A desperate MLPA Plea!! - Page 3 - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Holy Mackerel · 05-29-2009, 03:27 PM

C'mon Guys n Gals, next year, there will no longer be any of these threads, just a decision we need to live with, so let's voice our opinion on the decision making process!!

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Zen
4. Tyler
5. Corey
6. Fallon
7. Steve Green
8. fryguy?
9. Kurt
10. Charles
11. Grego
12. Steveooo (Probably)
13. Buttchaser
14. Trevor
15. Joy
16. Joy's son
17. T-man
18. Kiyo
19. Jim Sammons
20. Dan
21. Cabo John (pending work)

June 4th, 2009
9:40AM Public Comment
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel *
6101 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Holy Mackerel · 05-29-2009, 08:24 PM

Bump!! My Supercrew is full of 4 La Jolla anglers!! Fill up your vehicle!

zenspearo · 05-29-2009, 10:27 PM

He he...

21 spearos and counting.... and no shenanigan (unlike the MLPA votes

).

A few more spearos and I'm ready for that Sapporo Premium, Mr. Fiero.

http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=85041

(This is beside the point but 34 BloodyDeckers signed up so far.

)

http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-all-talk.html

There will be some firework on June 4th. They screwed up this time if they think they can just bully consumptives over.

'Cuda · 05-30-2009, 04:34 AM

I'd go but I'm fishing that day.

Just kidding.....it's in my back yard....I gotta go.

herbo · 05-30-2009, 09:49 PM

Quick question,what is the dress code? black T-shirts? What else? are shorts and slaps ok also? (sorry,my normal items I wear any and everywhere).....

H

habanero · 05-31-2009, 03:53 AM

I'm in!!!

Holy Mackerel · 05-31-2009, 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Cuda

I'd go but I'm fishing that day.

Just kidding.....it's in my back yard....I gotta go.

James it will be good to catch up!

Quote:

Originally Posted by herbo

Quick question,what is the dress code? black T-shirts? What else? are shorts and slaps ok also? (sorry,my normal items I wear any and everywhere).....

H

Black shirt, wear what was comfortable.

Habenero thanks for coming to another meeting!

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Tyler
4. Corey
5. Fallon
6. Steve Green
7. fryguy?
8. Kurt
9. Charles
10. Grego
11. Steveooo (Probably)
12. Buttchaser
13. Trevor
14. Joy
15. Joy's son
16. T-man
17. Kiyo
18. Jim Sammons
19. Dan
20. Cabo John (pending work)
21. James
22. Herbo
23. Habenero

June 4th, 2009
9:40AM Public Comment
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel *
6101 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Billy V · 05-31-2009, 12:10 PM

Billy V
and
Don will attend.

THE DARKHORSE · 05-31-2009, 12:40 PM

Hours of traffic both ways and public speaking, two things I hate more than anything in the world...I can't wait!

PAL · 05-31-2009, 02:37 PM

Thank-you guys, to each and every one of you who is making the trip to speak up for your fisheries and businesses.

To those who can't make it, please make sure to send your comments by letter. It's the least anyone who might be affected by an MLPA closure should do.

Grego · 05-31-2009, 04:01 PM

Should someone call the LA Times or SD Tribune to let them know there's going to be a good story to cover? Lots of angry people at one place screaming at a committee chosen by our bankrupt state government...potential for law enforcement to keep things in check...that would catch their attention.

THE DARKHORSE · 05-31-2009, 05:03 PM

TURKO

On a serious note, if anyone has some pull in this department a little publicity could really help us out.

Willy · 05-31-2009, 08:32 PM

I'm in.

I can't let this pass and be mad forever if they make a bad decision and I did nothing.

When they came for the Jews, I did nothing, for I am not a Jew. When they came for the Socialists, I did nothing, for I am not a Socialist. When they came for the labor leaders, the homosexuals, the gypsies, I did nothing, for I am none of these, and when they came for me, I was alone, there was no one to stand up for me. -- Martin Niemoller, a Lutheran pastor from Nazi Germany

At least we can feel like we gave it a shot.

Willy

Billy V · 05-31-2009, 09:26 PM

We sure are going to give them a fight Willy.
-You are making the right decision to take action.

Thank You
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'Cuda · 06-01-2009, 03:25 AM

Since the meeting is at 9:40, should we set a time to meet and stategize?

FISHIONADO · 06-01-2009, 07:28 AM

I can't go this time. It was great seeing so many of you at the Santa Ana meeting last month. From what I observed I have a few recommendations.

