Just got an email - LJ Closure! - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Tman · 06-30-2009, 12:51 PM

According to my sources*, LJ is temporarily closed, 3 miles out from the reserve!

This means:

No launching from LJ shores
No parking on the beach and paddling through the reserve
No landing at LJ shores (if you catch a fish OUTSIDE the reserve, you cannot bring it in to the shores)
Boundaries extend to 3 miles out, to Torrey Pines N, Windansea S
Kayaks can be in the temp reserve, but with no fishing gear present (guess it can be in your hatch, doesn't specify)

Launch options:

Windansea Beach (surf break, watch out for locals = territorial)
N Pacific Beach (minimal parking, some surf, need wheels)
Pacific Beach (surf breaks, long paddle, need wheels)
Mission Beach (surf, sandy bottom, restricted access at times)
Torrey Pines (small breaks, sandy bottom)
Del Mar - Closed
Solana Beach (surf breaks, limited access, bring wheels)

Exceptions:

Show proof of attendance at MLPA meetings, fill out comments or having spoken at said MLPA meetings.

*Sources may not be reliable...but could be...

Billy V · 06-30-2009, 01:43 PM

We are taking names down on an attendance sheet.

If you don't show up and participate to help keep La Jolla open, don't show up to fish there anymore.

Earn it.

MalibuJohnny · 06-30-2009, 03:00 PM

Man you got balls!

Billy V · 06-30-2009, 03:09 PM

Yes I do, the balls to stand up and fight a closure in my fishing area.
La Jolla Shores.

How about you, do you have the balls to do the same ?

FISHIONADO · 06-30-2009, 03:23 PM

First the enviro-whackos were threatening to close La Jolla and now some yahoo is threatening if we don't attend a meeting he is going to stop us from fishing La Jolla. Where is Turko? IT AIN'T RIGHT!

Billy V · 06-30-2009, 03:26 PM

So you don't like to be told what to do ?

How will you feel when you are told La Jolla Shores is closed to all fishing ?

Come to the meeting tonight and tell me how you feel.

Fritz · 06-30-2009, 03:43 PM

Where and when is the meeting?

Billy V · 06-30-2009, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fritz

Where and when is the meeting?

Tonight -- Tuesday, June 30
Marina Village Conference Ctr.
1936 Quivira Way
San Diego, Ca 92109

Its open from from 5:30 - 8:30 pm tonight.

MalibuJohnny · 06-30-2009, 03:52 PM

Yes I do... I have the money to support the cause, and have made my donations. I have sent my letters (as requested) to everyone listed on these posts. Just because I can't make it to "YOUR" location dose not mean I am not supporting the same thing.ffice

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You think so small... with so little effort

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Remember that there are many of us doing the same thing… who in the heck do you think you are? Don’t forget the many that support this cause from other cities. Just because YOU can make it to YOUR location doesn’t mean that the others don’t want to do the same.

I think that part of the problem is people like you are representing the people who deserve it with or without you!

Go bang your chest somewhere else! My word!

dorado50 · 06-30-2009, 03:55 PM

Billy is a good guy! He's just very concerned about these potential closures! By the wayTman, how much is the fine?

tylerdurden · 06-30-2009, 03:59 PM

Billy V and Tman are trying to get the San Diego guys to turn out. Some of us are sick of seeing each other at this things and we need new faces to help. Flat out we need more guys. Donating money is nice, but what is really needed is your time. If you live in Malibu, go to the closest meetings to you. We need numbers at all these meetings. Tonight is especially important as it is the last one in SD and not enough guys showed up last night.

MalibuJohnny · 06-30-2009, 04:14 PM

BULLY V has gone about it the wrong way! This site hammers everyone everyday on this like Chicken Little! There you go BULLY V ! Another name for you!ffice

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Know that all of us understand the implications of our actions. Most of the people who are organizing this seem to have everything to loose base on being a local. Get a grip! Money, letters, e-mails are all the support some can give!

Be thankful that WE are supporting this as much as we can! YOU should get back in line and face forward!

Tman · 06-30-2009, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MalibuJohnny

I think that part of the problem is people like you are representing the people who deserve it with or without you!

Hold on, gimme a sec, I'll think of something as soon as I understand just WTF you are trying to convey...

First of all, my initial post was meant to get people thinking, meant in jest..

As far as Billy goes, he has been busting his arse on this, handing out fliers, attending meetings, etc. not only for himself, but others.

Nobody demands you to show up to save LJ, worry about your own area.
We don't expect you to make the drive, but we were stoked ('we' being the SD residents) to see guys from LA make it down.

Donations, comments are great, but to our adversary, anyone can fill out comments and sign a name to them - being present and voicing your concerns is what they will remember. Did you make the Oxnard meeting?
Just a question, that's all...

