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Holy Mackerel · 12-23-2005, 07:41 AM

Nice freaking Croaker!!!

Chris

swinginFish · 12-23-2005, 07:43 AM

Congratulations on a great catch!

Appreciate your referencing "luck over skill," but landing a fish of that size in any way requires that you keep your wits. Very nice, entertaining write up. Thanks.

As for the head stones, they're interesting, but not relevant to the referenced Hubbs/Seaworld research/replenishment project. For those interested, see the following website (http://www.hswri.org/research/resear...m.cfm?reaID=27). Better yet, call and arrange a tour.

In short, the raised and released WSB's have small ID tags inserted in their cheeks, and by bringing in the head of a caught WSB, the researchers can determine if there's a tag and, if so, gather all kinds of important data (e.g., Info. on age and migration patterns). If you look at their site, there's a link to another that notes WSB head drop off locations.

BTW: This WSB project is funded in part by the DFG, and will receive some of the funds raised by next year's WCW tournament.

Now go catch another!

Avery

Ed · 12-23-2005, 08:15 AM

FYI -

The ear stones are called otoliths and can be used to age fish.

tattuna · 12-23-2005, 08:17 AM

Great story and awesome catch!!! Congrats on pulling it off without a gaff!

lamb · 12-23-2005, 09:05 AM

Great catch, congrats!

I hear one of those could steer the things up in WCW top 3 – big time!

On WSB Scripps research program – yes, they are collecting heads hoping to find the tags. Very nice bunch of cool scientist guys, Brad’s cousins.

When I was there the last time, it didn’t come across to me they don’t care about the stones from the head. They actually gently indicated they are very interested in analyzing the stones, as they get a ton of valuable information from them. They just know that fishermen like to keep WSB stones as a trophy, so they don’t advertise it fearing people would not be turning in the heads, that possibly have the tags if fish came from the program. Very, very few fish turned in actually have the tag.

If I ever catch my next WSB, they’ll be getting the stones too.

Dean Machine · 12-23-2005, 10:04 AM

:shock: SWEET fish!!! Congratulations, I am still waiting for my first legal wsb. Great story!

steveooo · 12-23-2005, 11:56 AM

ops: Doh!
I didnt know about the head hunter program so I hacked my head with a hatchet to get the stones.
But I called Tim Conerty from the program and he was pretty cool and said he still wants it so Im going dumpster diving right now. 8)
Basically the program finds out how many hatchery fish are caught through a cheek implant, plus it can track migration ect.

Gabe, the guy at the sportfishing shop said 2 things. 1) "you were lucky there is no kelp right now" I metered only two 15ft strands the whole time I was out. My question still stands; is kelp seasonal? 2) "...when Gabe caught his fish..." came out in about every other sentence!!! You are a friggen celebrity man!!!

Thanks for the comments everyone
-steve

twinfin · 12-23-2005, 12:43 PM

Not bad for a Canook

What an amazing catch! Great job

PEMEX · 12-23-2005, 04:30 PM

The heads can be turned in at some tackle shops and landings also. They will be frozen and turned in for research purposes. I don't know which ones off the top of my head, but if you get one drop by your local tackle shop and ask if they participate. Just don't tell themexactly where, and how you cought the fish because they will repeat it to everyone and their mother!

JimPat · 12-23-2005, 08:54 PM

Good to know that they wnat the whole head vice the stones. Of course we will have to wait until I catch one for any of that to matter for me, but I am thinking that I will try and arrange one of those tours that was mentioned.

For those that celebrate, Merry Christmas!!

k2rick · 12-23-2005, 10:31 PM

the reason i was asking was that i found one on my hook about 2 weeks ago while fishing the west bouy by the harbour mouth in dp. i had no idea what it was, as a matter of fact it kind of freaked me out, i thought it was some kind of fish tongue.

btw how deep were u fishing and what area was it?

