Name that Return - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

GregAndrew · 01-08-2019, 09:28 PM

So, I have been playing around with logging my sonar, while out on the water. Then, in conjunction with my downrigger camera I have been comparing what I see on the FF with what my camera sees on the bottom. All of the images are from pictures of my FF, while playing back the logged sonar (read too cheap to pay for a program that will translate my sonar logs or screenshots to something usable on the PC). My new FF only is available in 83/200khz, so about all of my images will be on 83khz. Anyway, here are the first couple to take a crack at.

GregAndrew · 01-08-2019, 09:31 PM

sorry, here is the other image.

rossman · 01-09-2019, 02:32 AM

I'd say a small school of yellows over some micro bait. Where I'm from, those would be red crab but not sure you are seeing them up there. Definitely worth dropping a jig down. Not sure what the point is of the 2nd photo, other that seeing your downrigger cable and more micro bait. Thanks for the waypoint BTW. Although I already had one about 200 yards to the WSW of this one.

jorluivil · 01-09-2019, 04:17 AM

It's the chupacabra

Zed · 01-09-2019, 09:03 AM

He thinks hes got the corner on crabs...
We got crab man.

Denis_Ruso · 01-09-2019, 10:00 AM

I like this game. I'd say the first one looks like bait on the bottom and a schooling predatory fish on top. Deff a school of something rolling through. Yellowtail sometime mark like but can also be some fat jumbo mackerel. Not wormy enough for WSb and not skinny enough for barracuda. So I say yellowtail.

The bottom screenshot is probably a mixture of bait and whitefish based on depth.

jorluivil · 01-09-2019, 10:40 AM

is it stage 4 on Missile Command?

GregAndrew · 01-09-2019, 05:06 PM

Some good interpretations so far. But let me give you a sonar lesson hint. The streak up in the second pic is the downrigger ball being retrieved. There is no cable to see, as I use 100# braid instead of the original cable. Notice what happens to it as it gets closer to the transducer. Also notice how small a 4# lead ball with a GoPro attached looks 120' down. Anyway, here is another image to add to the discussion.

Biggameaddict · 01-09-2019, 07:33 PM

GWS

YakDout · 01-10-2019, 04:37 AM

I was going to guess a yo-yo iron being retrieved back up after dropping on what looks like red crab.

kirkdavis · 01-10-2019, 10:35 AM

Bait is the straight line across the bottom with a halibut coming up to play with it.... Maybe?

Bruntoj · 01-10-2019, 01:41 PM

Straight line a couple of feet above the bottom is your jig. Something bumped or struck it (that last upside down v) and then you started winding it up after feeling the bump.

Or GWS

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YakDout · 01-10-2019, 02:03 PM

This didn’t suck .

YakDout · 01-10-2019, 02:03 PM

Summer of last year ^

GregAndrew · 01-10-2019, 02:44 PM

Ok, got some good possibilities mentioned (and then there was Jorge

). The first log was an assortment of quite a few species over an active structure spot. There were White Fish, Blacksmith Perch, several species of Rock Fish, Sheepsheads and others. No Red Crabs, microbaits or any "baitfish" at all for that matter. I did not get a visual on the predators nearer the surface on camera though.

The second log was a sea of White Fish almost exclusively, but until I pulled the camera up, I was only getting a glimpse of the bottom 15' or so.

The third log shows about 3 minutes of recording time. The first 20 seconds is a decent sized Halibut eyeballing my bait. Then, at least 1 nice YT joins in on the ogling. They both continue to look but not bite for the next minute before the Halibut decides the grapes are sour anyway. At least 1 YT comes in and out of the screen for the next couple of minutes before they too decide the grapes are sour.

Here is a new one. I will give you a hint, cause this one is pretty hard. Notice the color, size and depth.

FISH11 · 01-10-2019, 05:59 PM

Hali.

walrus · 01-10-2019, 07:22 PM

BSB

YakDout · 01-11-2019, 05:01 AM

Kind of weird those are whitefish. You think you’d see a little better target separation than that.

Flounder · 01-11-2019, 08:33 AM

Shark on that last one?

Biggameaddict · 01-11-2019, 11:46 AM

Big ol’ batray

01-09-2019, 02:32 AM	#3
rossman Marginally Irrelevant Join Date: May 2007 Location: Bahia Asuncion Posts: 936	I'd say a small school of yellows over some micro bait. Where I'm from, those would be red crab but not sure you are seeing them up there. Definitely worth dropping a jig down. Not sure what the point is of the 2nd photo, other that seeing your downrigger cable and more micro bait. Thanks for the waypoint BTW. Although I already had one about 200 yards to the WSW of this one. __________________ "When beholding the tranquil beauty and brilliancy of the ocean’s skin, one forgets the tiger heart that pants beneath it; and would not willingly remember that this velvet paw but conceals a remorseless fang. " — Herman Melville Y'all come see me now, hear!

01-09-2019, 04:17 AM	#4
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	It's the chupacabra __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer

01-09-2019, 09:03 AM	#5
Zed BANNED Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: W of 5 Posts: 1,265	He thinks hes got the corner on crabs... We got crab man. __________________ Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day. Give a fish a man and he'll eat for a week.

01-09-2019, 10:00 AM	#6
Denis_Ruso Senior Member Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 571	I like this game. I'd say the first one looks like bait on the bottom and a schooling predatory fish on top. Deff a school of something rolling through. Yellowtail sometime mark like but can also be some fat jumbo mackerel. Not wormy enough for WSb and not skinny enough for barracuda. So I say yellowtail. The bottom screenshot is probably a mixture of bait and whitefish based on depth. __________________ 2018 Hobie Outback 13 I do not fear the storm as it will teach me how to sail my ship.

01-09-2019, 07:33 PM	#9
Biggameaddict The Kayak Peddler Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Hollywood Posts: 591	GWS __________________ Keep your rod close, your gaff closer, and your paddle on a leash.

01-10-2019, 04:37 AM	#10
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	I was going to guess a yo-yo iron being retrieved back up after dropping on what looks like red crab.

01-10-2019, 10:35 AM	#11
kirkdavis Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: SD County Posts: 360	Halibut Bait is the straight line across the bottom with a halibut coming up to play with it.... Maybe?

01-10-2019, 01:41 PM	#12
Bruntoj Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: San Diego County Posts: 168	Straight line a couple of feet above the bottom is your jig. Something bumped or struck it (that last upside down v) and then you started winding it up after feeling the bump. Or GWS Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

01-10-2019, 02:03 PM	#13
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	This didn’t suck .

01-10-2019, 05:59 PM	#16
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	Hali. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

01-10-2019, 07:22 PM	#17
walrus Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Baja fish camp Posts: 478	BSB __________________

01-11-2019, 05:01 AM	#18
YakDout Brandon Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Diego Posts: 2,345	Kind of weird those are whitefish. You think you’d see a little better target separation than that.

01-11-2019, 08:33 AM	#19
Flounder Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 101	Shark on that last one?

01-11-2019, 11:46 AM	#20
Biggameaddict The Kayak Peddler Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Hollywood Posts: 591	Big ol’ batray __________________ Keep your rod close, your gaff closer, and your paddle on a leash.