Paddle or Pedal? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

AndyK · 03-31-2018, 08:15 PM

I've been fishing offshore/islands/local on private boats, my own boat before I sold it and the SD sport boat fleet for years, all while consistently lurking here and watching a lot of members here consistently kill it from their yaks in LJ, OC and DP. There is just something about going out on a floating piece of plastic and pulling on fish as big (often bigger) than the guys that burn gas in boats chasing that appeals to me. Being closer to nature, the cost efficiency, etc.

I'm curious how many of you guys are paddle vs pedal. I have a 14ft Ocean Kayak but haven't been able make the jump over to the Hobie just yet. Id def like to work with what I have and take it out of LJ and SD Bay.

ProfessorLongArms · 03-31-2018, 10:44 PM

I’m spoiiiiiled by my hobie.
Not having to put the rod down and grab the paddle is wonderful.
Plus my shoulder would always give out long before my legs even start to ache on a long haul.

I’m sure I can and will get another non pedal kayak for various applications, but I’m def in love with my outback.

Raskal311 · 03-31-2018, 10:58 PM

Peddle kayaks are like the old Motorola razors and peddle kayaks is like an iPhone 8. Now a hobie with an electric motor is an iPhone 12. People (mostly older folks who can't adopt change) likes those old Motorola and that's ok.

DanaPT · 04-01-2018, 07:02 AM

Just to be fair... there are plenty of guys that kill it OTW with a paddle.

To each their own.

nmeofun · 04-01-2018, 09:44 AM

My back and bad shoulder limited the time and distance I could go with my old paddle kayak. My Hobie allows me to fish until I eat all my snacks and get hungry.

Plus, headwinds aren't much of a problem any more.

Iceman · 04-01-2018, 09:53 AM

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People (mostly older folks who can't adopt change) likes those old Motorola and that's ok.

Yup that is me, I sell Hobie, Jackson, Ocean, Wilderness and Malibu..........I am always quick to tell people there are huge advantages to fishing from a Hobie, but keeping things a little more primal and challenging appeal to me, so I paddle at least as much as I pedal.

It is pretty close comparison to telling a surfer that stand up boards are better, because you can catch a wave easier and ride more waves, it is true, but easier is not always what you are after.

Mahigeer · 04-01-2018, 06:00 PM

If you want exercise and do sightseeing Paddle is fine.

If you want to fish, pedal is better.

I first bought a 14' Malibu and took it out to Baja.

The next trip I had an Outback and was more successful in catching fish.

I put the Malibu on sale. Still available.

dpricenator · 04-02-2018, 07:08 AM

I paddle a 14 ft Ocean Kayak Malibu XL, that I can set up for tandem use or for solo use. Having to put the rod down to reposition the yak is cumbersome in tight spots. Like around the boat slips, or on a rocky point. For a drift It is fine. I paddle out of DP harbor, head up current or up wind for an hour opr so and then drift back down for a couple hours. The Pedals would help me around the kelp beds, so I could fish it from different angles and sides. Currently I just grab a piece of kelp, and put my foot on it to hold myself in place. So you see how that could slow down the fishing. My legs are like tree trunks so I know I could Pedal a Hobie to Catalina, if I wanted too. PRO: the Paddle works out the upper body - CON: The paddle certainly inhibits my success fishing. (or at least that's my excuse). My biggest problem with getting a Pedal power yak, is that for $3,500 or even $2,500 I could buy a 14' skiff with and out board motor. Not only could I get a few miles off shore in the morning for some fish, but Could also cruise the harbor with the wife and or kids. For a strictly fishing set, up in a Yak, I would PEDAL, if I could afford it.

goldenglory18 · 04-02-2018, 07:43 AM

To each his own. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm interested in getting back into competitive fishing and REALLY want to get my hands free, I'd remain perfectly happy in a paddle yak.

I've got a Wildy' Ride 135 and its been a fantastic marina and bay kayak. Super stable, high capacity, and can get you anywhere you can paddle it. Again, if it wasnt for the fact that I want to get back into tournament angling and that bag, I'd be happy as pie.

FISH11 · 04-02-2018, 09:12 AM

After over 5 years of using paddle Malibu X13 and X Factor, a Jackson Cuda 14 kayaks and almost 2 year using a 2016 Hobie Revo, I like then both. Each kayak has it's strong points and Neither is Perfect. I also find that switching Kayaks depending on Surf and Wind condition is the best option and lets me get a work out on all areas of my body and the best handling kayak for the conditions.

ful-rac · 04-02-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by goldenglory18

To each his own. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm interested in getting back into competitive fishing and REALLY want to get my hands free, I'd remain perfectly happy in a paddle yak.