Manage your emotion, some people (not kayakers) came across as angry, the audience doesn't hear the message of the angry person. Angry people are fun to watch but no ones takes them serious.

Say something like "I'm an environmetalist, I care more about this ecosystem than most people".

Don't show off any big fish you caught recently, especially sharks.

Stay away from "catch and release" justifications. Many people including myself don't understand why people get joy dominating and ripping lips of cute little fishies just to throw them back in the water. "Sustainable consumption" based on DFG monitoring may be more appropriate. YMMV on this one.

Holy Mackerel · 06-01-2009, 07:42 AM

Dave is correct, we need to convey our message of contempt, but in an appropriate manner.

Cuda, a few of us will help coordinate the public speaking, along with Joe aka Zenspearo.

1. Chris
2. Moyer
3. Tyler
4. Corey
5. Fallon
6. Steve Green
7. fryguy?
8. Kurt
9. Charles
10. Grego
11. Steveooo (Probably)
12. Buttchaser
13. Trevor
14. Joy
15. Joy's son
16. T-man
17. Kiyo
18. Jim Sammons
19. Dan
20. Cabo John (pending work)
21. James
22. Herbo
23. Habenero
24. Billy V.
25. Don
26. Josh
27. Willy

and more from Baytuber site!!

June 4th, 2009
9:40AM Public Comment
Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel *
6101 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90045

Willy · 06-01-2009, 07:48 AM

I understand the public comment section is at 9.40, but what time does the entrie event begin, and are we planning a specific time to meet beforehand?

By the way, kudos to those taking the lead on this and organizing the troops.

Willy

C. Cary · 06-01-2009, 08:33 AM

I can't make the meeting this week. I was at the Santa Ana one. It wa very enlightening to attend. I am by no means a great public speaker and was able to get up and put in my opinion. Don't let the speaking part keep you from attending. You need to let your voice be heard. Speak from the heart, it doesn't need to be the best speech we all have ever heard. But be heard, don't regret it later.

C. Cary

Holy Mackerel · 06-01-2009, 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Willy

I understand the public comment section is at 9.40, but what time does the entrie event begin, and are we planning a specific time to meet beforehand?

By the way, kudos to those taking the lead on this and organizing the troops.

Willy

I'd try to get there by 8AM, so you can fill out a card to speak, or cede your time!

Thank you for attending participating!

We have a lot of people stepping up here, but there are still hiding behind their keyboards rationalizing why they can't make it, work, etc. This process is 2/3 over, and I have said before unless you have surgery, you must attend. Work is not an excuse, many of us on this list, have work obligations, but are attending anyway.

It is the 4th quarter, 2 mins left, are you gonna punt? or punch that F-in ball in the endzone!!!

05-29-2009, 10:27 PM	#43
zenspearo Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 167	He he... 21 spearos and counting.... and no shenanigan (unlike the MLPA votes). A few more spearos and I'm ready for that Sapporo Premium, Mr. Fiero. http://www.spearboard.com/showthread.php?t=85041 (This is beside the point but 34 BloodyDeckers signed up so far. ) http://www.bloodydecks.com/forums/ma...-all-talk.html There will be some firework on June 4th. They screwed up this time if they think they can just bully consumptives over. __________________ A spearo, but we are in this MLPA mess together

05-30-2009, 09:49 PM	#45
herbo Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canyon Country, Ca. Posts: 116	Quick question,what is the dress code? black T-shirts? What else? are shorts and slaps ok also? (sorry,my normal items I wear any and everywhere).....H __________________ mellow yellow malibu eXtreme

05-31-2009, 12:40 PM	#49
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	Stoked...I'm in! Hours of traffic both ways and public speaking, two things I hate more than anything in the world...I can't wait! __________________

05-31-2009, 05:03 PM	#52
THE DARKHORSE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Seven minutes from the launch! Posts: 987	One names comes to mind... TURKO On a serious note, if anyone has some pull in this department a little publicity could really help us out. __________________

05-29-2009, 03:27 PM	#41
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	C'mon Guys n Gals, next year, there will no longer be any of these threads, just a decision we need to live with, so let's voice our opinion on the decision making process!! 1. Chris 2. Moyer 3. Zen 4. Tyler 5. Corey 6. Fallon 7. Steve Green 8. fryguy? 9. Kurt 10. Charles 11. Grego 12. Steveooo (Probably) 13. Buttchaser 14. Trevor 15. Joy 16. Joy's son 17. T-man 18. Kiyo 19. Jim Sammons 20. Dan 21. Cabo John (pending work) June 4th, 2009 9:40AM Public Comment Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel * 6101 West Century Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90045

05-29-2009, 08:24 PM	#42
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Bump!! My Supercrew is full of 4 La Jolla anglers!! Fill up your vehicle!

