Aquarium gets exemption on bay dumping

[Podaker]

i guess it's ok to take a dump in a MPA


http://web.signonsandiego.com/news/2...water-dumping/

[The Kid]

The DFG is not concerned with waste discharge. This is one way that they are drawing revenue to fund MPA implementation. Rather than preventing harmful activities such as pollution they are making money off of it. Look at Appendix N under Waste Discharge Fees. I guess it is ok to pollute the ocean if they are getting paid.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/revisedmp0108n.pdf

[Billy V]

-It doesn't surprise me...

Just Meg Caldwell taking another Big Sh!t in a Marine Reserve.
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[mtnbykr2]

What's good for one is not necessarily good for others...I guess...
interesting read though, thanks for sharing

[silverbullet]

Maybe contact the authors and see if we can get someone to do investigative reporting on the dumping, science used to determine MLPA rules, etc.... ?

Only way to make an impact would be to debunk the science and rules publicly...

Call TURKO! LMAO....It aint right!

[wiredantz]

I know that the county charges Gas Station, Restaurants these NPDES Fees each facility because they wantt\ to control the waste that goes into the sewer drainage system. I believe the fees for each inspection is 180.60.

I know this because the county charges the city and the city charges the businesses.

Fat,Oil and grease Inspections (per Restaurant) and Facilities will be assessed a reinspection fee for failing complaince.


Thall all i know about that.

[RK]

Call TURKO! LMAO....It aint right![/QUOTE]



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Fiskadoro]

Originally Posted by Podaker

i guess it's ok to take a dump in a MPA

This is more about California bureaucracy then anything else.

Back in 2004 some genius at water resources decided to classify all the two million gallons seawater the Aquarium pumps through it's tanks and exhibits each day as "waste-water discharge" because in theory it has a small amount of fish shit in it when it goes back in the bay.

This is like saying the water that comes out of your bait tank when you have a few macks in it is "waste-water discharge" and your breaking the law if you run your bait tank in the reserve.

The Aquarium then had to file for a special exception since Pacific Grove where it's located was designated A State Area of Special Biological Significance since back in 1983. The irony is that the only reason Pacific Grove got it's special status is because of the Aquarium. When they built it they designated the ocean around it as a "Special" marine area.

Of course that simple fact that the "Special" status only existed because of the Aquarium eluded the water board and they demanded studies and some kind of action.

So millions of dollars were wasted as they did studies, wrote up various papers and presentations, and had countless meetings.... To finally come to the conclusion that the 2 million Gallons of water pumped in and out of the Aquarium each day was not really waste water in the traditional sense, that it poses no hazard to the environment, and except for a few insignificant trace copper readings in tests, it's actually no dirtier then the rest of the water that surrounds the Aquarium at Pacific Grove, and that it is in all fairness just the exact same water.

So now seven years later the state water board has finally given the Aquarium an exemption that essentually just lets the Aquarium keep doing what it has always done: pump seawater through it's tanks so people can come look at the fish there.

What a ridiculous waste of time and money.


Jim

[mtnbykr2]

Originally Posted by Jim Day

This is more about California bureaucracy then anything else.

Back in 2004 some genius at water resources decided to classify all the two million gallons seawater the Aquarium pumps through it's tanks and exhibits each day as "waste-water discharge" because in theory it has a small amount of fish shit in it when it goes back in the bay.

This is like saying the water that comes out of your bait tank when you have a few macks in it is "waste-water discharge" and your breaking the law if you run your bait tank in the reserve.

The Aquarium then had to file for a special exception since Pacific Grove where it's located was designated A State Area of Special Biological Significance since back in 1983. The irony is that the only reason Pacific Grove got it's special status is because of the Aquarium. When they built it they designated the ocean around it as a "Special" marine area.

Of course that simple fact that the "Special" status only existed because of the Aquarium eluded the water board and they demanded studies and some kind of action.

So millions of dollars were wasted as they did studies, wrote up various papers and presentations, and had countless meetings.... To finally come to the conclusion that the 2 million Gallons of water pumped in and out of the Aquarium each day was not really waste water in the traditional sense, that it poses no hazard to the environment, and except for a few insignificant trace copper readings in tests, it's actually no dirtier then the rest of the water that surrounds the Aquarium at Pacific Grove, and that it is in all fairness just the exact same water.

So now seven years later the state water board has finally given the Aquarium an exemption that essentually just lets the Aquarium keep doing what it has always done: pump seawater through it's tanks so people can come look at the fish there.

What a ridiculous waste of time and money.


Jim

This exactly why there are so many over paid underworked morons running this state into the poor house, this is why the economy is irreconcilable, this is why all involved should be voted out, thanks for the info on the story.
Just goes to show that we don't find out the real amount of rediculousness that goes on behind the scenes until said rediculousness has cost us too much already....sorry...rant complete

[jbm]

And there is always this...

Michael Sutton, of Monterey, was appointed to the Fish and Game Commission on May 4, 2007. He was reappointed on March 25, 2009 to a six-year term. Sutton has served as vice president and founding director of the Center for the Future of the Oceans at the Monterey Bay Aquarium since 2004. Previously, he served as program officer for the conservation and science program at the David and Lucile Packard Foundation from 1999 to 2004. Prior to that, Sutton served as vice president of the U.S. Land and Wildlife Program for the World Wildlife Fund from 1995 to 1999, as well as senior program officer for international wildlife policy for the World Wildlife Fund from 1990 to 1992. He also served as special agent for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service from 1984 to 1990. Sutton worked for the National Park Service as a park ranger from 1980 to 1984.
His term on the Commission expires January 15, 2015.

[mtnbykr2]

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