PA 12 video

[Yakin]

only two ups about it is the lowrance hook ups already there and the seat I think.
Glad I have the 2011 PA

[dmrides]

Originally Posted by Iceman

surprised that nobody spotted the fleet in Mission Bay in March.

Damn, I was riding by on my bike and saw all those. I wish I would have stopped to take a closer look. There sure are a lot of features in that boat.

[steamroll]

http://youtu.be/63kKvMJDNNo

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by bellcon

Andy
I see 2 pulleys? one on each side of the kayak
the cord for raising the rudder?
is there one for up and one for down on the PA now?

Steering controls on both sides of the boat. The "primary steering" (ie, the big lever) comes from the factory on the left but can be switched. Could also get a second big lever and have primary steering on either side.

That seat is a riot. Seriously, only hobie would say, "yes, let's make the seat bottom, seat back and seat height fully adjustable! And while we're at it, everybody could use a little adjustable lumbar gadget as well." Good stuff.

[bellcon]

Andy it looks like the rudder up cable is now on both sides to be ambidextrous?
so it is not up / down, but the same as before, just able to use either side of the kayak for control.

Looks like the steering handle can be switched to either side of the boat also?

[Yakin]

it also might be 12 lb lighter but it also has 100lb less capacity

[roadx]

Originally Posted by bellcon

Andy it looks like the rudder up cable is now on both sides to be ambidextrous?
so it is not up / down, but the same as before, just able to use either side of the kayak for control.

Looks like the steering handle can be switched to either side of the boat also?

i think the tee handle your seeing is the seat release? watch this video and it will show you what the pull cord on the left does. yep switch the steering left or right or buy another steering thingy and have both

[roadx]

Originally Posted by Yakin

it also might be 12 lb lighter but it also has 100lb less capacity

100 lbs more than the outback

[Yakin]

Originally Posted by roadx

100 lbs more than the outback

yeah and when I pull out that AMAZING 100 lb WSB witch for some reason keeps evading me we will be in a predicament now wont we haha

[maui jim]

Originally Posted by deepdvr

Pretty sick boat! Only issue I see is getting in and out of that new chair in the surf. Looks like the seat will have to be in the extra vantage position to get the armrests as much out of the way as possible.

Can't wait until they roll all of those improvements into the PA 14.

X2
looks high (top heavy) for 2-3 ft surf, looks fun though

[lbsurf2ca]

Originally Posted by roadx

what was you expecting? a lot of nice features. smaller, lighter. theres only so much you can shave when you go this size and features.

Bummer because the value of my outback decreased.... this new boat is bad ass. I want it and I want it now!

[MWC359]

Wife saw it wife wants it Ill buy it for her I look like the good guy for supporting the idea of doing things together wife will burn out or get tired of bugs near the water I get a second kayak

[RockyRaab]

What is this "surf" thing of which you speak? Nothing like that here in Utah...LOL!

I bought my PA14 exactly 17 days ago. If I had had the option, I think I would have still gone with the 14. For one thing, the shorter length would make it harder to load atop my Durango. By the time I had the bow up on the rack, the shorter 'yak would be almost vertical. Plus, I'd lose two rod holders, and the four in the 12 would be shorter, to boot. The new seat may or may not be better; those arm rests might be more in the way than I'd like. The handles seem too far back to mount anything on, or even use as fish measurers. Then there's the fact that I'm not a Lowrance guy.

One thing I DO like is the new paddle holder system on the left handle. I'd LOVE that on my 14.

[JeffB]

I don't understand why they go with Lowrance when you have to pay extra for everything and there mapping for San Diego is crap.

[ODOGFISH]

coming in at TWO feet shorter than the fourteen ... is it still the same price ?

and yes why limit the FF to a lowrance why not make it so other units could be used

[Baja_Traveler]

Yea, IF I got the shorter one, First thing I'd be trying to figure out is how to modify the Lowrance transducer mount and change it to fit the Garmin 440 unit I want. I've never liked Lowrance, and that will not change any time soon.

What I do like though is the fact that the seat is easily removable in the water for more standing room. That falls right into my bowfishing plans.

[blitzburgh]

WOW!!!

[da22y]

The seat looked mighty comfortable, but how am I gonna seat sideway to get bait from my bait tank ?

The center hatch looked pretty "user friendly", much better than the old bungee style.

I have the Humminbird FF already... not fit this one.
Should have a "universal FF " instead.

Got my 2012 PA, and after I install a seat slider next week, I will be happy.
No regret !

[steveooo]

The external wetmount for the 'ducer is awesome I also like that the steering that can be switched from one side to another. I got used to the steering on one side and make it work, but I always thought it should go on the other side.

I'm gonna have to take one for a test paddle....

[dc1983]

To anyone looking to upgrade hit me up I'll take your OLD PRO ANGLER off your hands