Redondo parking petition...? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Saba Slayer · 11-14-2017, 06:18 AM

Check this out and let me know what changes you guys think are needed before it goes to print...

We the undersigned respectfully request that the Redondo Beach Harbor Commission and the City Council reinstate the “hand launch” flat rate for the Marina Parking lot. The hand launch is the only safe location within miles to access the harbor and open ocean for SUPs and Kayaks. Marina Del Rey and San Pedro are the next safe coastal access locations without a dangerous surf launch. This launch is especially helpful for the young, old or the beginner. With the increase to $2 per hour for parking the city has made it more difficult for families and those on lower or set incomes to enjoy a lengthy stay in the harbor.
The flat rate will help to increase the number of people visiting your area and encourage them to spend their money on food, drinks, ice and gas rather than $2 per hour on parking. The on street parking around the lot may also become more congested for local parking if we are forced to unload and then park for free on the city streets.
At this time there are two special rates already existing at the Marina parking lot; the Sport Fishing operation has a special rate for their customers as does the Boat Hoist.
In the past a simple visual inspection by the parking attendant would verify if the car leaving the lot had an SUP or a kayak and they would be eligible for the “hand launch” flat rate.

PLEASE REINSTATE THE “HAND LAUNCH’ FLAT RATE FOR PARKING IN THE REDONDO BEACH KING HARBOR MARINA LOT.

COASTAL ACCESS AND ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE COASTAL ACCESS IS AN INTREGAL PART OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CALIFORNIA COASTLINE AND IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL YOUR LOCAL CONSTITUENTS...ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG, THE OLD AND THE DISABLED.

wiredantz · 11-14-2017, 07:46 AM

sounds good to me

TheBentRod · 11-14-2017, 07:52 AM

I don't know if the regular SUP or small PWC people are getting the discount. Since most of them only stay on for about an hour or two, they may not bother or know about the discount. Do the other businesses validate? I used to go the Redondo Sportfishing for my discount and never tried the other merchants. It would be worth it to buy a beer or burger for the discount if its an option.

I also don't recall any close free street parking in the area.

ful-rac · 11-14-2017, 08:12 AM

Looks good to me!

Short and to the point.

GTboosted · 11-14-2017, 08:37 AM

Is there a simple way to add that some of us launch before the lot attendant gets there? Current policy states that without a ticket, we must get charged maximum value of $30. Happened to us...

jruiz · 11-14-2017, 09:14 AM

Sounds good, thanks Jim.

Mayor Brand was a big endorser of Measure C. One of it's key initiatives was to preserve recreational parking.
http://www.billbrand.org/measure-c/

goldenglory18 · 11-14-2017, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by GTboosted

Is there a simple way to add that some of us launch before the lot attendant gets there? Current policy states that without a ticket, we must get charged maximum value of $30. Happened to us...

Oh jeez, really?

Yeah, that should be captured somewhere if thats the case.....

ful-rac · 11-14-2017, 10:09 AM

Definitely should bring up at the meeting not necessarily write in the petition that during the winter time the normally mostly empty parking lot will be completely empty if they start charging everyone full tilt! And it will force, like you said everyone to park and clog up the surrounding city streets. If nobody park's in the parking lot because of the high cost...whats the purpose of having a parking lot?

GTboosted · 11-14-2017, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by goldenglory18

Oh jeez, really?

Yeah, that should be captured somewhere if thats the case.....

Yup. 30 freaking dollars lol

Luckily we managed to convince them to lower it but I doubt they can do that for us on the regular.

King Saba · 11-14-2017, 05:20 PM

I like it Jim. Let's hope it gets recognized and the parking issue addressed. It seems like the whole harbor area is becoming gentrified making it impossible to have a nice day by the coast if you aren't loaded.

Saba Slayer · 11-14-2017, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by GTboosted

Yup. 30 freaking dollars lol

Luckily we managed to convince them to lower it but I doubt they can do that for us on the regular.

Beto...in all the years that i've been going to the Redondo hand launch I've found that if you drive through the parking lot entrance before 7am the gate is open and you can not get a parking ticket from the machine. As far as I know, the parking lot attendant does not go on duty until 7am and the hourly rates do not start until 7am.
With that in mind...your parking rate starts at 7am and is $2 hourly until you leave. So... if you get there at 5am and stay until 10:59am you should pay $8...or $2 an hour for 4 hours ( from 7am till 10:59am)
The $30 fee seems a little exorbitant...!

With all respect...I don't think this needs to be added to the petition...
I'm hoping to keep it simple and get the flat rate reinstated...

