SD CITY COUNCIL MEETING!!!! - Page 3 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

habanero · 10-07-2009, 12:14 PM

I might be able to help with this Ed, so check your PM.

Quote:

Originally Posted by emrliquidlife

Guys I'm having a tough time figuring out how to make this work.

Is there a way I can get the video to one of you guys so that the safety side of the house can be addressed?

Via FTP or something. The vid is some 25 megs so email seems to be out.

Ed

Holy Mackerel · 10-07-2009, 05:08 PM

I was there for 2 hours, and my 9 month old daughter could not take anymore, waiting to speak. But I did fill out an "oppose" form, and turn in my statement. They started calling fisherment an hour after I left. Good to see fellow fishermen there!

Council member Carl DeMaio stated that he had to leave early, but is "Standing with the fishermen on this issue"

PLEASE SEND HIM A THANK YOU email, and to support WG 2.

Watch it live CityTV | City of San Diego (http://www.sandiego.gov/citytv/)


	District 5 Councilmember Carl DeMaio E-mail: carldemaio@sandiego.gov

Holy Mackerel · 10-07-2009, 05:28 PM

Marti Emerald to Coast Keeper, "you failed in your presentation, you used Teddy Roosevelt in your presentation, he was a sportsman, hunter, and fisherman. I cannot support your proposal."

Lightner capitulates with Emerald, and is concerned about the "no take, and contraints in the reserve."

PLEASE EMAIL Thank these people, & give your support to 2!

District 1
Councilmember Sherri Lightner
E-mail: sherrilightner@sandiego.gov

Dont forget DeMaio "with the fishermen on this one."

District 5
Councilmember Carl DeMaio
E-mail: carldemaio@sandiego.gov

Donna Frye: On the fence, "no motion, no action."

donnafrye@sandiego.gov

JoeBeck · 10-07-2009, 06:19 PM

Carl DeMaio left early with the statement the San Diego City Council should side with the fishermen and support closures that are in the fisherman's best interest. He went on to say we have already lost too many jobs and too many industries and we should not lose our legacy.

Marti Emerald also lectured the coastkeepers about trying to sidestep the process at the last minute with basically BS data (she used a some bigger words

) She also rebutted their National Park argument by saying they are all set up for the people to use, enjoy and maintain.

They also all seemed to express not being happy hearing about these closures so late in the game.

Everyone who spoke did an excellent job. I'm home having a beer to celebrate this small victory in the large scale of things. I think Donna Frye did an excellent job running the meeting as well.

FISHIONADO · 10-07-2009, 06:19 PM

Billy closed the deal after Tommy Gomes and John from Oceanside spoke for us. Marti Emerald mentioned that Coastkeeper tried to push something through that wasn't well documented but that she had printed materials with data from reputable sources from Billy. My representative Sherri Lightner said "ditto to that". I didn't get to speak but I was definitely OK with how Donna Frye managed the meeting.

tylerdurden · 10-07-2009, 06:22 PM

Just got off the phone with Billy V

JoeBeck · 10-07-2009, 06:33 PM

Didn't realize that was Billy V. Way to go dropping the facts clear and to the point

!

tylerdurden · 10-07-2009, 06:35 PM

You can watch the video archive here:

http://granicus.sandiego.gov/ViewPub...php?view_id=14

I feel really bad but I just could not make this one, and I have made a lot of these meetings taking my own vacation time off work. So sorry guys for not making it. I am glad there were enough guys to cover.

kurt · 10-07-2009, 06:46 PM

Thank you to everyone who showed up for this one. I just couldn't get away from work. Sounds like good things happened and you guys must have done a great job. Thank you!

FISHIONADO · 10-07-2009, 07:03 PM

Also wanted to say thanks to D-Gax for throwing his minute to Tommy Gomez when Tommy ran out of time, Tommy made very good use of that minute.

habanero · 10-07-2009, 07:04 PM

This thing might have back fired because the City is paying closer attention to the negative economic impact versus hypothetical conservation gains. Great job everyone!

Billy, you nailed it!

Holy Mackerel · 10-07-2009, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

You can watch the video archive here:

http://granicus.sandiego.gov/ViewPub...php?view_id=14

I feel really bad but I just could not make this one, and I have made a lot of these meetings taking my own vacation time off work. So sorry guys for not making it. I am glad there were enough guys to cover.

You, Kurt, and the regular MLPA attendees, owe ZERO apologies, btw, Tyler, thanks for your research to help us on speaking points today!

Tman · 10-07-2009, 07:11 PM

Way to go guys, esp you da man Billy V....

