LJ 8/19

[nmbrinkman]

Originally Posted by madscientist

hmmmm.....I beg to differ. There are multiple spots that consistently hold bait. The can, the hump, canyon edges, etc. A blind devotion to the pier is not always the most economical or productive approach.

Didn't mean to give the idea that the pier was the only place to go but I would say throughout the year it is the most productive single spot. Although it has been slow for a while now.. Bait can also almost always be found in spots along the kelp.. unfortunetely that is a lot of kelp line to search.

[madscientist]

I think I went to the pier about 2% of the time my first year, and I always found bait in less time than it would have taken me to go all the way to the pier and then back out. There are other single spots that are just as good, if you spend the time to find them (the reef out from the condo, in 75ft, for instance). And having a series of pretty consistent spots is sometimes better than an all or nothing at the pier. All of the spots (pier included) are subject to changes with the seasons, water conditions, and who knows what other factors.

[nmbrinkman]

Don't get me wrong.. I 100% agree about the pier. I only occasionally go there and never rely on it... I as well have some productive spots. I'm sure not as many as you but they're usually productive nonetheless.. It's not hard to find bait most of the time.. It's just time OTW that will put you on bait without really having to think about it...

[sdjiricek]

Inside usually refers to anything inside of the line that extends straight out from the face of the big square condo.

Does that refer to a line straight out to sea or longshore? If it refers to straight out to sea then is "inside" North or South of that imaginary line? I'm having a hard time picturing it. A rough map would be A nice addition to the website excluding secret spots of course. I think that a good compass would be be a nice addition to my YAK.

I usually seem a few boats centered around a general area that I estimate is about 1-2 miles off the point at la Jolla Cove and maybe 1/2 to 1 mile south if you traced the shoreline. Does this area have a name and what is the general Makeup of that area (i.e. bottom makeup, currents, and depth)? It's kind of hard to visualize structure without a fishfinder and the last two times I was out the current was ripping and the kelp was laying down. Thanks again.

[esdees]

The "line" starts from the condo and goes northwest, the direction that the condo faces.

[h2ofishfo]

dud i go were i see the first bait start poppin on top never went 2 the pier 1nce & always mad bait just past the condos

[madscientist]

Originally Posted by esdees

The "line" starts from the condo and goes northwest, the direction that the condo faces.

Exactly. If you can see the eastern side of the condo, you are "inside". If you see the western side, you are "outside". If you just see the face, you are "straight out". There's a bit of a reef just inside of straight out, almost always has some bait on it. The spot with boats further W & S is most likely NW corner.

It's tough without a FF or GPS. Next time you're out and you find a good spot try to find some landmarks to triangulate off of. I even took a picture of the landmarks once for the Torrey reef when my GPS was down and a friend with one led me out there. Kept the pic stored on the camera so I could reference it when necessary.