MLPA in So.Cal to begin Oct.1st - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

dorado50 · 06-29-2011, 08:21 PM

If it's true what a bummer...

old_rookie · 06-29-2011, 08:27 PM

http://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2011/0...th-coast-mpas/

bellcon · 06-29-2011, 08:39 PM

wiredantz · 06-29-2011, 08:49 PM

Say it isn't so!
Nooooooooooooooooo

wade · 06-29-2011, 08:54 PM

Time to Strap Up!.....

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Joctane · 06-29-2011, 09:00 PM

Sorry for the "greenie" question. But what exactly does this mean? Can't fish LJ anymore or can't keep fish you catch in that area?

T Bone · 06-29-2011, 09:06 PM

They can kiss my ass ,I am fishing wherever I want...

Billy V · 06-29-2011, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T Bone

They can kiss my ass ,I am fishing wherever I want...

- Ain't that the fuken truth.

I stopped playing by their rules a long time ago.

roadx · 06-29-2011, 09:15 PM

how convenient just days before lobster opener

old_rookie · 06-29-2011, 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joctane

Sorry for the "greenie" question. But what exactly does this mean? Can't fish LJ anymore or can't keep fish you catch in that area?

From what I understand, we'll need to paddle a little further west to drop a line - but not that much further - if you are only fishing La Jolla. There are more severe closures in other areas.

This is a very general map of the closures, I have yet to find a more detailed map: http://www.dfg.ca.gov/mlpa/pdfs/scmpas121510.pdf

Tman · 06-29-2011, 10:41 PM

That about sums it up...

No, Wussman was not part of the DFG (at least, as far as we know...

...) but his antics along with others made it quite apparent that this was one well scripted but poorly acted out show...you never once had us convinced that you were looking out for our best interests, and taking our voices into consideration. In the old days, if the performance stunk, the actors would get pelted with rotten fruit and vegetables. But of course we had to play along, to no avail. You didn't play us kook, we knew exactly how much you planned to phook us, hence the need for all of the DFG bodyguards, you were all just a bunch of scared beyotches.

And at the curtain call? You were all smothered with bodyguards...were you that afraid, was that at the point of the final performance, that you realized we'd figured it out?

We should of gone ghetto on your arses long before that...we knew what you were doing, unfortunately, had we reacted the way we wanted to, and should of when someone is about to be phooked, you beyotches would have played it against us. We fought your fight, and lost.

Guess what? When Sugar Ray fought Duran's fight and lost, not by a knockout but by a decision, he came back and fought his fight...we all know the outcome.

I'll be saving a rotten tomato for you, Ken...

In a 4-1 vote, Commissioners selected this day to better inform affected ocean users of the new regulations in the South Coast Study Region, which spans from Point Conception in Santa Barbara County to the U.S./Mexico border. Commissioner Daniel Richards was the only vote in opposition.

Thank you Mr. Richards, but we knew all along how this would play out.

You sir were the only one who could not be bought...

If you are ever in the mood for fresh fish, I am certain many a kayker would be happy to oblige...

Flyfisher70 · 06-29-2011, 11:49 PM

I'll be carrying a copy with me whenever I'm out fishing.

CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION

ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS

Section 25.

”The people shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water containing fish that have been planted therein by the State; provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season when and the conditions under which the different species of fish may be taken.”

diehardfisher · 06-29-2011, 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flyfisher70

I'll be carrying a copy with me whenever I'm out fishing.

I could only imagine the looks on their faces

PAL · 06-30-2011, 06:11 AM

There's an implementation date, but this isn't the last word. Bob Fletcher, UASC and Coastside are 3-0 in the legal battle. Vote in favor of the fight here: http://www.oceanaccessprotectionfund.org

For LJ, this means paddling out past the point. The pier remains open for bait only. Everything else past the pier is closed, as is La Jolla south of Windansea.

Maps, with understandable boundaries at this link: http://www.wonews.com/Blog.aspx?id=9...exclusive-maps

T Bone · 06-30-2011, 07:05 AM

The entire coast from NPH to Dana will be closed.

Who do these people think they are?

WahooUSMA · 06-30-2011, 07:47 AM

This maybe a dumb question, but how can you implement a closure when there is a legal challenge in court that has not been ruled upon?

Combat 101 - Never give up any ground you already have....you never get it back...

ChefT · 06-30-2011, 07:59 AM

Can this issue be put on a ballot for other Californians to vote on.

I don't think its fair, that a small group of people can make a decisions

that affect so many others...

dsafety · 06-30-2011, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChefT

Can this issue be put on a ballot for other California's to vote on.

I don't think its fair, that a small group of people can make a decisions

that affect so many others...

Welcome to the real world of big money politics where the Golden Rule prevails, (the one with the most gold makes the rules).

Even in the unlikely event that an issue like this was to be put on the ballot, I am not sure the results would go our way. The opposition has lots of money to spend on marketing their point of view and the general public that is very ignorant when it comes to this subject. Most would not take the time to learn the real facts.

I like the idea of carrying around a copy of the constitution. That would be an interesting defense should someone get popped for fishing in one of the MLPA closed zones.

Bob

sasha · 06-30-2011, 07:40 PM

Its almost why even buy a kayak or fishing gear anymore. Sound like a waste of money now as we cant fish in the easy to reach areas.. How far out into the ocean does the closer goes??? If it become too much of a headache to go fishing then you go fishing less often..
Maybe we could just go and watch the fish..