Wish I too could have made it, slammed at work today, I will be watching it later...figure I will be in the office all night.

Thanks to all those who attended, even Chris and his baby girl toughing it out. Thank you to the Council Members who realize the impact this would've had on our economy.

And shame on you Coastkeepers...your tactic was called a bait and switch. We fishermen know it all too well and you got called on it.

Again to those that spoke....

We all owe ya a cold one...

Billy V · 10-07-2009, 07:35 PM

My biggest fear was that I would not get a chance to speak, so I pushed to the front and begged for 3 minutes. Siting the ceded time from David Johnson a La Jolla Swimmer, Mr. Chris Fierro who had to cut short the meeting because of his beautiful baby daughter, and my friend Don.
I was not going to be shut down, or cast aside.

In those 3 minutes I took the opportunity to slam The Coast Keeper Proposal for the misleading, greasy fastball they tried to throw past our city council members, and the residents of San Diego.
They should be ashamed of themselves, and are now exposed for the rogue environmental group that they are.

-That presentation, and the materials presented were a collaboration of our core members efforts, including our brothers from the North.

It was also personal.
The RSG member Garth Murphy who spoke today on behalf of Coast Keeper took the opportunity to back stab several of us kayak fisherman after all but guaranteeing our right to fish North of Scripps Pier. He lied to our faces with the 11th hour submission of a reserve north of Scripps Pier and submission of the Dip Net Clause.
This was pay back.
------------------------------
Its a little draining for me, as my emotions, and passion for our sport was doing the talking up there.

tylerdurden · 10-07-2009, 08:08 PM

Billy V, I want my commission for the speech you gave

. Nice work. Way to close out the deal.

Marti Emerald, Carl DeMaio, Sherri Lightner seemed very sympathetic.

"There is no motion, there is no action out of this committee, the meeting is adjourned."

Billy V · 10-07-2009, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tylerdurden

Billy V, I want my commission for the speech you gave

. Nice work. Way to close out the deal.

Marti Emerald, Carl DeMaio, Sherri Lightner seemed very sympathetic.

"There is no motion, there is no action out of this committee, the meeting is adjourned."

As I said,
-That presentation, and the materials presented were a collaboration of our core members efforts, including our brothers from the North.

Your words were there to seal that deal, Grego's documentary evidence, and my pent up fury for the injustice we are all being subject to.

-There's (1) more game left, The Super Bowl on Oct. 21st.

Holy Mackerel · 10-07-2009, 09:21 PM

All involved excellent collaboration...

Billy, excellent job presenting! Major props!

Let this be a lesson to all the kayakers looking at this thread, we need overwhelming presence on 10-21 in Long Beach, there are many who have sacrificed vacation, or sick leave, time away from family. If you have been on the fence, now is the time to make a commitment to attend the LAST MLPA meeting!

Post up!

http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...5589#post45589

emrliquidlife · 10-08-2009, 12:49 AM

Amen,

I'm relived.

As a single dad with a daughter, I had a tough time making last minute decisions. But when I didn't hear from habenaro, I actually felt like things were working in a positive direction.

Emails with thanks are now being made to the two council members noted.

Ed

Sherm · 10-08-2009, 08:52 AM

Great seeing you all there yesterday. What a great outcome. We need to keep this up until the next meeting later this month.

FISHIONADO · 10-08-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sherm

Great seeing you all there yesterday. What a great outcome. We need to keep this up until the next meeting later this month.

It was worth it to see you in a suit!

I was very happy with the outcome, I disagree with Coastkeeper on this issue, but I do not consider them the "enemy". As a surfer I've been soaking in our coastal waters for the last 30 years, without Coastkeeper and Surfrider our waters would be much more polluted than they already are. I also disagree with Surfrider positions occasionally but I remain a member because of the good things they do upstream to keep the pollution out of our coastal waters.

Hope to see _everyone_ on the 21st in Long Beach.

