MLPA Public Comment! - Page 5 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

newguy01 · 10-12-2010, 03:48 PM

just a suggestion may be we can all wear a tourny t-shirt if you have one old or new it will be easy to fine like minded folks and does not cost anything if you have it alot of folks went to the steve moyer tourny and looks like its the same people going to the meeting. just my .02 $

PAL · 10-12-2010, 04:11 PM

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Just a suggestion, last couple of meetings I went to the lobby area during check in was total chaos. It was easy to find where to get card for speaking time, but it's REALLY HARD TO FIND PAUL, JOE and the others to whom the time was to be ceded and the other kaykers.
When we did the matching black shirts thing, at least it was easy to find the like minded folks.

My suggestion is to create some sort of recognizable uniform, shirt, hat big sign or something so the people who don't recognize faces from this board or from on the water at a distance know who to sit with, talk to, and cede time to.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Yes, I agree these meetings are often mass confusion. I'll get with our friends at the Waterman's Alliance to see what we can do to smooth things out.

roadx · 10-12-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by newguy01

just a suggestion may be we can all wear a tourny t-shirt if you have one old or new it will be easy to fine like minded folks and does not cost anything if you have it alot of folks went to the steve moyer tourny and looks like its the same people going to the meeting. just my .02 $

from my understanding Waterman will be giving out tee's but i still plan on wearing my tourny tee to be easy to spot

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The Waterman's Alliance will be on hand to give out t-shirt to all conservation-fisherman attendees and with pizza/drinks for everyone.

Tman · 10-12-2010, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by newguy01

just a suggestion may be we can all wear a tourny t-shirt if you have one old or new it will be easy to fine like minded folks and does not cost anything if you have it alot of folks went to the steve moyer tourny and looks like its the same people going to the meeting. just my .02 $

Great idea...at one of the meetings, we chose black only to be accused of threatening tactics.

Won't be hard to miss the fishermen and women, pretty sure the other side will be handing out t-shirts...usually in blue, look for the phrase claiming how MLPA's work, even though they've not been set in place...

roadx · 10-12-2010, 05:15 PM

Tman

so.. your saying to pick up your blue tee first so you can burn them in the parking lot

lambadmin · 10-12-2010, 05:55 PM

I think enviros mounted an attack to BWE with this gallery hack

Put me down Chris.

Wouldn't want to miss out, great numbers so far, thanks all!!!

C'MON ALL, LETS FIND THE TIME AND SHOW UP.

Definitely need a dress code to stick out.

zenspearo · 10-13-2010, 11:45 PM

Just an update.

Thanks all for the inputs. We all read them and discuss them and try to find solutions all the time from your feedback so it's mucho appreciated.

The Watermen's Alliance will have a table, and that's where you can find me (joe--zenspearo). Everyone will have name tags but the key organizers for ceding time and speaker coordination will be easy to recognize, due to what they will wear (trust me on this point--we took your feedback that it was hard to find the key people at past meetings).

Funny story: At one of our meetings last year, some guy came up and asked for six speaker cards to have more time to speak. Tried to sound convincing too. I didn't buy it and somebody eventually "outed" that person as some nut case from the close-it-all side.

This is an open forum and we can't openly discuss in advance speaking points, what we wear (because you bet some joker is going to wear the same and try to collect speaker cards from some first-timer fisherman attendee), etc.. But on the day at the venue, the information will be clearly posted, speaking points will be printed, copied, and made available, and the organizers will be distinctive in what they wear so if you have time card to give, need speaking point, or need time, you can easily find someone who can help.

Thanks so much for participating in this critical push. Happy paddling and tight lines.

kurtfish · 10-14-2010, 10:21 AM

Great comments by Fishinado. I agree with all but is it still suggested that focus our comments on Map 2 ? I still have "Support Map 2" name badge hanging on my rear view mirror. Lucas and I will be there on the 20th but I have Lakers tickets for 7pm on Oct. 21st so I hope with public commentary will not pushed back to the end of the program. I will work with Lucas to get a focused speach for him to presetn once again. I believe we will need to pool our time once again as we may be allowed only 15 seconds per person.

Hope to lots of fisherman will be in attendance.

Kurtfish

Ohana · 10-15-2010, 01:53 PM

Everyone:

Are both the 20th and 21st still the day's to attend? Is the 21st still a good day to show-up?

I was planning on going on the 20th, but I now have to go to Minneapolis for business on Monday the 18th, returning on the 20th, so the 21st looks like the only day I can make the meeting.