GTboosted · 11-14-2017, 06:12 PM

That's we were thinking also. Maybe the attendant was thinking that we were there from the previous day? But she said that was the policy to charge without a ticket? Whether it's true or not I don't know since we would always get it validated prior to that.

If it is true policy then it should help with the petition. If not then I guess we got the lady on a bad day.

11-14-2017, 06:18 AM	#1
Saba Slayer Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Palos Verdes Posts: 1,855	Redondo parking petition...? Check this out and let me know what changes you guys think are needed before it goes to print... We the undersigned respectfully request that the Redondo Beach Harbor Commission and the City Council reinstate the “hand launch” flat rate for the Marina Parking lot. The hand launch is the only safe location within miles to access the harbor and open ocean for SUPs and Kayaks. Marina Del Rey and San Pedro are the next safe coastal access locations without a dangerous surf launch. This launch is especially helpful for the young, old or the beginner. With the increase to $2 per hour for parking the city has made it more difficult for families and those on lower or set incomes to enjoy a lengthy stay in the harbor. The flat rate will help to increase the number of people visiting your area and encourage them to spend their money on food, drinks, ice and gas rather than $2 per hour on parking. The on street parking around the lot may also become more congested for local parking if we are forced to unload and then park for free on the city streets. At this time there are two special rates already existing at the Marina parking lot; the Sport Fishing operation has a special rate for their customers as does the Boat Hoist. In the past a simple visual inspection by the parking attendant would verify if the car leaving the lot had an SUP or a kayak and they would be eligible for the “hand launch” flat rate. PLEASE REINSTATE THE “HAND LAUNCH’ FLAT RATE FOR PARKING IN THE REDONDO BEACH KING HARBOR MARINA LOT. COASTAL ACCESS AND ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE COASTAL ACCESS IS AN INTREGAL PART OF OUR BEAUTIFUL CALIFORNIA COASTLINE AND IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE TO ALL YOUR LOCAL CONSTITUENTS...ESPECIALLY THE YOUNG, THE OLD AND THE DISABLED. __________________ Jim / Saba Slayer

11-14-2017, 07:46 AM	#2
wiredantz Currently @ MLO Territory Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Under the Shadow Posts: 2,290	sounds good to me __________________ Team: Disbanded You only have one chance in this life...make the right decision(s)...so you don't regret it

11-14-2017, 07:52 AM	#3
TheBentRod Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Murrieta, CA and Bonney Lake, WA Posts: 425	Are others getting the discount? I don't know if the regular SUP or small PWC people are getting the discount. Since most of them only stay on for about an hour or two, they may not bother or know about the discount. Do the other businesses validate? I used to go the Redondo Sportfishing for my discount and never tried the other merchants. It would be worth it to buy a beer or burger for the discount if its an option. I also don't recall any close free street parking in the area.

11-14-2017, 08:12 AM	#4
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Looks good to me! Short and to the point. __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

11-14-2017, 08:37 AM	#5
GTboosted Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lake Balboa, The Valley Posts: 425	Is there a simple way to add that some of us launch before the lot attendant gets there? Current policy states that without a ticket, we must get charged maximum value of $30. Happened to us... __________________ -Beto

11-14-2017, 09:14 AM	#6
jruiz Large Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 1,008	Sounds good, thanks Jim. Mayor Brand was a big endorser of Measure C. One of it's key initiatives was to preserve recreational parking. http://www.billbrand.org/measure-c/ Last edited by jruiz; 11-14-2017 at 10:21 AM.

11-14-2017, 10:09 AM	#8
ful-rac Emperor Join Date: May 2009 Location: Buena Park Posts: 3,649	Definitely should bring up at the meeting not necessarily write in the petition that during the winter time the normally mostly empty parking lot will be completely empty if they start charging everyone full tilt! And it will force, like you said everyone to park and clog up the surrounding city streets. If nobody park's in the parking lot because of the high cost...whats the purpose of having a parking lot? __________________ There's nothing colder than yesterday's hotdog.

11-14-2017, 05:20 PM	#10
King Saba Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: SGV Posts: 848	I like it Jim. Let's hope it gets recognized and the parking issue addressed. It seems like the whole harbor area is becoming gentrified making it impossible to have a nice day by the coast if you aren't loaded. __________________ Baitfish catcher extraordinaire

11-14-2017, 06:12 PM	#12
GTboosted Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lake Balboa, The Valley Posts: 425	That's we were thinking also. Maybe the attendant was thinking that we were there from the previous day? But she said that was the policy to charge without a ticket? Whether it's true or not I don't know since we would always get it validated prior to that. If it is true policy then it should help with the petition. If not then I guess we got the lady on a bad day. __________________ -Beto