Is it worth it ? - Kayak Fishing Adventures on Big Water’s Edge

Fishing619 · 09-04-2017, 08:21 PM

For the people that has upgrade from a paddle
Kayak to a peddle kayak is it worth the money
What is the difference at the end of the day.

jbl_91762 · 09-04-2017, 08:33 PM

best move I've made going to peddle. I enjoyed the workout paddling for a year but only bought a paddle cause I was not sure I'd like kayak fishing AND I didn't want to pay $2k for a paddle. Saved the dough and bought 2016 Hobie Outback and couldn't be happier. To fish and tie knots, eat, drink while moving are incredible! Go save the bucks and join the club!

Orca Winfrey · 09-04-2017, 08:50 PM

I like paddling too, but I'd say yes for fishing. Like jbl said, you will have your hands free to eat and fish on the move. Also a pedal yak lets you hold position over your spot in current and wind.

Pedal yaks also have a huge advantage when going into the wind. I learned this at POLA in 20mph plus winds. I was losing more ground (water?) than I was gaining because the wind was blowing me backwards between every stroke. My buddy ended up towing me in with his Revo 13.

One day I'll give in to the dark side. Meanwhile, I still like paddling and I'm too cheap to get a Hobie.

Raskal311 · 09-04-2017, 09:11 PM

I've fund paddle fishing to be a huge waist of time. Tried it for over a year and hated it; made the switch and never looked back.

The difference is you get much more fishing time and less time $@&&$" around with the paddle fighting and adjusting for the current.

Gr8fuldude · 09-04-2017, 09:25 PM

Made the switch and absolutely no regrets. For all the reasons stated above, hands free for fishing, fighting the wind is much easier, and one more reason is that I have increased range in the hobie. Down at makobobs place, I can comfortably and confidently fish the islands, which are five miles from shore. With the paddle, I wouldn't feel so confident going that far from shore. I can also fish all day as I don't get as tired peddling all day compared to paddling. I say if you can afford it then it really is a no-brainer. I liked paddle-fishing, but I absolutely love peddle-fishing.

King Saba · 09-04-2017, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Orca Winfrey

I like paddling too, but I'd say yes for fishing. Like jbl said, you will have your hands free to eat and fish on the move. Also a pedal yak lets you hold position over your spot in current and wind.

Pedal yaks also have a huge advantage when going into the wind. I learned this at POLA in 20mph plus winds. I was losing more ground (water?) than I was gaining because the wind was blowing me backwards between every stroke. My buddy ended up towing me in with his Revo 13.

One day I'll give in to the dark side. Meanwhile, I still like paddling and I'm too cheap to get a Hobie.

You'll never do it. That kayak funds of your keeps going elsewhere when you need it most. lol!

King Saba · 09-04-2017, 10:58 PM

For reference, I've done 13+ miles in a trip before when I was still in my Revo 13. Wasn't really that tired the next day. Before that, I used to do 4-6mile trips in my wide Malibu Stealth 12 and I was aching and super fatigued the next day.

Pedal kayaks- faster overall, hands free application, and easy to maintain course.

Paddle kayaks- Can be faster if you buy narrow carbon fiber crafts like a stealth profisha, BUT is generally a hassle when trying to hold position.

Overall I love my Hobie kayaks. They're tough, helped me become a better angler, and gives me more time while on the water to focus on fishing rather than maintaining position. But, I do miss paddling for its minimalist application. I take much more caution with my Hobies since there are more moving parts that can break when handled carelessly.

Phu Nguyen · 09-04-2017, 11:33 PM

Can you still fish around San Diego bait barge? Some guy on a sail boat told me yesterday that I can't fish there anymore

Mahigeer · 09-05-2017, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gr8fuldude

Made the switch and absolutely no regrets. For all the reasons stated above, hands free for fishing, fighting the wind is much easier, and one more reason is that I have increased range in the hobie. Down at makobobs place, I can comfortably and confidently fish the islands, which are five miles from shore. With the paddle, I wouldn't feel so confident going that far from shore. I can also fish all day as I don't get as tired peddling all day compared to paddling. I say if you can afford it then it really is a no-brainer. I liked paddle-fishing, but I absolutely love peddle-fishing.

