Fish ID

[f'nsabiki]

Caught this off Del Mar in abought 80' of water--beautiful fish. Some kind of grouper I think. Fought very hard, thought I had a halibut or WSB but no such luck. Yes I know the last pic is a Calico.http://www.bigwatersedge.com/bwevb/a...1&d=1677019701

[Tomol]

Broomtail grouper. Very cool catch. Protected though.

[JohnMckroidJr]

Awesome! Not too many anglers can say they caught a Grouper of Del Mar. I would confirm the broomtail if I could see the tail, but it's not visible in the photos. Congratulations!

[katchfish]

Awesome catch!

https://www.bdoutdoors.com/forums/th.../#post-5682192

[MITCHELL]

First one I've seen on BWE caught in California might be an illegal transplant according to the DFG.

[vincentek9]

definitely looks like a broomtail grouper. I was considering gulf grouper or black grouper as well, but the major identifier here is the pattern between the gill plate and dorsal fin.

broomtail = dark oval, with a white oval inside of it.

super nice catch!

[PapaDave]

Originally Posted by f'nsabiki

Fought very hard, thought I had a halibut or WSB but no such luck.

I hate when that happens... Nice catch none the less, as is the Calico.

[MITCHELL]

To have that as table fare in California legally
No world record class either.

[f'nsabiki]

Originally Posted by MITCHELL

To have that as table fare in California legally
No world record class either.

I am way more worried about having the area around Del Mar and Cardiff closed in the next round of MLPA B---S---. I went to the Fred Hall fishing show last week just to join CCA again.

[MITCHELL]

Originally Posted by f'nsabiki

I am way more worried about having the area around Del Mar and Cardiff closed in the next round of MLPA B---S---. I went to the Fred Hall fishing show last week just to join CCA again.

Think I heard some one say, if you don't join CCA your part of the problem.
If they loose Del marsh there will be alot of pissed off surfers 🏄 ect.....

[f'nsabiki]

Originally Posted by MITCHELL

Think I heard some one say, if you don't join CCA your part of the problem.
If they loose Del marsh there will be alot of pissed off surfers 🏄 ect.....

It won't affect the surfers, in fact, SurfRider was one of the supporters of the original MLPA closures.

[MITCHELL]

Originally Posted by f'nsabiki

It won't affect the surfers, in fact, SurfRider was one of the supporters of the original MLPA closures.

Corrected.....

[lowprofile]

Originally Posted by f'nsabiki

It won't affect the surfers, in fact, SurfRider was one of the supporters of the original MLPA closures.

That’s because fishermen have more legal right to the beach than surfers and they hate it.

[pistol]

Many of us are both surfers and fishermen. We have the same goals and anyone with common sense wants real, practical guidelines to keep the resource strong. MLPA and other closures cause as many problems as they purport to solve. CCA is a great resource and we all should be members. Surfrider, I hate to say, has been taken over by extreme environmentalists, far removed form the founding ideal. Just my two cents if anyone cares

[JohnMckroidJr]

Originally Posted by f'nsabiki

It won't affect the surfers, in fact, SurfRider was one of the supporters of the original MLPA closures.

As much as people hate MLPA's, I believe they are a necessary evil. Having a preserve to allow fish to regenerate, prevents total extinction and spill off makes adjacent areas vastly improved. Years back working on the Freedom, some of the best Calico fishing Clemente was right on the edge of the no-fishing zones of Wilson Cove. If other states are smart they will adopt similar initiatives.

[MITCHELL]

Originally Posted by JohnMckroidJr

As much as people hate MLPA's, I believe they are a necessary evil. Having a preserve to allow fish to regenerate, prevents total extinction and spill off makes adjacent areas vastly improved. Years back working on the Freedom, some of the best Calico fishing Clemente was right on the edge of the no-fishing zones of Wilson Cove. If other states are smart they will adopt similar initiatives.

Pick up some nice reds on the corner boundary

[MITCHELL]

A hedge that never gets cut ✂️
It grows out all over the place

[stevie951]

Originally Posted by JohnMckroidJr

As much as people hate MLPA's, I believe they are a necessary evil. Having a preserve to allow fish to regenerate, prevents total extinction and spill off makes adjacent areas vastly improved. Years back working on the Freedom, some of the best Calico fishing Clemente was right on the edge of the no-fishing zones of Wilson Cove. If other states are smart they will adopt similar initiatives.

this part.. HOWEVER.. Most are also right in the fact that most if all MLPA's never open back up.. Any solid evidence that they actually are improving numbers in certain area to the fact were they should be reopened? Teribly uneducated on my part, and agree with what another user said recently in that I need to join CCA because it seems like they are the last line of defense protecting our fishing rights as recreational fisherman and women

[stevie951]

Originally Posted by stevie951

this part.. HOWEVER.. Most are also right in the fact that most if all MLPA's never open back up.. Any solid evidence that they actually are improving numbers in certain area to the fact were they should be reopened? Teribly uneducated on my part, and agree with what another user said recently in that I need to join CCA because it seems like they are the last line of defense protecting our fishing rights as recreational fisherman and women

Granted i know what happens south of that resticted border no pun intended.. Ive had so much table fare in Baja that I would never in multiple lifetimes be able to try in the states.. that be said is banning species in our waters truly beneficial when south of the border they are harvesting said species left and right.. At this point we may be the last natural aquarium on earth, we've been shown the mass bleaching of the corals and other extintion of species... So the question begs i guess.. Is it simply far too late?

I get it ignorance is bliss but with overpopulation, the depletion of Fish stocks in the Mediterranean, and Red Seas.. Also in the majority of the African Atlantic.. All i'm asking is our attempt at preservation futile at this point due to the simple fact that depletion is world wide..


Just glad that for now the cows have migrated here to our backyard in the Southern California Pacific,, Yeee Haw!! But that begs another question.. Ahh,, so much to talk about so little hours in the day.. Time for another whiskey

[stevie951]

PS.. The downfall of this site is partially due to the rise in BFT catch locally.. I mean come on we all started talking about it 2015 2016 if they where gonna be around to stay.. Kayak fisherman catching Blue Fin were legends in their standing as we had to paddle 5 miles off shore for even a minute chance of latching on to a football size bft who would still take us for a sleigh ride vs a 350 lb cow we knew where out there just waiting to eat a popper.. But how would you handle that 5 miles off shore on a peddle kayak We knew some were landing them on kayaks back then but now you can just jump on a 3/4 day outta Dana and limit which back then we would have said was an alternate universe so why would anyone still be gung ho about a $4k hobie lol..

Now we have seen viral videos of 100 pounders circling our harbors lost at sea so to speak.. Kinda like how the albacore came and went in the early 2000's.. Who knows