Thanks,

Kevin

PAL · 10-15-2010, 02:23 PM

^Unfortunately, the MLPA probably won't overlap onto the 21st. Please wish us the best and if you are so inclined, consider a donation to the Ocean Access Protection Fund to support the legal challenge.

http://oceanaccessprotectionfund.org/

Ohana · 10-15-2010, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PAL

^Unfortunately, the MLPA probably won't overlap onto the 21st. Please wish us the best and if you are so inclined, consider a donation to the Ocean Access Protection Fund to support the legal challenge.

http://oceanaccessprotectionfund.org/

Thanks for answering my question. Sorry to hear that the 21st is not good, but if this changes and the MLPA does go into the 21st, other then this forum, is there a way to check?

I will go to the website you listed.

Kevin

Holy Mackerel · 10-15-2010, 07:24 PM

Sorry, I have a 3 week old, so my time is limited to update this list...! Btw, my last day of vacation is going to be the 20th, and I will be at this meeting, instead of, spending it with my newborn, so NO Excuses! Please attend!

BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc..

Four Points by Sheraton
8110 Aero Drive
San Diego, CA

ROLL CALL!!!!

1. Chris
2. dmrides
3. deepdvr
4. dsafety
5. AQUATICHUNTER
6. SteveOOO
7. Dgax65
8. cowboybill
9. Fishionado
10. Old Rookie
11. PAL
12. Joe Beck
13. Kurt
14.Cabojohn
15. The Kid
16. CurtyL
17. Bluesquids
18. jbm
19. Matt
20. Tman
21. Clay
22. newguy01
23. WahooUSMA
24. Corey
25. Ohana
26. zinkysd
27. roadx
28. Tyler
29. Dan
30. C. Cary
31. dfroggy54
32. bubblehide
33. BillyV
34. Mikecollins86
35. fryguy
36. Tattuna
37. Paintnfish
38. kelpangler
39. Aquatic Hunter
40. TheLuckyPig
41. Grego
42. MVC
43. GregAndrew
44. Hatchetman
45. Hobie Shaq1
46. erinoo
47. driftwood
48. cjthomas
49. Adi
50. Zenspearo
51. kurtfish
52. ???????

sharonkayak · 10-16-2010, 07:51 PM

Im in. girls gotta show up too...

Holy Mackerel · 10-16-2010, 08:27 PM

BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc..

Four Points by Sheraton
8110 Aero Drive
San Diego, CA

ROLL CALL!!!!

1. Chris
2. dmrides
3. deepdvr
4. dsafety
5. AQUATICHUNTER
6. SteveOOO
7. Dgax65
8. cowboybill
9. Fishionado
10. Old Rookie
11. PAL
12. Joe Beck
13. Kurt
14.Cabojohn
15. The Kid
16. CurtyL
17. Bluesquids
18. jbm
19. Matt
20. Tman
21. Clay
22. newguy01
23. WahooUSMA
24. Corey
25. Ohana
26. zinkysd
27. roadx
28. Tyler
29. Dan
30. C. Cary
31. dfroggy54
32. bubblehide
33. BillyV
34. Mikecollins86
35. fryguy
36. Tattuna
37. Paintnfish
38. kelpangler
39. Aquatic Hunter
40. TheLuckyPig
41. Grego
42. MVC
43. GregAndrew
44. Hatchetman
45. Hobie Shaq1
46. erinoo
47. driftwood
48. cjthomas
49. Adi
50. Zenspearo
51. kurtfish
52. sharonkayak
53. ???????

Grego · 10-16-2010, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Holy Mackerel

Sorry, I have a 3 week old, so my time is limited to update this list...!

Congrats Chris! 2 kids and 2 labs now? or do you count Trevor as one of your red headed step childs!

Add another possible to the list, I might be bringing a guest from work...never fished the ocean, just a good ol' Montana boy who can't stand all the "eco-chip hippies" I think he gets that from cow-chips? I dunno, never asked....

*sniff* *sniff* did someone fart recently....bhahahahhaha...or was it eric

Margarita Mike · 10-17-2010, 06:01 AM

I'll be there Chris

Holy Mackerel · 10-17-2010, 08:25 AM

Thanks Grego, but I have dis-owned Trevor!

BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc..

Four Points by Sheraton
8110 Aero Drive
San Diego, CA

ROLL CALL!!!!

