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Old 06-11-2014, 04:43 PM   #1
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Ha! Here's what I do besides relying on others to give it up...
Ask myself..."now Jim, where have the squids beds been in past years?"

Watch the sport boats counts and see target fish in any quantity or planned late night trips in the schedule.

And at times, when guys like Greg just won't give up what they worked so hard to find on their own...just before dusk, I'll scream out at home really loud so everyone can hear me at one time: "Does anyone want to go for a ride with me?" I always get crickets and closed bedroom doors...because they know that means I'm driving the coast in the dark looking for groups of poorly lit boats huddled together. And if any lights are green...BINGO! I'll then scan the area and ask myself: Jim, do you have the balls to launch anywhere near here to check this out in more detail?

And you wonder why some guys will always hook up and some just DON'T!



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Old 06-11-2014, 05:14 PM   #2
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And you wonder why some guys will always hook up and some just DON'T!



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Old 06-11-2014, 05:14 PM   #3
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Thanks Jim.

I thought part of being on a forum is to share some info and not just to come get high fives when you do finally hook something to benefit the "community". If not then again like others have said it's not a report and more of a "here is what I can do".

I'm not asking for specific spots that no one else knows and people discovered themselves. I just asked where the squid beds are in general. Could of said outside of Oceanside, redondo or Zimbabwe and that would of at least pointed me in some direction. What is the point of any forums if that little info is not even shared. Heck even BD reports will indicate the days and area and most here think boaters are ###. Yet a kayak community won't even share that much with each other ? I have met guys at launches who won't post anymore and also those that post delayed post and I just don't understand it but I don't insist or tell them otherwise. I appreciate the info I get and share what little I know.

I can tell you this much that the day I actually catch something decent I will be posting it as 2 years ago I had no clue what I was doing on a kayak and these days I'm much more confident due to others showing me the ropes. I wish I could say I learned much from the post on here but really all I learned is how to pose when I get a trophy fish and how to smudge out the background and wait a few weeks . (Not all reports are like that and for the good ones I say THANK YOU).

Ironic we are ok watching and chasing sports and private boaters which is pretty much poaching there efforts but god forbid we share info among this group with a common hobby. Are we competing against each other for some unknown prize I'm not aware of or do we view each other as comrades. I would be happy to see you guys catch a trophy from info I provide or fish among others in good areas even if I skunk it. (And trust me I have many times)

Btw heard good things about you Jim from a buddy so don't take any of this in your direction. You just happen to have the balls to respond first! Lol

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Ha! Here's what I do besides relying on others to give it up...
Ask myself..."now Jim, where have the squids beds been in past years?"

Watch the sport boats counts and see target fish in any quantity or planned late night trips in the schedule.

And at times, when guys like Greg just won't give up what they worked so hard to find on their own...just before dusk, I'll scream out at home really loud so everyone can hear me at one time: "Does anyone want to go for a ride with me?" I always get crickets and closed bedroom doors...because they know that means I'm driving the coast in the dark looking for groups of poorly lit boats huddled together. And if any lights are green...BINGO! I'll then scan the area and ask myself: Jim, do you have the balls to launch anywhere near here to check this out in more detail?
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:27 AM   #4
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Greg, can you share location? Nothing specific just wanted to find out where squid is as we have nada down here and trust me we jig for them everytime we are out.
Many of you don't know this but Greg fishes at least 4-5 times more than the rest of us

He fishes multiple days up and down the coast

He provides intel to a very small group, I mean really small. Fortunately, I am one of them

He has never asked for anything in return

When he's not fishing he spends hours looking at videos

He'll take you fishing and still buy you lunch

Rarely is he rewarded with fish

Yet day after day and week and week he's out there on the hunt


If you want to know where the fish are, get out there and find them. Don't sit back and wait for the information to fall on your lap because its not.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:47 AM   #5
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Nice video!

If any of you read any of the swimbait sites such as swimbaitunderground.com or swimbaituniverse on facebook, there's a small bunch of guys who have figured out the "camera in front of the bait" deal and they're getting some really sick footage.
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:50 AM   #6
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Old 06-11-2014, 05:32 PM   #7
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I agree with you about going out there and fishing. The assumptions being made is that others don't and just rely on others or reports. I fish 2-3 times a week these days and for 6 to 12 hours at a time. I fish mostly one area cause I don't know many guys and frankly don't know many areas yet which is why I am on this forum.

I'm sure Greg is a great guy and this is not anything specifically towards him but in general as from what I hear from multiple guys this used to be a more share friendly community. I hope you veterans can think back to when you started how much you appreciated the good reports that you took something away from and improved your game.

I have my own pains which is 3 years and no big fish yet you won't hear a peep out of me. Heck I even drowned twice and still go out the next day. But you know the day I catch # 1, 2 or number 60 I will post my report. If 30 kayakers decide to join me then cool. There is plenty of fish and doubt a small kayak community can cause more damage than the party boats do everyday.

In my humble opinion it's selfish to post a report but not want to share any any little info about it. Might as well not post and be a lurker the contribution is the same.

Most of us are not in some secret code group cause some can fish 90% more time than others but I would not dismiss the other 10% as really I'm sure they wish they could fish the 90% of the time.

And your right we do miss yakjoe.

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Many of you don't know this but Greg fishes at least 4-5 times more than the rest of us

He fishes multiple days up and down the coast

He provides intel to a very small group, I mean really small. Fortunately, I am one of them

He has never asked for anything in return

When he's not fishing he spends hours looking at videos

He'll take you fishing and still buy you lunch

Rarely is he rewarded with fish

Yet day after day and week and week he's out there on the hunt


If you want to know where the fish are, get out there and find them. Don't sit back and wait for the information to fall on your lap because its not.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:12 PM   #8
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Excellent job!!!

