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Old 10-29-2013, 10:11 AM   #16
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Think about it, there are some top notch guides who do get people on fish. If reports were posted right away by the guides or customers, when they scored all of those yellows and whites it could only hurt their business for the next few days, as every PBer and kayaker would hit the water and take over the area.... We could give a flying Wallenda why others have their reasons for not posting timely reports. But if you see one from us, you might give the lengthy report a glance that it might help you soon after
If it was just about guides it would be one thing, that makes sense, but that is not only what it's about.

What get's me about the whole report thing is the double standards and how some have used this issue to attack others they simply do not like for one reason or another, and in the process kind of ruined it for everyone.

Some can post anything they want and another says something like "Seabass are in the kelp in the spring before they spawn... go get them!" and same people act like it's the end of the world.

Bashing people for sharing info become a way to put down newbies or enforce the somewhat highschoolish clique mentality. Newbies come in get excited about the new sport and want to post and share and then they get shot down.

The people behind this stuff are pretty obvious, and their posts clearly show their motivations.

5, 10, 15 posts 20 posts in five or six years all either attacking those who do share info or telling others that they should never post any info online. The question is if they are so against helping others why are they even here in the first place.

Some of these guys are long time members of the kayak community. I'd say it's about them flexing their muscles as the self proclaimed "Pioneers of Kayaking" while at the same time trying to block or deny access to anyone who brings new talent or even worse God forbid new ideas to the game.

For instance I remember the first time someone suggested that a thru hull transducer or one in the water might give better results then gluing one in your hull and a long time poster instantly came back and said: "All you need to kayak fish is a rod a rope and a gaff and the rest of this tech stuff is just total B.S. "

Years later in the age of Gopros and high tech Hummingbird finders that seems ridiculously comical but it was obviously about protecting what that poster saw as his status quot.


I think in the kayak community there are several factors that have come up that have kind of killed the report posting. Some are legitimate others are simply petty, but they have had significant impact,

The truth is there are reports that if posted will lead to overcrowding and overfishing and there are reports that don't lead to overcrowding and over fishing, and the good long time posters (blackcloud9 comes to mind) know the difference, and still post some great reports.

Unfortunately at the same time you have a segment of the community that wants to pretend that sharing any info or posting any report is bad. They don't share info. They do not want anyone else sharing info either.

The shame is rather then educating posters about what they can and should post these long time members of the community just want to shut everyone down for their own selfish reasons. That mentality has spread and as a result they've tainted the well for everyone.

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