05-30-2009, 04:34 AM	#44
'Cuda Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 224	I'd go but I'm fishing that day. Just kidding.....it's in my back yard....I gotta go.

05-31-2009, 03:53 AM	#46
habanero Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: SD Posts: 133	I'm in!!!

05-31-2009, 12:10 PM	#48
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	Billy V and Don will attend.

05-31-2009, 02:37 PM	#50
PAL Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 754	Thank-you guys, to each and every one of you who is making the trip to speak up for your fisheries and businesses. To those who can't make it, please make sure to send your comments by letter. It's the least anyone who might be affected by an MLPA closure should do.

05-31-2009, 04:01 PM	#51
Grego Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 445	Should someone call the LA Times or SD Tribune to let them know there's going to be a good story to cover? Lots of angry people at one place screaming at a committee chosen by our bankrupt state government...potential for law enforcement to keep things in check...that would catch their attention.

05-31-2009, 08:32 PM	#53
Willy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: La Jolla Posts: 189	I'm in. I can't let this pass and be mad forever if they make a bad decision and I did nothing. When they came for the Jews, I did nothing, for I am not a Jew. When they came for the Socialists, I did nothing, for I am not a Socialist. When they came for the labor leaders, the homosexuals, the gypsies, I did nothing, for I am none of these, and when they came for me, I was alone, there was no one to stand up for me. -- Martin Niemoller, a Lutheran pastor from Nazi Germany At least we can feel like we gave it a shot. Willy

05-31-2009, 09:26 PM	#54
Billy V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Bay Ho Posts: 1,382	We sure are going to give them a fight Willy. -You are making the right decision to take action. Thank You ------------------------------

06-01-2009, 03:25 AM	#55
'Cuda Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 224	Since the meeting is at 9:40, should we set a time to meet and stategize?

06-01-2009, 07:28 AM	#56
FISHIONADO Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 698	I can't go this time. It was great seeing so many of you at the Santa Ana meeting last month. From what I observed I have a few recommendations. Manage your emotion, some people (not kayakers) came across as angry, the audience doesn't hear the message of the angry person. Angry people are fun to watch but no ones takes them serious. Say something like "I'm an environmetalist, I care more about this ecosystem than most people". Don't show off any big fish you caught recently, especially sharks. Stay away from "catch and release" justifications. Many people including myself don't understand why people get joy dominating and ripping lips of cute little fishies just to throw them back in the water. "Sustainable consumption" based on DFG monitoring may be more appropriate. YMMV on this one.

06-01-2009, 07:42 AM	#57
Holy Mackerel Señor member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,627	Dave is correct, we need to convey our message of contempt, but in an appropriate manner. Cuda, a few of us will help coordinate the public speaking, along with Joe aka Zenspearo. 1. Chris 2. Moyer 3. Tyler 4. Corey 5. Fallon 6. Steve Green 7. fryguy? 8. Kurt 9. Charles 10. Grego 11. Steveooo (Probably) 12. Buttchaser 13. Trevor 14. Joy 15. Joy's son 16. T-man 17. Kiyo 18. Jim Sammons 19. Dan 20. Cabo John (pending work) 21. James 22. Herbo 23. Habenero 24. Billy V. 25. Don 26. Josh 27. Willy and more from Baytuber site!! June 4th, 2009 9:40AM Public Comment Sheraton Gateway Los Angeles Hotel * 6101 West Century Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90045

06-01-2009, 07:48 AM	#58
Willy Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: La Jolla Posts: 189	I understand the public comment section is at 9.40, but what time does the entrie event begin, and are we planning a specific time to meet beforehand? By the way, kudos to those taking the lead on this and organizing the troops. Willy

06-01-2009, 08:33 AM	#59
C. Cary Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Carmel Valley Posts: 105	I can't make the meeting this week. I was at the Santa Ana one. It wa very enlightening to attend. I am by no means a great public speaker and was able to get up and put in my opinion. Don't let the speaking part keep you from attending. You need to let your voice be heard. Speak from the heart, it doesn't need to be the best speech we all have ever heard. But be heard, don't regret it later. C. Cary