting postponed. http://www.spearboard.com/showpost.p...90&postcount=6 Of course, the DFG MLPA website is still showing a May 8th meeting as of now. But I called Sacramento and confirmed that it has been canceled. So no May 8th MLPA BRTF telecon/meeting.

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05-04-2009, 10:59 PM	#2
SeaDog Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Orange County Posts: 47	I'm in; let me know if we're coordinating our efforts. For any of the kayak fishermen out there who have not yet joined the effort, please start now while there is still time. To those that are representing us and those that our organizing the information, thank you for your time and effort.

05-05-2009, 01:25 PM	#4
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	I couldn't download the software at work, someone on spearboard, posted another link for streaming audio, of course, work blocked it as well... Hope others could chime in!

05-05-2009, 02:34 PM	#5
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Heck of a way to perform the public's business, isn't it?

05-05-2009, 02:59 PM	#6
esdees The Good Clone Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Clairemont Posts: 520	I listened to the streaming audio when I could, starting after the break around 1:10. It seemed like they only answered one of the public questions. Is that normal, or did I just miss the answer portion of the question and answer?