Willy · 06-30-2011, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChefT

Can this issue be put on a ballot for other Californians to vote on.

I don't think its fair, that a small group of people can make a decisions

that affect so many others...

In that case, the small group will be the judges to over rule our vote.

Does legal Medical pot or Gay marriage ban both being overruled by the judges sound familiar?

The same will happen if we vote this crap law out.
I'm with the others...

I'll fish where I've always fished. The DFG won't have the manpower to keep this enforced for long, even if they make a show enforcement in the beginning.

I hate to be that guy, but this country is going to hell quick style. Alas, our once great state is leading the charge.

Willy

06-29-2011, 08:21 PM	#1
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	MLPA in So.Cal to begin Oct.1st If it's true what a bummer...

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wade Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oceanside Posts: 1,214	Time to Strap Up!..... • __________________

06-29-2011, 09:00 PM	#6
Joctane H2Okie Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Tierrasanta Posts: 52	Sorry for the "greenie" question. But what exactly does this mean? Can't fish LJ anymore or can't keep fish you catch in that area? __________________ Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day!

06-29-2011, 09:06 PM	#7
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	They can kiss my ass ,I am fishing wherever I want... __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

06-29-2011, 08:27 PM	#2
old_rookie Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Santee Posts: 904	http://cdfgnews.wordpress.com/2011/0...th-coast-mpas/

06-29-2011, 08:49 PM	#4
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	Say it isn't so! Nooooooooooooooooo

06-29-2011, 09:15 PM	#9
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	how convenient just days before lobster opener __________________

06-29-2011, 10:41 PM	#11
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Wiseman you pompous, arrogant disrespecting prick That about sums it up... No, Wussman was not part of the DFG (at least, as far as we know......) but his antics along with others made it quite apparent that this was one well scripted but poorly acted out show...you never once had us convinced that you were looking out for our best interests, and taking our voices into consideration. In the old days, if the performance stunk, the actors would get pelted with rotten fruit and vegetables. But of course we had to play along, to no avail. You didn't play us kook, we knew exactly how much you planned to phook us, hence the need for all of the DFG bodyguards, you were all just a bunch of scared beyotches. And at the curtain call? You were all smothered with bodyguards...were you that afraid, was that at the point of the final performance, that you realized we'd figured it out? We should of gone ghetto on your arses long before that...we knew what you were doing, unfortunately, had we reacted the way we wanted to, and should of when someone is about to be phooked, you beyotches would have played it against us. We fought your fight, and lost. Guess what? When Sugar Ray fought Duran's fight and lost, not by a knockout but by a decision, he came back and fought his fight...we all know the outcome. I'll be saving a rotten tomato for you, Ken... In a 4-1 vote, Commissioners selected this day to better inform affected ocean users of the new regulations in the South Coast Study Region, which spans from Point Conception in Santa Barbara County to the U.S./Mexico border. Commissioner Daniel Richards was the only vote in opposition. Thank you Mr. Richards, but we knew all along how this would play out. You sir were the only one who could not be bought... If you are ever in the mood for fresh fish, I am certain many a kayker would be happy to oblige... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-29-2011, 11:49 PM	#12
Flyfisher70 Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 69	I'll be carrying a copy with me whenever I'm out fishing. CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION ARTICLE 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS Section 25. ”The people shall have the right to fish upon and from the public lands of the State and in the waters thereof, excepting upon lands set aside for fish hatcheries, and no land owned by the State shall ever be sold or transferred without reserving in the people the absolute right to fish thereupon; and no law shall ever be passed making it a crime for the people to enter upon the public lands within this State for the purpose of fishing in any water containing fish that have been planted therein by the State; provided, that the legislature may by statute, provide for the season when and the conditions under which the different species of fish may be taken.” Last edited by Flyfisher70; 06-29-2011 at 11:50 PM. Reason: spelling

06-30-2011, 06:11 AM	#14
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	There's an implementation date, but this isn't the last word. Bob Fletcher, UASC and Coastside are 3-0 in the legal battle. Vote in favor of the fight here: http://www.oceanaccessprotectionfund.org For LJ, this means paddling out past the point. The pier remains open for bait only. Everything else past the pier is closed, as is La Jolla south of Windansea. Maps, with understandable boundaries at this link: http://www.wonews.com/Blog.aspx?id=9...exclusive-maps

06-30-2011, 07:05 AM	#15
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	The entire coast from NPH to Dana will be closed. Who do these people think they are? __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

06-30-2011, 07:47 AM	#16
WahooUSMA Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Rancho Cucamonga Posts: 753	This maybe a dumb question, but how can you implement a closure when there is a legal challenge in court that has not been ruled upon? Combat 101 - Never give up any ground you already have....you never get it back... __________________ GO ARMY BEAT NAVY! Bad decisions make great stories!

06-30-2011, 07:59 AM	#17
ChefT Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: SD Posts: 216	Can this issue be put on a ballot for other Californians to vote on. I don't think its fair, that a small group of people can make a decisions that affect so many others... Last edited by ChefT; 06-30-2011 at 10:26 AM.

06-30-2011, 07:40 PM	#19
sasha Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 275	Its almost why even buy a kayak or fishing gear anymore. Sound like a waste of money now as we cant fish in the easy to reach areas.. How far out into the ocean does the closer goes??? If it become too much of a headache to go fishing then you go fishing less often.. Maybe we could just go and watch the fish..