Great post and video Greg - ignore the haters
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:31 PM   #9
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momofish I can guarantee you that complaining about not getting dope is not going to get you more dope, or any dope at all.
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:26 PM   #10
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I agree with you about going out there and fishing. The assumptions being made is that others don't and just rely on others or reports. I fish 2-3 times a week these days and for 6 to 12 hours at a time. I fish mostly one area cause I don't know many guys and frankly don't know many areas yet which is why I am on this forum.

I'm sure Greg is a great guy and this is not anything specifically towards him but in general as from what I hear from multiple guys this used to be a more share friendly community. I hope you veterans can think back to when you started how much you appreciated the good reports that you took something away from and improved your game.

I have my own pains which is 3 years and no big fish yet you won't hear a peep out of me. Heck I even drowned twice and still go out the next day. But you know the day I catch # 1, 2 or number 60 I will post my report. If 30 kayakers decide to join me then cool. There is plenty of fish and doubt a small kayak community can cause more damage than the party boats do everyday.

In my humble opinion it's selfish to post a report but not want to share any any little info about it. Might as well not post and be a lurker the contribution is the same.

Most of us are not in some secret code group cause some can fish 90% more time than others but I would not dismiss the other 10% as really I'm sure they wish they could fish the 90% of the time.

And your right we do miss yakjoe.
I'll be the first to admit that I AM NOT a fishing veteran

However................

15 trips to LJ
200 miles round trip
up at 2am
home at 5pm
1 WSB

10 trips to Cabrillo
up at 4am
home at 4pm
1 barely legal halibut


Do you see the common denominator?
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Old 06-11-2014, 07:00 PM   #11
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Jorge I agree trust me. But you see what you just did? You actually provided some info instead of leaving it to be a shot in the dark.

And btw after chatting with you, YOU are a fishing vet. Lol. I took away good info about cabrillo and halibut fishing.

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I'll be the first to admit that I AM NOT a fishing veteran

However................

15 trips to LJ
200 miles round trip
up at 2am
home at 5pm
1 WSB

10 trips to Cabrillo
up at 4am
home at 4pm
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Do you see the common denominator?
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Old 06-11-2014, 06:36 PM   #12
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Many of you don't know this but Greg fishes at least 4-5 times more than the rest of us

He fishes multiple days up and down the coast

He provides intel to a very small group, I mean really small. Fortunately, I am one of them

He has never asked for anything in return

When he's not fishing he spends hours looking at videos

He'll take you fishing and still buy you lunch

Rarely is he rewarded with fish

Yet day after day and week and week he's out there on the hunt


If you want to know where the fish are, get out there and find them. Don't sit back and wait for the information to fall on your lap because its not.
I forgot to add that Greg has a full time job
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Old 06-12-2014, 07:50 AM   #13
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I forgot to add that Greg has a full time job
Wow - combine this with all his time on the water, all his fish, and his video production... I think I have a man-crush .
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Wow - combine this with all his time on the water, all his fish, and his video production... I think I have a man-crush .
Expressing your undying love for greg will not get you any dope either....

I think?
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Greg, can you share location? Nothing specific just wanted to find out where squid is as we have nada down here and trust me we jig for them everytime we are out.
There's some WSB and squid beds off of Izor's . If you can paddle out there make squid and catch fish....you earned it!
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There's some WSB and squid beds off of Izor's . If you can paddle out there make squid and catch fish....you earned it!
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Old 06-11-2014, 09:50 AM   #17
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I was on one of the beds yesterday and if you took away the 15 private boats, they are still very obvious. Keep an eye out for the Shearwaters which are sea birds about the size of a gull. They look very dark when flying but tan or brown sitting on the water. Gulls are also attracted to the beds but pelican's have very little interest in squid. Add a couple sea lions and you know you're in the right place. Hundreds of private boaters passed right over the spot that Greg found to get to another publicized spot. Greg is definitely the star here but time on the water is the secret.

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Thanks! Not sure what this area is but that's good info.

Squid out in Malibu does not seem to be happening and squid boats would come and spend a night and bail in morning. Seen them try a few different areas and when talking to them seems to be the same thing. Too small and very little right now.


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I was on one of the beds yesterday and if you took away the 15 private boats, they are still very obvious. Keep an eye out for the Shearwaters which are sea birds about the size of a gull. They look very dark when flying but tan or brown sitting on the water. Gulls are also attracted to the beds but pelican's have very little interest in squid. Add a couple sea lions and you know you're in the right place. Hundreds of private boaters passed right over the spot that Greg found to get to another publicized spot. Greg is definitely the star here but time on the water is the secret.

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Old 06-11-2014, 05:48 PM   #19
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One more comment about this topic since it came up. If you read the kayak forums up north it will be day and night difference. Everyone shares and more info seems to be shared with strangers. I posted something a while back under a different name when I made a trip up the coast and besides reading many helpful reports many offered to show me around and even lend me their kayaks so I didn't have to rent.

I have met great guys on here and always offer the same in return but seems most of the times you PM someone a question for tips and you get zero response. I know many feel the same as I do because I hear it everytime I meet a fellow BWE member but won't speak up as they would get flamed by a few more vocal responders. I sure hope you can prove me wrong and make this a better community for all.
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Had a good laugh after all of this when I picked up the mail and read this in WON. The headline is all the info I needed to start my search.



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