1. Chris
2. dmrides
3. deepdvr
4. dsafety
5. AQUATICHUNTER
6. SteveOOO
7. Dgax65
8. cowboybill
9. Fishionado
10. Old Rookie
11. PAL
12. Joe Beck
13. Kurt
14.Cabojohn
15. The Kid
16. CurtyL
17. Bluesquids
18. jbm
19. Matt
20. Tman
21. Clay
22. newguy01
23. WahooUSMA
24. Corey
25. Ohana
26. zinkysd
27. roadx
28. Tyler
29. Dan
30. C. Cary
31. dfroggy54
32. bubblehide
33. BillyV
34. Mikecollins86
35. fryguy
36. Tattuna
37. Paintnfish
38. kelpangler
39. Aquatic Hunter
40. TheLuckyPig
41. Grego
42. MVC
43. GregAndrew
44. Hatchetman
45. Hobie Shaq1
46. erinoo
47. driftwood
48. cjthomas
49. Adi
50. Zenspearo
51. kurtfish
52. sharonkayak
53. Margarita Mike
54. ???????

Hypoxic1 · 10-17-2010, 08:54 AM

Sure its a 10 am arrival or earlier to avoid a rush?

Holy Mackerel · 10-17-2010, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Hypoxic1

Sure its a 10 am arrival or earlier to avoid a rush?

Get there around 8-8:30am,

easier to figure out ceding time... so, can we count on your participation?

FISHIONADO · 10-18-2010, 09:15 AM

Bump!! Hope to see a boatload of you folks Wednesday!

10-12-2010, 03:48 PM	#81
newguy01 Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: S.D. Posts: 133	black t-shirt just a suggestion may be we can all wear a tourny t-shirt if you have one old or new it will be easy to fine like minded folks and does not cost anything if you have it alot of folks went to the steve moyer tourny and looks like its the same people going to the meeting. just my .02 $

10-12-2010, 05:15 PM	#85
roadx . Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,155	Tman so.. your saying to pick up your blue tee first so you can burn them in the parking lot __________________

10-12-2010, 05:55 PM	#86
lambadmin Spam Sanitation Dept Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,375	I think enviros mounted an attack to BWE with this gallery hack Put me down Chris. Wouldn't want to miss out, great numbers so far, thanks all!!! C'MON ALL, LETS FIND THE TIME AND SHOW UP. Definitely need a dress code to stick out. __________________

10-13-2010, 11:45 PM	#87
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	Just an update. Thanks all for the inputs. We all read them and discuss them and try to find solutions all the time from your feedback so it's mucho appreciated. The Watermen's Alliance will have a table, and that's where you can find me (joe--zenspearo). Everyone will have name tags but the key organizers for ceding time and speaker coordination will be easy to recognize, due to what they will wear (trust me on this point--we took your feedback that it was hard to find the key people at past meetings). Funny story: At one of our meetings last year, some guy came up and asked for six speaker cards to have more time to speak. Tried to sound convincing too. I didn't buy it and somebody eventually "outed" that person as some nut case from the close-it-all side. This is an open forum and we can't openly discuss in advance speaking points, what we wear (because you bet some joker is going to wear the same and try to collect speaker cards from some first-timer fisherman attendee), etc.. But on the day at the venue, the information will be clearly posted, speaking points will be printed, copied, and made available, and the organizers will be distinctive in what they wear so if you have time card to give, need speaking point, or need time, you can easily find someone who can help. Thanks so much for participating in this critical push. Happy paddling and tight lines. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

10-14-2010, 10:21 AM	#88
kurtfish Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: I work in the little Village of La Jolla Posts: 139	MLPA Take III Great comments by Fishinado. I agree with all but is it still suggested that focus our comments on Map 2 ? I still have "Support Map 2" name badge hanging on my rear view mirror. Lucas and I will be there on the 20th but I have Lakers tickets for 7pm on Oct. 21st so I hope with public commentary will not pushed back to the end of the program. I will work with Lucas to get a focused speach for him to presetn once again. I believe we will need to pool our time once again as we may be allowed only 15 seconds per person. Hope to lots of fisherman will be in attendance. Kurtfish Last edited by kurtfish; 10-14-2010 at 10:57 AM.