I've got a Wildy' Ride 135 and its been a fantastic marina and bay kayak. Super stable, high capacity, and can get you anywhere you can paddle it. Again, if it wasnt for the fact that I want to get back into tournament angling and that bag, I'd be happy as pie.

Glad to hear you want to get back into tournament fishing. Perfect timing as there is one in 2 weeks the OEX Tournament and the Battle of the Bays coming up in Mission Bay, then Santa Monica Bay in a couple of months. You probably have a good chance at winning the Santa Monica bay one as it's in your backyard.

Saba Slayer · 04-02-2018, 06:13 PM

"I'm curious how many of you guys are paddle vs pedal....?"

You're going to find fanatics for both peddle and paddle...just like you'll find Chevy and Ford guys and then there's the Mercedes and Porsche crowd...

Try as many brands as you can...
You just missed a great opportunity at Andy's Sunset Beach store's demo day last Saturday. He's one of those rare (in So. Cal) "on the water" shops that stocks Hobie's and lots of other brands too.
As great a boat as it is for my style... not everyone can afford a Pro Angler 14' and store it or transport it.
Kayaks are like shoes...not one fits all. What works for one kayak fisherman may not be right for you...Storage, Fishing Style, Type of Launch, Transport and Price are all factors that should come into play when trying to decide on your next kayak.
Good Luck

Mr. NiceGuy · 04-02-2018, 10:55 PM

My only purpose for a kayak is fishing, escapism and enjoying healthy outdoor exercise with nature. I like the lighter weight and transportation ease of my Outback. The overall cardio from pumping the pedals, casting, etc., feels great.

Hobie marketing dept adds improvements every year to keep earlier models growing obsolete at a steady pace. If money were no object, I would like a new one. Until I have more money than I can think of things to buy, my 2014 Outback suits me just fine. It's already paid for and rigged exactly the way I like it.

Fiskadoro · 04-03-2018, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by AndyK

I've been fishing offshore/islands/local on private boats, my own boat before I sold it and the SD sport boat fleet for years, all while consistently lurking here and watching a lot of members here consistently kill it from their yaks in LJ, OC and DP. There is just something about going out on a floating piece of plastic and pulling on fish as big (often bigger) than the guys that burn gas in boats chasing that appeals to me. Being closer to nature, the cost efficiency, etc. I'm curious how many of you guys are paddle vs pedal. I have a 14ft Ocean Kayak but haven't been able make the jump over to the Hobie just yet. Id def like to work with what I have and take it out of LJ and SD Bay.

Each type has it's merits.

Paddling is simpler. No rudder needed etc... a paddle kayak is more indestructible and you can also take a paddle kayak anywhere.

Seriously...

I think peddle is more accessible in some ways. Paddling takes a level of strength and coordination which builds up with time. I mostly paddle I find it's more versatile, keeps you more in touch with the conditions (especially in rough water) and I like the upper body conditioning.

For a newbie I recommenced paddle first until they get the gist. Once your good with paddling using the Hobie drive is a breeze.

Fiskadoro · 04-03-2018, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. NiceGuy

My only purpose for a kayak is fishing, escapism and enjoying healthy outdoor exercise with nature. I like the lighter weight and transportation ease of my Outback..

What does it weigh?

One of my favorite yaks is the mini-X because I can take it anywhere, and launch it through anything. I love it but would not recommend it for La Jolla

Mr. NiceGuy · 04-03-2018, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Fiskadoro

What does it weigh?

Hull weight is 81 lbs. For rigged weight, for lifting it out of my van, I have always guessed around 94 lbs.

Beer, fish, gear, etc., go up from there.

03-31-2018, 08:15 PM	#1
AndyK Junior Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Temecula, CA Posts: 13	Paddle or Pedal? I've been fishing offshore/islands/local on private boats, my own boat before I sold it and the SD sport boat fleet for years, all while consistently lurking here and watching a lot of members here consistently kill it from their yaks in LJ, OC and DP. There is just something about going out on a floating piece of plastic and pulling on fish as big (often bigger) than the guys that burn gas in boats chasing that appeals to me. Being closer to nature, the cost efficiency, etc. I'm curious how many of you guys are paddle vs pedal. I have a 14ft Ocean Kayak but haven't been able make the jump over to the Hobie just yet. Id def like to work with what I have and take it out of LJ and SD Bay. Last edited by AndyK; 03-31-2018 at 08:26 PM.

