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Old 02-02-2013, 11:18 PM   #1
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Old 02-02-2013, 11:30 PM   #2
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Wow....Makes me think twice about going out there. I have not popped my cherry yet. Need to work with the training wheels for a while.
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Old 02-03-2013, 01:04 AM   #3
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Seems like a cakewalk compared to the Dana point challenge outside the harbor
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:26 AM   #4
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Wow....Makes me think twice about going out there. I have not popped my cherry yet. Need to work with the training wheels for a while.
Dude, just make sure you check the weather reports, surf reports, and use your brain. If you're standing on the shore and don't feel comfortable with the conditions, don't paddle out. Be Smart.
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Old 02-03-2013, 08:49 AM   #5
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That really looked like it sucked! Hes lucky he was able to turn it back over...definitely a bad idea to go out that day and to have his seat cranked up all the way too...
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:00 AM   #6
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Too many perfect days in So Cal to go out when it's like that for me. I'm glad the dude is OK but he looked really unprepared for re-entering his boat. I have jumped (and fell ) in the drink at least a dozen times from a PA14 and my current PA12 and never turned it over like that. Practice knowing your boat and how to exit and enter it before you have to do it live. I learned that from Jim Sammons many years ago.
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Old 02-03-2013, 09:04 AM   #7
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That sux. I remember flipping my Revo out in La Jolla. I tried standing up in it to see what was chasing a school of bait fish. Standing and fishing in the Revo in SDB not so bad. standing in Revo to look at bait in La Jolla, complete and wet disaster! I had to swim down like 10' the fetch a run away rod as well. To make things better, it happened within secs of passing the yellow buoys! Luckily Uncle Paul had some dry clothes!
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Old 02-04-2013, 03:36 PM   #8
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I'm glad he is ok and I'm glad he was wearing his PFD. That's a downfall of any peddle driven kayak is in that situation it is much better to be using a paddle. You can use brace strokes to keep yourself upright. And practicing self rescues no matter how big and unflippable your kayak is.

If anyone wants to learn some good paddle and self rescue techniques I am available. Contact OEX and they can set up a class and I'll come up to Sunset Beach or down to Mission Bay to teach it.
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Old 02-04-2013, 04:09 PM   #9
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got rolled in my cobra first time ever doing a beach launch. Was not fun at all but did learn some very valuable lessons and thank god im comfortable in the ocean.
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Old 02-04-2013, 05:36 PM   #10
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great post to share

no so much for the guy in the video . . i just installed two metal rings on my f/f battery , and ran a nylon belt through them with a quick release buckle . i use it to secure battery , so the next time i roll it myself .
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:34 AM   #11
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The guy kept his composure! Good of him to share his experience.
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Old 02-05-2013, 06:57 AM   #12
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I think this video also shows that some of the boats that people think are the most stable actually are not when the conditions get rough. High seat, little secondary stability, rough seas and inexperience add to disaster. As Eric said above having a paddle in your hand for bracing is key also.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:19 AM   #13
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Id take the Trident 15 with a rudder over any boat I have ever paddled in those kind of conditions. The T160 and the Prowler 15 would be my next choices. So many people consider these as "tippy" but just like Eric and Jim said, stability is dependent on conditions.

Glad you mentioned Self Rescue practice Eric, was first thing that came to my mind when i saw video.

On that Subject, Maybe we should do a surf/self rescue clinic, What you think Eric? You are one of the best paddlers I know, might be a fun time.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:45 AM   #14
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That was really good to watch. Thanks for sharing it.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:30 AM   #15
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I would have to agree, in bad weather I would rather be in a trident 15 than anything else, and I don't know why people think its unstable or easy to tip over, I fished on one for over 5 years and never accidentally tipped it over except for the occasional bad beach landing, I have also been in some seriously bad weather up north in it that I would never want to be in with my new x factors, almost makes me want to buy another trident right after I just spent forever selling mine. Haha

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Id take the Trident 15 with a rudder over any boat I have ever paddled in those kind of conditions. The T160 and the Prowler 15 would be my next choices. So many people consider these as "tippy" but just like Eric and Jim said, stability is dependent on conditions.

Glad you mentioned Self Rescue practice Eric, was first thing that came to my mind when i saw video.

On that Subject, Maybe we should do a surf/self rescue clinic, What you think Eric? You are one of the best paddlers I know, might be a fun time.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:35 AM   #16
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Going out on such a bad weather? Wow, i can't imagine myself going out, but seems like you had quite an adventurous day.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:40 AM   #17
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I'm down CJ. I think for safety reasons no more then 6 in a class. We could do it in La Jolla since that is where most people will be beach launching around here it is always good to practice where you preach. We can do one up in Iceman's neck of the woods too if there is interest up there.

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Id take the Trident 15 with a rudder over any boat I have ever paddled in those kind of conditions. The T160 and the Prowler 15 would be my next choices. So many people consider these as "tippy" but just like Eric and Jim said, stability is dependent on conditions.

Glad you mentioned Self Rescue practice Eric, was first thing that came to my mind when i saw video.

On that Subject, Maybe we should do a surf/self rescue clinic, What you think Eric? You are one of the best paddlers I know, might be a fun time.
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Old 02-05-2013, 10:42 AM   #18
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Not that bad out there...he needs to improve his seamanship skills! Ya just don't go sideways to the wind waves.
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