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04-09-2015, 10:01 AM | #21 |
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Still worth the upgrade
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04-09-2015, 05:36 PM | #22 |
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Hey Tony,
With the new drive are the turbo fins really necessary now? FFY |
04-09-2015, 05:38 PM | #23 |
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I think so! If you got the PA get the turbofins.
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04-09-2015, 05:57 PM | #24 |
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I can only handle the Outback Tony.
My back injuries (even if I opt for surgery) limits my carrying ability and the PA's are "TANKS"! They are too big for me to handle (I'm only 5'5"). I'm unable to load/unload one (on my Escape) and don't have a truck to transport (Ladder rack) and I don't care for trailering. I was just wondering if I could get away with just the standard fins when I finally order a new Outback (I plan on ordering an extra Mirage Drive with mine and a repair kit on the off chance anything happens when I finally make a trip with Bob to Gonzaga). FFY |
04-09-2015, 06:00 PM | #25 |
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Definitely get the turbo fins. When I upgraded my 2013 revo from stock to turbo, I was kicking myself for not doing it sooner. It's going to cause a little more resistance with each stroke, but that thing was a rocket after the turbo fins. I almost tried racing the new seaforth once.
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04-09-2015, 06:24 PM | #26 |
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Thanks for the info Brandon.
I've had the Turbos on my 2013 from the beginning and don't know/remember what it's like to not have them (then again I haven't been out on my Outback since I last went out to "The Lagoon" @ Castaic to dial in the FF back in July of 2013.) I thought that I might not need them with the improvement to the Drive. Maybe I'll only upgrade one of the drives (and regret it later, I know!) and borrow from the 2013 unless I decide to sell it. I was just trying to save a little $ (penny save, pound foolish I know). Appreciate the insight though Brandon. FFY |
04-09-2015, 09:58 PM | #27 |
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Roby has the new outback + the new drive with the standard st fins...and he likes it, a little bit slower but almost no resistance when pedaling compared to the st turbo fins. Me personally I like to have some resistance there...I tried his turbo fins and I tell ya....it felt like pedaling masts with no fins! They will get you moving though, you just have to have a faster cadence.
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04-10-2015, 08:09 AM | #28 |
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New Drive
Thanks for your report Tony very good and detailed. Missed it the first time it was posted. Will be giving Andy a call Thanks again.
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04-10-2015, 03:53 PM | #29 | |
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04-10-2015, 04:37 PM | #30 |
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Hey Sven, lip ripper posted a pretty good tutorial for replacing the parts. One thing I can say when installing is Very careful to not let every needle in the bearings to fall out when pushing it. But if they do, and they might, add a bunch of marine grease to keep them stuck on the outside of the hole.
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04-10-2015, 06:00 PM | #31 | |
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04-10-2015, 06:54 PM | #32 |
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FFY, TURBO fins all the way.
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04-10-2015, 08:21 PM | #33 |
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Just picked up the new mirage drive/Revo from Andy today and after reading this post can't wait to get on the water and give it a go. Definitely seems smoother just by moving them with my hands.
Thank you again Andy for putting together another kayak for me .
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04-12-2015, 11:48 AM | #34 |
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For you guys doing the upgrade to you older drives, I would closely examine the drum shaft for wear.
If you see any wear, I would seriously consider replacing it with a new one so your drive will be like new and not just "reconditioned" I've heard it said that you can knock out the shaft and rotate it. This is okay for the bushing models, but with needle bearings, you want the close tolerance between the bearing and shaft My drive is only 1 1/2 yrs old and I was surprised how much wear had occured in that short amount of time when I took it apart to lube it. If I sound like I'm full of it, I've been a machinist since 1979
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