10-07-2009, 06:22 PM	#46
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Just got off the phone with Billy V __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

10-07-2009, 06:35 PM	#48
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	You can watch the video archive here: http://granicus.sandiego.gov/ViewPub...php?view_id=14 I feel really bad but I just could not make this one, and I have made a lot of these meetings taking my own vacation time off work. So sorry guys for not making it. I am glad there were enough guys to cover. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

10-07-2009, 06:46 PM	#49
kurt Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: 2 inches above sea level Posts: 503	Thank you to everyone who showed up for this one. I just couldn't get away from work. Sounds like good things happened and you guys must have done a great job. Thank you! __________________ "All I got was a rock"

10-07-2009, 07:11 PM	#53
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Way to go guys, esp you da man Billy V.... Wish I too could have made it, slammed at work today, I will be watching it later...figure I will be in the office all night. Thanks to all those who attended, even Chris and his baby girl toughing it out. Thank you to the Council Members who realize the impact this would've had on our economy. And shame on you Coastkeepers...your tactic was called a bait and switch. We fishermen know it all too well and you got called on it. Again to those that spoke.... We all owe ya a cold one... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

10-07-2009, 07:35 PM	#54
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	My biggest fear was that I would not get a chance to speak, so I pushed to the front and begged for 3 minutes. Siting the ceded time from David Johnson a La Jolla Swimmer, Mr. Chris Fierro who had to cut short the meeting because of his beautiful baby daughter, and my friend Don. I was not going to be shut down, or cast aside. In those 3 minutes I took the opportunity to slam The Coast Keeper Proposal for the misleading, greasy fastball they tried to throw past our city council members, and the residents of San Diego. They should be ashamed of themselves, and are now exposed for the rogue environmental group that they are. -That presentation, and the materials presented were a collaboration of our core members efforts, including our brothers from the North. It was also personal. The RSG member Garth Murphy who spoke today on behalf of Coast Keeper took the opportunity to back stab several of us kayak fisherman after all but guaranteeing our right to fish North of Scripps Pier. He lied to our faces with the 11th hour submission of a reserve north of Scripps Pier and submission of the Dip Net Clause. This was pay back. ------------------------------ Its a little draining for me, as my emotions, and passion for our sport was doing the talking up there. Last edited by Billy V; 10-08-2009 at 02:43 PM.

10-07-2009, 06:19 PM	#44
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	Carl DeMaio left early with the statement the San Diego City Council should side with the fishermen and support closures that are in the fisherman's best interest. He went on to say we have already lost too many jobs and too many industries and we should not lose our legacy. Marti Emerald also lectured the coastkeepers about trying to sidestep the process at the last minute with basically BS data (she used a some bigger words ) She also rebutted their National Park argument by saying they are all set up for the people to use, enjoy and maintain. They also all seemed to express not being happy hearing about these closures so late in the game. Everyone who spoke did an excellent job. I'm home having a beer to celebrate this small victory in the large scale of things. I think Donna Frye did an excellent job running the meeting as well.

10-07-2009, 06:19 PM	#45
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	Billy closed the deal after Tommy Gomes and John from Oceanside spoke for us. Marti Emerald mentioned that Coastkeeper tried to push something through that wasn't well documented but that she had printed materials with data from reputable sources from Billy. My representative Sherri Lightner said "ditto to that". I didn't get to speak but I was definitely OK with how Donna Frye managed the meeting.

10-07-2009, 06:33 PM	#47
JoeBeck Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: San Diego Posts: 370	Didn't realize that was Billy V. Way to go dropping the facts clear and to the point !

10-07-2009, 07:03 PM	#50
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	Also wanted to say thanks to D-Gax for throwing his minute to Tommy Gomez when Tommy ran out of time, Tommy made very good use of that minute.

10-07-2009, 07:04 PM	#51
habanero Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SD Posts: 133	This thing might have back fired because the City is paying closer attention to the negative economic impact versus hypothetical conservation gains. Great job everyone! Billy, you nailed it!

10-07-2009, 08:08 PM	#55
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Billy V, I want my commission for the speech you gave . Nice work. Way to close out the deal. Marti Emerald, Carl DeMaio, Sherri Lightner seemed very sympathetic. "There is no motion, there is no action out of this committee, the meeting is adjourned." __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

10-07-2009, 09:21 PM	#57
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	All involved excellent collaboration... Billy, excellent job presenting! Major props! Let this be a lesson to all the kayakers looking at this thread, we need overwhelming presence on 10-21 in Long Beach, there are many who have sacrificed vacation, or sick leave, time away from family. If you have been on the fence, now is the time to make a commitment to attend the LAST MLPA meeting! Post up! http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/s...5589#post45589

10-08-2009, 12:49 AM	#58
emrliquidlife Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 59	Amen, I'm relived. As a single dad with a daughter, I had a tough time making last minute decisions. But when I didn't hear from habenaro, I actually felt like things were working in a positive direction. Emails with thanks are now being made to the two council members noted. Ed

10-08-2009, 08:52 AM	#59
Sherm Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 490	Great seeing you all there yesterday. What a great outcome. We need to keep this up until the next meeting later this month.