Minn Kota Trolling Motor - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

TCS · 10-16-2018, 11:03 AM

I've been waiting for the industry to develop a modern, simple, affordable trolling motor for hobie kayaks. The feedback I've heard on Torqueedo has been pretty mixed and seems to always include reports of on the water failures.

I've looked at Bixby Jet and it just seems primitive compared to the highly developed products for boats and skiffs. I'm wondering if anybody's considered converting something like this for a drive well mount:

https://minnkotamotors.johnsonoutdoo...e-engine-mount

Or...what else you've heard about a robust, modern, easy to use, affordable solution that might be coming down the pike.

Tom

Saba Slayer · 10-16-2018, 11:59 AM

I’ve tried a DIY Motorguide trolling motor with a mirag drive cassette and a group 24 battery mounted behind the seat on the PA.
It worked great although clunky and heavy...
I tried the Watersnake motor with a Hobie cassette mount when it came out a few years ago...smaller but less options on speeds and it’s pretty cheesy in the manufacturing
I’m now running the Bixpy motors in both my 2 Pro Anglers and my Adventure Island
The battery system is pretty cool and the mount options for the motor are pretty varied.
I’m sold on this motor as both affordable and efficient.

PapaDave · 10-16-2018, 01:35 PM

I took a Minnkota Riptide 55lb and modified it for my PA17 fitting it in one of the peddle slots. Using a large battery. Clunky and heavy but it moves.

Warning, you will void the warrantee doing what I did.

jacksonbigtuna · 10-16-2018, 06:56 PM

I rigged up a minnkota 55lb thrust then a 35lb for one year on my jacksonbigtuna. The problem is stored energy. Lead acid batteries are heavy. If you want to run the trolling motor for 6-8 hours a day for a full morning of fishing, you'll need a lot of battery. I ended up lugging around two batteries. Pretty lame. The only good thing is that the equipment was cheap.

On the other hand, the lighter batteries.....lithium ion.... are expensive and still don't store a lot of energy. I think they have about 5 times the energy density than a lead acid battery. Seems like a lot and would probably suffice for a whole day of fishing, but they are sooo expensive.

I don't think there will be an inexpensive option coming down the pipeline. Unless of course lithium batteries get cheaper and even lighter...

I ended up getting a tandem island and a used 2 stroke for 200 dollars to use for trolling. Gasoline has about 50 times the energy density than batteries. I use maybe a gallon of gas each time I go out.

flyfishinsteve64 · 10-17-2018, 08:55 AM

Why not buy a boat??? To me kayaking is about stealth. Start putting motors on it now you have a boat. Just doesn't make sense to me but that ok . Carry On

TCS · 10-17-2018, 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyfishinsteve64

Why not buy a boat??? To me kayaking is about stealth. Start putting motors on it now you have a boat. Just doesn't make sense to me but that ok . Carry On

The reason I would like a motor is to increase my range as I get pretty tired by the end of the day. The main reason I don't get a skiff is related to storage and transportation. I like storing my revo on the side of my house and throwing it on top of the car for trips. If I motorize I might also upgrade to a PA, but I think I could still car-top it and do side yard storage. If I graduate to anything that requires a trailer then I have to figure out where to park it and I don't have a good solution where I live. Also, I would think that a kayak with electric motor would still be very stealthy.

spudleydoright · 10-21-2018, 05:31 PM

Keep in mind that once you put any type of motor on your kayak it then has to be registered in order to be legal. I know in Newport it will also limit where you can legally launch as all the regular spots say "Human Powered" on the regulatory signs.

Saba Slayer · 10-22-2018, 08:34 AM

It's no big deal to go to AAA and get your kayak registered for CF numbers...and once it's done its only about $15 a year after that and it's all done by mail...Use your paddle to launch then when out of the no power zone...drop in your motor...easy peazy...

