La Jolla caves are cool OOPS big wave!!! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

driftwood · 11-05-2010, 06:09 PM

OOPS Big wave whoooo!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OfrFpFwESQ

T Bone · 11-05-2010, 07:14 PM

I have wanted to go in there,now I know to just stay out...

dsafety · 11-05-2010, 07:48 PM

That was a very small wave compared to what can hit that spot. When we were out on Wednesday the six foot plus swells were aimed directly at the caves. When they hit the cliffs, the spray went at least 20 feet in the air. Anyone caught in the caves under those conditions would have been blown out the other end, or smashed into the walls.

That would be interesting to watch but I would not want to be the guy who got bounced around. Ouch!

Every winter lifeguards have to pluck a few folks, usually divers but sometimes surfers, out of those caves during big surf conditions. It can be very dangerous work.

Recently I had a conversation with one of my former colleagues who had just retired from the Lifeguard Service with an 80% pension for life. When I asked him if he felt comfortable about this extraordinary retirement benefit, his response was that he often had to put his life on the line and that the benefit was appropriate. He was probably talking about having to save dumb ass guys like the one in Gabe's video.

I am all for rewarding hard working folks who put their lives on the line for the rest of us, but getting 80% if your highest salary for the rest of your life just because you managed to make it to retirement without burning out or getting fired seems a bit generous to me. There must be a better way.

Oops! I went political again. Sorry.

Bob

Riskey Water · 11-05-2010, 08:01 PM

It could have been worse ,after watching that clip I saw " An Unfortunate Kayaking accident " by DarkWolfSpecter772 of a breaching Killer Whale landing on a kayaker in open water ,sorry I don't know how to cut and paste

driftwood · 11-05-2010, 08:11 PM

Good point Bob. The ones who put their lives on the line, such as lifeguards, policeman and fire fighters, these are the real heroes. Most young people look to sport stars as role models. Everyone knows who Tiger Woods is but does anyone remember the name of the police officer who lost his life this week? Chris Wilson - and far as I am concerned, he is a true real hero and this is what kids should strive to imiatate, his integrity to his family and community. My condolences to his family.

roadx · 11-05-2010, 08:12 PM

Bob if your friend worked for city of sd he put in over 26 years of service saving other peoples lives

what is enough compensation then ??

roadx · 11-05-2010, 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riskey Water

It could have been worse ,after watching that clip I saw " An Unfortunate Kayaking accident " by DarkWolfSpecter772 of a breaching Killer Whale landing on a kayaker in open water ,sorry I don't know how to cut and paste

whale breach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtrbFKczurw

Vikingj · 11-05-2010, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dsafety

Recently I had a conversation with one of my former colleagues who had just retired from the Lifeguard Service with an 80% pension for life. When I asked him if he felt comfortable about this extraordinary retirement benefit, his response was that he often had to put his life on the line and that the benefit was appropriate. He was probably talking about having to save dumb ass guys like the one in Gabe's video.

I am all for rewarding hard working folks who put their lives on the line for the rest of us, but getting 80% if your highest salary for the rest of your life just because you managed to make it to retirement without burning out or getting fired seems a bit generous to me. There must be a better way.

Oops! I went political again. Sorry.

Bob

Although I'm sure there are some retirement programs where 80% might be excessive, there are many that are not. You can't really make a blanket statement for all public employees. The details vary considerably. How much did the employee donate each year to his retirement (10, 15, 20%)? Will he be able to collect the full social security he has earned (CalSTRS/CalPERS does not)? How many years was he employed (35, 40, 45 years)? Will he receive benefits during retirement (no in most)? What kind of risk, training, education are involved? How did his work load/salary compare to the private sector? Etcetra, etcetra. There might even be some that earned and deserve more than 80% ?
Wayne

11-05-2010, 08:55 PM

Gabe,
that's a classic. Are you sure you didn't photoshop
yourself out of the video?

Wayne, relax, you must of heard: your buddy Jerry's back in.

11-05-2010, 06:09 PM	#1
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	La Jolla caves are cool OOPS big wave!!! OOPS Big wave whoooo!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OfrFpFwESQ

11-05-2010, 07:14 PM	#2
T Bone Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Redlands CA Posts: 871	I have wanted to go in there,now I know to just stay out... __________________ Barachit Baralah,Elohim-In the beginning,God-Genesis 1:1 "Who among you,if your son asked for a fish would give them a serpent " Jesus Matt. 7:10

11-05-2010, 08:12 PM	#6
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	Bob if your friend worked for city of sd he put in over 26 years of service saving other peoples lives what is enough compensation then ?? __________________

11-05-2010, 07:48 PM	#3
dsafety Olivenhain Bob Join Date: May 2008 Location: Olivenhain, CA Posts: 1,121	That was a very small wave compared to what can hit that spot. When we were out on Wednesday the six foot plus swells were aimed directly at the caves. When they hit the cliffs, the spray went at least 20 feet in the air. Anyone caught in the caves under those conditions would have been blown out the other end, or smashed into the walls. That would be interesting to watch but I would not want to be the guy who got bounced around. Ouch! Every winter lifeguards have to pluck a few folks, usually divers but sometimes surfers, out of those caves during big surf conditions. It can be very dangerous work. Recently I had a conversation with one of my former colleagues who had just retired from the Lifeguard Service with an 80% pension for life. When I asked him if he felt comfortable about this extraordinary retirement benefit, his response was that he often had to put his life on the line and that the benefit was appropriate. He was probably talking about having to save dumb ass guys like the one in Gabe's video. I am all for rewarding hard working folks who put their lives on the line for the rest of us, but getting 80% if your highest salary for the rest of your life just because you managed to make it to retirement without burning out or getting fired seems a bit generous to me. There must be a better way. Oops! I went political again. Sorry. Bob

11-05-2010, 08:01 PM	#4
Riskey Water Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: On the water ofcourse Posts: 142	It could have been worse ,after watching that clip I saw " An Unfortunate Kayaking accident " by DarkWolfSpecter772 of a breaching Killer Whale landing on a kayaker in open water ,sorry I don't know how to cut and paste

11-05-2010, 08:11 PM	#5
driftwood Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO Posts: 1,086	Good point Bob. The ones who put their lives on the line, such as lifeguards, policeman and fire fighters, these are the real heroes. Most young people look to sport stars as role models. Everyone knows who Tiger Woods is but does anyone remember the name of the police officer who lost his life this week? Chris Wilson - and far as I am concerned, he is a true real hero and this is what kids should strive to imiatate, his integrity to his family and community. My condolences to his family.

11-05-2010, 08:55 PM	#9
yani Guest Posts: n/a	Gabe, that's a classic. Are you sure you didn't photoshop yourself out of the video? Wayne, relax, you must of heard: your buddy Jerry's back in.