03-31-2018, 10:58 PM	#3
Raskal311 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Santa Ana/Westminster Posts: 1,256	Peddle kayaks are like the old Motorola razors and peddle kayaks is like an iPhone 8. Now a hobie with an electric motor is an iPhone 12. People (mostly older folks who can't adopt change) likes those old Motorola and that's ok. __________________ Kevin Yellow PA12

04-02-2018, 09:12 AM	#10
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	After over 5 years of using paddle Malibu X13 and X Factor, a Jackson Cuda 14 kayaks and almost 2 year using a 2016 Hobie Revo, I like then both. Each kayak has it's strong points and Neither is Perfect. I also find that switching Kayaks depending on Surf and Wind condition is the best option and lets me get a work out on all areas of my body and the best handling kayak for the conditions. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

04-02-2018, 06:13 PM	#12
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,857	paddle vs pedal...? "I'm curious how many of you guys are paddle vs pedal....?" You're going to find fanatics for both peddle and paddle...just like you'll find Chevy and Ford guys and then there's the Mercedes and Porsche crowd... Try as many brands as you can... You just missed a great opportunity at Andy's Sunset Beach store's demo day last Saturday. He's one of those rare (in So. Cal) "on the water" shops that stocks Hobie's and lots of other brands too. As great a boat as it is for my style... not everyone can afford a Pro Angler 14' and store it or transport it. Kayaks are like shoes...not one fits all. What works for one kayak fisherman may not be right for you...Storage, Fishing Style, Type of Launch, Transport and Price are all factors that should come into play when trying to decide on your next kayak. Good Luck __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer Last edited by Saba Slayer; 04-02-2018 at 08:51 PM.

04-02-2018, 10:55 PM	#13
Mr. NiceGuy Manic for Life Join Date: May 2015 Location: San Diego Posts: 839	My only purpose for a kayak is fishing, escapism and enjoying healthy outdoor exercise with nature. I like the lighter weight and transportation ease of my Outback. The overall cardio from pumping the pedals, casting, etc., feels great. Hobie marketing dept adds improvements every year to keep earlier models growing obsolete at a steady pace. If money were no object, I would like a new one. Until I have more money than I can think of things to buy, my 2014 Outback suits me just fine. It's already paid for and rigged exactly the way I like it. __________________ Another ho-hum day in Paradise

03-31-2018, 10:44 PM	#2
ProfessorLongArms Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 401	I’m spoiiiiiled by my hobie. Not having to put the rod down and grab the paddle is wonderful. Plus my shoulder would always give out long before my legs even start to ache on a long haul. I’m sure I can and will get another non pedal kayak for various applications, but I’m def in love with my outback.

04-01-2018, 07:02 AM	#4
DanaPT Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: South OC Posts: 1,606	Just to be fair... there are plenty of guys that kill it OTW with a paddle. To each their own.

04-01-2018, 09:44 AM	#5
nmeofun Junior Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Mission Viejo Posts: 10	My back and bad shoulder limited the time and distance I could go with my old paddle kayak. My Hobie allows me to fish until I eat all my snacks and get hungry. Plus, headwinds aren't much of a problem any more.

04-01-2018, 06:00 PM	#7
Mahigeer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,897	If you want exercise and do sightseeing Paddle is fine. If you want to fish, pedal is better. I first bought a 14' Malibu and took it out to Baja. The next trip I had an Outback and was more successful in catching fish. I put the Malibu on sale. Still available.

04-02-2018, 07:08 AM	#8
dpricenator Senior Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: South OC Posts: 120	I paddle a 14 ft Ocean Kayak Malibu XL, that I can set up for tandem use or for solo use. Having to put the rod down to reposition the yak is cumbersome in tight spots. Like around the boat slips, or on a rocky point. For a drift It is fine. I paddle out of DP harbor, head up current or up wind for an hour opr so and then drift back down for a couple hours. The Pedals would help me around the kelp beds, so I could fish it from different angles and sides. Currently I just grab a piece of kelp, and put my foot on it to hold myself in place. So you see how that could slow down the fishing. My legs are like tree trunks so I know I could Pedal a Hobie to Catalina, if I wanted too. PRO: the Paddle works out the upper body - CON: The paddle certainly inhibits my success fishing. (or at least that's my excuse). My biggest problem with getting a Pedal power yak, is that for $3,500 or even $2,500 I could buy a 14' skiff with and out board motor. Not only could I get a few miles off shore in the morning for some fish, but Could also cruise the harbor with the wife and or kids. For a strictly fishing set, up in a Yak, I would PEDAL, if I could afford it.

04-02-2018, 07:43 AM	#9
goldenglory18 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 861	To each his own. If it wasn't for the fact that I'm interested in getting back into competitive fishing and REALLY want to get my hands free, I'd remain perfectly happy in a paddle yak. I've got a Wildy' Ride 135 and its been a fantastic marina and bay kayak. Super stable, high capacity, and can get you anywhere you can paddle it. Again, if it wasnt for the fact that I want to get back into tournament angling and that bag, I'd be happy as pie.