My opinion? Not that is it your biz, but I think he is doing very nicely in representing our (again, SD) interests.

Oh, and Dave?
You have a LJ coastal zip - the fine for you will be way up there...

MalibuJohnny · 06-30-2009, 04:27 PM

"We are taking names down on an attendance sheet".

"If you don't show up and participate to help keep La Jolla open, don't show up to fish there anymore".

"Earn it."

WTF is what I mean... don't represent me! This is not the way to move people! Common now!

As far as Billy goes, he has been busting his arse on this, handing out fliers, attending meetings, etc. not only for himself, but others.

Some people should just hand out fliers!

OK, I am done with this!

cabojohn · 06-30-2009, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tman

First of all, my initial post was meant to get people thinking, meant in jest..

Bingo- I think you hit the nail on the head.

C'mon guys...we are all in this together...we all want to keep our local fishing grounds from being closed. Were on the same side here. Go easy guys. Please attend the MLPA meetings if you can.

erinoo · 06-30-2009, 04:50 PM

I won't be there tonight Billy V, so take my name down..Eric Noonan..

Not because I don't want to, but impossible for me for reasons beyond my control, actually none of your business...YOU don't want these restrictions anymore more than I do. I have given what I can and will continue to do so...I'm sure you are sincere about the cause, so are alot of others..ease up a little.....

Tman · 06-30-2009, 04:52 PM

Message conveyed. I will ask Billy to quit being such a bully.

I would tell him to, but, after all, he is a bully, and ya know how bullies get when you tell them to do something...kapow, knuckle sammich...

And from now on he will be relegated to being the flier hander outer.
At least I will ask that he just do that.

Again, the bully thing, you know, kapow, knuckle sammich...

Common now!

Billy V · 06-30-2009, 05:24 PM

Come On Johnny, Spit the Hook. lmao

Don't get your panties in a bunch, just show up and write out your public comment like the rest of us. (sheesh) some guys just don't get it.

Your money is not going to cut it at this point. Remember this is a Public Based Process, they want Your Input, not your money.
---------------
On my way to Girls Gone Wild.

Gino · 06-30-2009, 05:53 PM

The chicken little comment was funny!

Taking attendance!
if you dont show up to the Laguna MLPA workshop tomorrow night! you cant fish Dana or Laguna ever again either! I have a 50. cal mounted on the front of my new Proweler Big Game and I only fish the at harbor entrance!

I want to be a bully!

Grego · 06-30-2009, 06:09 PM

Ok, it's 6:00 pm now....game time, will resume after...8:30 pm.

06-30-2009, 12:51 PM	#1
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Just got an email - LJ Closure! According to my sources, LJ is temporarily closed, 3 miles out from the reserve! This means: No launching from LJ shores No parking on the beach and paddling through the reserve No landing at LJ shores (if you catch a fish OUTSIDE the reserve, you cannot bring it in to the shores) Boundaries extend to 3 miles out, to Torrey Pines N, Windansea S Kayaks can be in the temp reserve, but with no fishing gear present (guess it can be in your hatch, doesn't specify) Launch options: Windansea Beach (surf break, watch out for locals = territorial) N Pacific Beach (minimal parking, some surf, need wheels) Pacific Beach (surf breaks, long paddle, need wheels) Mission Beach (surf, sandy bottom, restricted access at times) Torrey Pines (small breaks, sandy bottom) Del Mar - Closed Solana Beach (surf breaks, limited access, bring wheels) Exceptions: Show proof of attendance at MLPA meetings, fill out comments or having spoken at said MLPA meetings. Sources may not be reliable...but could be... __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-30-2009, 03:00 PM	#3
MalibuJohnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lahina (I Wish) Posts: 272	WTF Man you got balls! __________________ Malibu Johnny must catch fish

06-30-2009, 03:43 PM	#7
Fritz Junior Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Carlsbad Posts: 15	Meeting Where and when is the meeting?

06-30-2009, 03:52 PM	#9
MalibuJohnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lahina (I Wish) Posts: 272	WTF again! Yes I do... I have the money to support the cause, and have made my donations. I have sent my letters (as requested) to everyone listed on these posts. Just because I can't make it to "YOUR" location dose not mean I am not supporting the same thing.fficeffice" You think so small... with so little effort. Remember that there are many of us doing the same thing… who in the heck do you think you are? Don’t forget the many that support this cause from other cities. Just because YOU can make it to YOUR location doesn’t mean that the others don’t want to do the same. I think that part of the problem is people like you are representing the people who deserve it with or without you! Go bang your chest somewhere else! My word! __________________ Malibu Johnny must catch fish Last edited by MalibuJohnny; 06-30-2009 at 03:53 PM. Reason: Typo

06-30-2009, 03:59 PM	#11
tylerdurden Bad Clone Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 874	Billy V and Tman are trying to get the San Diego guys to turn out. Some of us are sick of seeing each other at this things and we need new faces to help. Flat out we need more guys. Donating money is nice, but what is really needed is your time. If you live in Malibu, go to the closest meetings to you. We need numbers at all these meetings. Tonight is especially important as it is the last one in SD and not enough guys showed up last night. __________________ MLPA, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem Let the Fish and Game Commission know what you think about the proposed maps. Be ready for December 9th and 10th.