12-23-2005, 07:43 AM	#22
swinginFish Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 173	WSB Congratulations on a great catch! Appreciate your referencing "luck over skill," but landing a fish of that size in any way requires that you keep your wits. Very nice, entertaining write up. Thanks. As for the head stones, they're interesting, but not relevant to the referenced Hubbs/Seaworld research/replenishment project. For those interested, see the following website (http://www.hswri.org/research/resear...m.cfm?reaID=27). Better yet, call and arrange a tour. In short, the raised and released WSB's have small ID tags inserted in their cheeks, and by bringing in the head of a caught WSB, the researchers can determine if there's a tag and, if so, gather all kinds of important data (e.g., Info. on age and migration patterns). If you look at their site, there's a link to another that notes WSB head drop off locations. BTW: This WSB project is funded in part by the DFG, and will receive some of the funds raised by next year's WCW tournament. Now go catch another! Avery

12-23-2005, 09:05 AM	#25
lamb Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,568	Great catch, congrats! I hear one of those could steer the things up in WCW top 3 – big time! On WSB Scripps research program – yes, they are collecting heads hoping to find the tags. Very nice bunch of cool scientist guys, Brad’s cousins. When I was there the last time, it didn’t come across to me they don’t care about the stones from the head. They actually gently indicated they are very interested in analyzing the stones, as they get a ton of valuable information from them. They just know that fishermen like to keep WSB stones as a trophy, so they don’t advertise it fearing people would not be turning in the heads, that possibly have the tags if fish came from the program. Very, very few fish turned in actually have the tag. If I ever catch my next WSB, they’ll be getting the stones too. __________________ [------------------------ <)))< ....b-a-a-a-a

12-23-2005, 10:04 AM	#26
Dean Machine Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: San Clemente Posts: 162	:shock: SWEET fish!!! Congratulations, I am still waiting for my first legal wsb. Great story! __________________ "Good luck and tight lines!"

12-23-2005, 08:54 PM	#30
JimPat Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: San Diego (La Mesa) Posts: 54	Thanks for the clarification Good to know that they wnat the whole head vice the stones. Of course we will have to wait until I catch one for any of that to matter for me, but I am thinking that I will try and arrange one of those tours that was mentioned. For those that celebrate, Merry Christmas!!

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12-23-2005, 07:41 AM	#21
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Nice freaking Croaker!!! Chris

12-23-2005, 08:15 AM	#23
Ed Fringe Head Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Drippin Chicken Water Ranch Posts: 140	FYI - The ear stones are called otoliths and can be used to age fish.

12-23-2005, 08:17 AM	#24
tattuna Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pasadena Posts: 329	Great story and awesome catch!!! Congrats on pulling it off without a gaff!

12-23-2005, 11:56 AM	#27
steveooo Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 1,921	ops: Doh! I didnt know about the head hunter program so I hacked my head with a hatchet to get the stones. But I called Tim Conerty from the program and he was pretty cool and said he still wants it so Im going dumpster diving right now. 8) Basically the program finds out how many hatchery fish are caught through a cheek implant, plus it can track migration ect. Gabe, the guy at the sportfishing shop said 2 things. 1) "you were lucky there is no kelp right now" I metered only two 15ft strands the whole time I was out. My question still stands; is kelp seasonal? 2) "...when Gabe caught his fish..." came out in about every other sentence!!! You are a friggen celebrity man!!! Thanks for the comments everyone -steve

12-23-2005, 12:43 PM	#28
twinfin Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 121	Not bad for a Canook What an amazing catch! Great job

12-23-2005, 04:30 PM	#29
PEMEX Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 34	The heads can be turned in at some tackle shops and landings also. They will be frozen and turned in for research purposes. I don't know which ones off the top of my head, but if you get one drop by your local tackle shop and ask if they participate. Just don't tell themexactly where, and how you cought the fish because they will repeat it to everyone and their mother!

12-23-2005, 10:31 PM	#31
k2rick Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 11	the reason i was asking was that i found one on my hook about 2 weeks ago while fishing the west bouy by the harbour mouth in dp. i had no idea what it was, as a matter of fact it kind of freaked me out, i thought it was some kind of fish tongue. btw how deep were u fishing and what area was it?