Quote:

Originally Posted by spudleydoright

Keep in mind that once you put any type of motor on your kayak it then has to be registered in order to be legal. I know in Newport it will also limit where you can legally launch as all the regular spots say "Human Powered" on the regulatory signs.

Hank · 10-23-2018, 04:57 AM

I used to disagree but now I see there's some truth to what you say

. By the way, I miss boating but my motor is quite old... I'll be grabbing these: https://under-the-open-sky.com/best-...otor-batteries just to be on the safe side.

randman · 10-24-2018, 09:48 AM

an interesting question. I too was looking for it

10-16-2018, 11:03 AM	#1
TCS Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 478	Minn Kota Trolling Motor I've been waiting for the industry to develop a modern, simple, affordable trolling motor for hobie kayaks. The feedback I've heard on Torqueedo has been pretty mixed and seems to always include reports of on the water failures. I've looked at Bixby Jet and it just seems primitive compared to the highly developed products for boats and skiffs. I'm wondering if anybody's considered converting something like this for a drive well mount: https://minnkotamotors.johnsonoutdoo...e-engine-mount Or...what else you've heard about a robust, modern, easy to use, affordable solution that might be coming down the pike. Tom

10-16-2018, 11:59 AM	#2
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,855	Motor I’ve tried a DIY Motorguide trolling motor with a mirag drive cassette and a group 24 battery mounted behind the seat on the PA. It worked great although clunky and heavy... I tried the Watersnake motor with a Hobie cassette mount when it came out a few years ago...smaller but less options on speeds and it’s pretty cheesy in the manufacturing I’m now running the Bixpy motors in both my 2 Pro Anglers and my Adventure Island The battery system is pretty cool and the mount options for the motor are pretty varied. I’m sold on this motor as both affordable and efficient. __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

10-16-2018, 01:35 PM	#3
PapaDave Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Menifee, CA Posts: 1,473	I took a Minnkota Riptide 55lb and modified it for my PA17 fitting it in one of the peddle slots. Using a large battery. Clunky and heavy but it moves. Warning, you will void the warrantee doing what I did. __________________ So long and thanks for all the fish...

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10-16-2018, 06:56 PM	#4
jacksonbigtuna Junior Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 14	I rigged up a minnkota 55lb thrust then a 35lb for one year on my jacksonbigtuna. The problem is stored energy. Lead acid batteries are heavy. If you want to run the trolling motor for 6-8 hours a day for a full morning of fishing, you'll need a lot of battery. I ended up lugging around two batteries. Pretty lame. The only good thing is that the equipment was cheap. On the other hand, the lighter batteries.....lithium ion.... are expensive and still don't store a lot of energy. I think they have about 5 times the energy density than a lead acid battery. Seems like a lot and would probably suffice for a whole day of fishing, but they are sooo expensive. I don't think there will be an inexpensive option coming down the pipeline. Unless of course lithium batteries get cheaper and even lighter... I ended up getting a tandem island and a used 2 stroke for 200 dollars to use for trolling. Gasoline has about 50 times the energy density than batteries. I use maybe a gallon of gas each time I go out.

10-17-2018, 08:55 AM	#5
flyfishinsteve64 Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: santee ca. Posts: 57	Why not buy a boat??? To me kayaking is about stealth. Start putting motors on it now you have a boat. Just doesn't make sense to me but that ok . Carry On

10-21-2018, 05:31 PM	#7
spudleydoright Junior Join Date: May 2017 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 18	Keep in mind that once you put any type of motor on your kayak it then has to be registered in order to be legal. I know in Newport it will also limit where you can legally launch as all the regular spots say "Human Powered" on the regulatory signs.

10-23-2018, 04:57 AM	#9
Hank Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 1	I used to disagree but now I see there's some truth to what you say . By the way, I miss boating but my motor is quite old... I'll be grabbing these: https://under-the-open-sky.com/best-...otor-batteries just to be on the safe side.

10-24-2018, 09:48 AM	#10
randman Banned Join Date: Oct 2018 Posts: 5	an interesting question. I too was looking for it