06-30-2009, 01:43 PM	#2
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	We are taking names down on an attendance sheet. If you don't show up and participate to help keep La Jolla open, don't show up to fish there anymore. Earn it.

06-30-2009, 03:09 PM	#4
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Yes I do, the balls to stand up and fight a closure in my fishing area. La Jolla Shores. How about you, do you have the balls to do the same ?

06-30-2009, 03:23 PM	#5
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	First the enviro-whackos were threatening to close La Jolla and now some yahoo is threatening if we don't attend a meeting he is going to stop us from fishing La Jolla. Where is Turko? IT AIN'T RIGHT!

06-30-2009, 03:26 PM	#6
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	So you don't like to be told what to do ? How will you feel when you are told La Jolla Shores is closed to all fishing ? Come to the meeting tonight and tell me how you feel.

06-30-2009, 03:55 PM	#10
dorado50 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: La Jolla Shores Posts: 1,626	Billy is a good guy! He's just very concerned about these potential closures! By the wayTman, how much is the fine?

06-30-2009, 04:14 PM	#12
MalibuJohnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lahina (I Wish) Posts: 272	Your asking for help? BULLY V has gone about it the wrong way! This site hammers everyone everyday on this like Chicken Little! There you go BULLY V ! Another name for you!fficeffice" Know that all of us understand the implications of our actions. Most of the people who are organizing this seem to have everything to loose base on being a local. Get a grip! Money, letters, e-mails are all the support some can give! Be thankful that WE are supporting this as much as we can! YOU should get back in line and face forward! __________________ Malibu Johnny must catch fish Last edited by MalibuJohnny; 06-30-2009 at 04:14 PM. Reason: Typo

06-30-2009, 04:27 PM	#14
MalibuJohnny Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Lahina (I Wish) Posts: 272	Convey this a clear sign of the wheels comming off! "We are taking names down on an attendance sheet". "If you don't show up and participate to help keep La Jolla open, don't show up to fish there anymore". "Earn it." WTF is what I mean... don't represent me! This is not the way to move people! Common now! As far as Billy goes, he has been busting his arse on this, handing out fliers, attending meetings, etc. not only for himself, but others. Some people should just hand out fliers! OK, I am done with this! __________________ Malibu Johnny must catch fish

06-30-2009, 04:50 PM	#16
erinoo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Carlsbad,,Halfway up the Hill Posts: 486	I won't be there tonight Billy V, so take my name down..Eric Noonan.. Not because I don't want to, but impossible for me for reasons beyond my control, actually none of your business...YOU don't want these restrictions anymore more than I do. I have given what I can and will continue to do so...I'm sure you are sincere about the cause, so are alot of others..ease up a little.....

06-30-2009, 04:52 PM	#17
Tman BRTF...bought & paid... Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1,247	Message conveyed. I will ask Billy to quit being such a bully. I would tell him to, but, after all, he is a bully, and ya know how bullies get when you tell them to do something...kapow, knuckle sammich... And from now on he will be relegated to being the flier hander outer. At least I will ask that he just do that. Again, the bully thing, you know, kapow, knuckle sammich... Common now! __________________ Adios Tman Gaffer for Clay the Fishcatcher

06-30-2009, 05:24 PM	#18
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Come On Johnny, Spit the Hook. lmao Don't get your panties in a bunch, just show up and write out your public comment like the rest of us. (sheesh) some guys just don't get it. Your money is not going to cut it at this point. Remember this is a Public Based Process, they want Your Input, not your money. --------------- On my way to Girls Gone Wild.

06-30-2009, 05:53 PM	#19
Gino Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 520	The chicken little comment was funny! Taking attendance! if you dont show up to the Laguna MLPA workshop tomorrow night! you cant fish Dana or Laguna ever again either! I have a 50. cal mounted on the front of my new Proweler Big Game and I only fish the at harbor entrance! I want to be a bully!

06-30-2009, 06:09 PM	#20
Grego Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 445	Ok, it's 6:00 pm now....game time, will resume after...8:30 pm.