10-15-2010, 01:53 PM	#89
Ohana Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Coto de Caza, CA Posts: 155	Everyone: Are both the 20th and 21st still the day's to attend? Is the 21st still a good day to show-up? I was planning on going on the 20th, but I now have to go to Minneapolis for business on Monday the 18th, returning on the 20th, so the 21st looks like the only day I can make the meeting. Thanks, Kevin

10-15-2010, 02:23 PM	#90
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	^Unfortunately, the MLPA probably won't overlap onto the 21st. Please wish us the best and if you are so inclined, consider a donation to the Ocean Access Protection Fund to support the legal challenge. http://oceanaccessprotectionfund.org/

10-15-2010, 07:24 PM	#92
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Sorry, I have a 3 week old, so my time is limited to update this list...! Btw, my last day of vacation is going to be the 20th, and I will be at this meeting, instead of, spending it with my newborn, so NO Excuses! Please attend! BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc.. Four Points by Sheraton 8110 Aero Drive San Diego, CA ROLL CALL!!!! 1. Chris 2. dmrides 3. deepdvr 4. dsafety 5. AQUATICHUNTER 6. SteveOOO 7. Dgax65 8. cowboybill 9. Fishionado 10. Old Rookie 11. PAL 12. Joe Beck 13. Kurt 14.Cabojohn 15. The Kid 16. CurtyL 17. Bluesquids 18. jbm 19. Matt 20. Tman 21. Clay 22. newguy01 23. WahooUSMA 24. Corey 25. Ohana 26. zinkysd 27. roadx 28. Tyler 29. Dan 30. C. Cary 31. dfroggy54 32. bubblehide 33. BillyV 34. Mikecollins86 35. fryguy 36. Tattuna 37. Paintnfish 38. kelpangler 39. Aquatic Hunter 40. TheLuckyPig 41. Grego 42. MVC 43. GregAndrew 44. Hatchetman 45. Hobie Shaq1 46. erinoo 47. driftwood 48. cjthomas 49. Adi 50. Zenspearo 51. kurtfish 52. ???????

10-16-2010, 07:51 PM	#93
sharonkayak Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: San Diego Posts: 217	Im in. girls gotta show up too...

10-16-2010, 08:27 PM	#94
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc.. Four Points by Sheraton 8110 Aero Drive San Diego, CA ROLL CALL!!!! 1. Chris 2. dmrides 3. deepdvr 4. dsafety 5. AQUATICHUNTER 6. SteveOOO 7. Dgax65 8. cowboybill 9. Fishionado 10. Old Rookie 11. PAL 12. Joe Beck 13. Kurt 14.Cabojohn 15. The Kid 16. CurtyL 17. Bluesquids 18. jbm 19. Matt 20. Tman 21. Clay 22. newguy01 23. WahooUSMA 24. Corey 25. Ohana 26. zinkysd 27. roadx 28. Tyler 29. Dan 30. C. Cary 31. dfroggy54 32. bubblehide 33. BillyV 34. Mikecollins86 35. fryguy 36. Tattuna 37. Paintnfish 38. kelpangler 39. Aquatic Hunter 40. TheLuckyPig 41. Grego 42. MVC 43. GregAndrew 44. Hatchetman 45. Hobie Shaq1 46. erinoo 47. driftwood 48. cjthomas 49. Adi 50. Zenspearo 51. kurtfish 52. sharonkayak 53. ???????

10-17-2010, 06:01 AM	#96
Margarita Mike Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Posts: 76	I'll be there Chris

10-17-2010, 08:25 AM	#97
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Thanks Grego, but I have dis-owned Trevor! BREAKING NEWS!!! The MLPA is agenda item #3 for Weds Oct 20. The meeting starts at 10 am. Get there before 10AM, so we can coordinate and cede time... etc.. Four Points by Sheraton 8110 Aero Drive San Diego, CA ROLL CALL!!!! 1. Chris 2. dmrides 3. deepdvr 4. dsafety 5. AQUATICHUNTER 6. SteveOOO 7. Dgax65 8. cowboybill 9. Fishionado 10. Old Rookie 11. PAL 12. Joe Beck 13. Kurt 14.Cabojohn 15. The Kid 16. CurtyL 17. Bluesquids 18. jbm 19. Matt 20. Tman 21. Clay 22. newguy01 23. WahooUSMA 24. Corey 25. Ohana 26. zinkysd 27. roadx 28. Tyler 29. Dan 30. C. Cary 31. dfroggy54 32. bubblehide 33. BillyV 34. Mikecollins86 35. fryguy 36. Tattuna 37. Paintnfish 38. kelpangler 39. Aquatic Hunter 40. TheLuckyPig 41. Grego 42. MVC 43. GregAndrew 44. Hatchetman 45. Hobie Shaq1 46. erinoo 47. driftwood 48. cjthomas 49. Adi 50. Zenspearo 51. kurtfish 52. sharonkayak 53. Margarita Mike 54. ???????

10-17-2010, 08:54 AM	#98
Hypoxic1 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Oceanside Posts: 215	we're in Sure its a 10 am arrival or earlier to avoid a rush?

10-18-2010, 09:15 AM	#100
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	Bump!! Hope to see a boatload of you folks Wednesday!