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monstahfish · 12-13-2017, 12:02 PM

Might not be actually good news. Last I read on this, and it was a few months ago, the flexibility they're touting now meant delaying action on protecting declining stocks so large commercial fisheries could continue unchecked until things reached critical mass. It's important for people to realize that reducing quotas early on when there are still plenty of fish to reproduce is much preferable to fishing them to the brink and having to close the fishery for 10 years.

goldenglory18 · 12-13-2017, 03:21 PM

Layman's terms?

Saba Slayer · 12-13-2017, 04:39 PM

IMHO it's a good thing especially when...
A coalition of organizations representing the saltwater recreational fishing and boating community endorsed H.R. 200 and highlighted the importance of incorporating saltwater recreational fishing management provisions into the nation’s primary law governing federal fisheries management.
If these anglers are supporting H.R. 200, then I'm behind it 100%...Jeff Angers, president of the Center for Sportfishing Policy...Mike Nussman, president and CEO of the American Sportfishing Association...Thom Dammrich, president of the National Marine Manufacturers Association...Patrick Murray, president of Coastal Conservation Association...Jeff Crane, president of the Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation...and...Jim Donofrio, president of the Recreational Fishing Alliance.

The bill aims to benefit fishing access and conservation by incorporating modern management approaches, science and technology to guide decision-making.

THIS IS THE PRIMARY POINT IN MY OPINION...
“America’s 11 million saltwater anglers have a $63 billion economic impact annually and generate 440,000 jobs, However, recreational fishing has been treated as an afterthought in the federal fisheries management system for decades. IF ENACTED, H.R. 200 WOULD FINALLY GIVE SALTWATER RECREATIONAL FISHING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES IN THE MAGNUSON-STEVENS ACT.”

Mahigeer · 12-13-2017, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenglory18

Layman's terms?

Thanks.

goldenglory18 · 12-14-2017, 05:57 AM

Quote:

The bill aims to benefit fishing access and conservation by incorporating modern management approaches, science and technology to guide decision-making.

That's the winning line right there....

domtesta27 · 12-14-2017, 03:13 PM

See this is kinda my problem with Politics today. Democrat and Republican.

That is literally 18 full paragraphs of "explaining" how great this bill is and why it should be supported, with literally zero explanation of what's actually in the bill, what kinds of actual changes will be made, and what science is behind it.

Its great that its supported by different coalitions, but if I want to get any answers or try and make up my own mind, I have to try and read through dozens if not hundreds of pages of "political" or "legal" jargon in a bill or amendment and I'm left with more questions than answers.

All I got was "theyre gonna start treating the recreational fisherman different from commercial fisherman"

ok that sounds great on the surface but it doesn't explain what they actually plan to do. It could end up being horrific for the recreation angler and allow the commercial guys to destroy this precious resource more than they already are.

Its like saying "The Patriot Act" sounds really patriotic, lets go ahead and support that before we read it.

12-13-2017, 04:39 PM	#3
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,878	Good Thing... IMHO it's a good thing especially when... A coalition of organizations representing the saltwater recreational fishing and boating community endorsed H.R. 200 and highlighted the importance of incorporating saltwater recreational fishing management provisions into the nation’s primary law governing federal fisheries management. If these anglers are supporting H.R. 200, then I'm behind it 100%...Jeff Angers, president of the Center for Sportfishing Policy...Mike Nussman, president and CEO of the American Sportfishing Association...Thom Dammrich, president of the National Marine Manufacturers Association...Patrick Murray, president of Coastal Conservation Association...Jeff Crane, president of the Congressional Sportsmen’s Foundation...and...Jim Donofrio, president of the Recreational Fishing Alliance. The bill aims to benefit fishing access and conservation by incorporating modern management approaches, science and technology to guide decision-making. THIS IS THE PRIMARY POINT IN MY OPINION... “America’s 11 million saltwater anglers have a $63 billion economic impact annually and generate 440,000 jobs, However, recreational fishing has been treated as an afterthought in the federal fisheries management system for decades. IF ENACTED, H.R. 200 WOULD FINALLY GIVE SALTWATER RECREATIONAL FISHING THE ATTENTION IT DESERVES IN THE MAGNUSON-STEVENS ACT.” __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

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12-13-2017, 12:02 PM	#1
monstahfish Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 429	Might not be actually good news. Last I read on this, and it was a few months ago, the flexibility they're touting now meant delaying action on protecting declining stocks so large commercial fisheries could continue unchecked until things reached critical mass. It's important for people to realize that reducing quotas early on when there are still plenty of fish to reproduce is much preferable to fishing them to the brink and having to close the fishery for 10 years.

12-13-2017, 03:21 PM	#2
goldenglory18 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 861	Layman's terms?

12-14-2017, 03:13 PM	#6
domtesta27 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Ventura, Ca Posts: 111	See this is kinda my problem with Politics today. Democrat and Republican. That is literally 18 full paragraphs of "explaining" how great this bill is and why it should be supported, with literally zero explanation of what's actually in the bill, what kinds of actual changes will be made, and what science is behind it. Its great that its supported by different coalitions, but if I want to get any answers or try and make up my own mind, I have to try and read through dozens if not hundreds of pages of "political" or "legal" jargon in a bill or amendment and I'm left with more questions than answers. All I got was "theyre gonna start treating the recreational fisherman different from commercial fisherman" ok that sounds great on the surface but it doesn't explain what they actually plan to do. It could end up being horrific for the recreation angler and allow the commercial guys to destroy this precious resource more than they already are. Its like saying "The Patriot Act" sounds really patriotic, lets go ahead and support that before we read it.