I had the same experience except of going to the island. With my 14' X-factor I had to beach myself and walk to the camp once.

When I got back to LA, I bought a used Outback and now selling my X-factor.

jorluivil · 09-05-2017, 08:54 AM

Here are some pros and cons between pedal and paddle kayak

Pedal kayak pros: everything

pedal kayak cons: none

Just to give you a general idea about some of the advantages with pedal drive kayaks.

Yesterday I was fighting a large fish, while fighting the fish I was able to gain line on the fish by:

1. pedaling
2. use my rudder controls to turn in whatever direction the fish was running
3. use my VHF radio

FISH11 · 09-05-2017, 09:34 AM

I have and like both. My Hobie Revo is great at being able to have hands free and maintaining forward movement against a strong current and wind. Terrible about constantly getting loose kelp caught on the fins or rudder. The rudder pisses me off the most when fly lining a mac at least a couple time a day the fishing line will get caught on the rudder and is a pain to get it off and it has very little usable storage space inside the kayak. My Malibu X Factor is much more stable in choppy water goes out the higher surf better and is more controllable when coming in through the surf. I have had to use both against the strong current and wind. If you paddle often then your arms are in shape, if you don't go out at least once a week then the arms will have a hard time doing it for 4-6 hours non-stop, that I think would be the same for a lot of guys and their legs. THERE IS NO KAYAK, that is all pros and no cons. It is still hard to justify a pedal kayak often costing twice as much, maybe 25%.

goldenglory18 · 09-05-2017, 09:50 AM

I've been a paddler my whole yak fishing tenure, and on most days dont mind at all the "hassle" that comes with it.

BUT, on those extra windy days, or when that big tank takes the bait, I really wish I had my hands free.

Someday I'll pickup a peddle boat, but until then, I'm happy as pie in my "old school" paddle kayak.

crashcrow · 09-05-2017, 12:02 PM

I started with an Xfactor and did ok unless there was a current. I fish 3 times more on a Hobie because my hands are always free. I would never get rid of the pedals now that I have them.

Mike

alanw · 09-05-2017, 12:27 PM

Paddling was fun and I'm glad I learned on paddle boats, but the wind made it really tough to make headway sometimes. The wind really isn't much of an issue with pedals.

The only con of having a pedal drive is having to still carry around a paddle in case the pedal drive fails.

GTboosted · 09-05-2017, 01:32 PM

It's worth it if you already know that you like kayak fishing.

I constantly see kayaks for sale where the owner only used it a few times. If you buy used you will not lose much if you decide you don't like the sport. Pedals won't automatically help you catch more fish.

It also depends in what type of fishing you do. If you stick to harbors it might not be worth it. When you want to cover distance in the open ocean it's hard to beat leg power and the mirage drive with upper body and a paddle.

Gr8fuldude · 09-05-2017, 02:17 PM

[QUOTE=GTboosted;285550]It's worth it if you already know that you like kayak fishing.

I constantly see kayaks for sale where the owner only used it a few times. If you buy used you will not lose much if you decide you don't like the sport.

This is good advice. First decide whether you really, REALLY like the sport. If you are in, then you find a way to beg, borrow, or steal (ok, maybe not steal) the money to get a pedal yak.

Now you have another decision to make, do you get the heavier, more expensive pro angler fishing machine, or a smaller, lighter pedal yak (outback or revo). I got the outback, which I absolutely love, but I wonder if I'd have been happier battling the weight but enjoying the overall superiority of the PA.

I do wish I hadn't wasted money buying a paddle yak first, and instead had just went hobie right out of the gate. Oh well, live and learn, and you can learn from my mistake.

King Saba · 09-05-2017, 02:33 PM

And if you do decide to go with a hobie remember that it's a pedal powered kayak not a peddled one. Some guy would be getting a deal on your kayak if that's the case

fishfoo · 09-05-2017, 03:19 PM

hobie really needs to build a boat that you can stow your rods easy and not so fat

jbl_91762 · 09-05-2017, 08:17 PM

great points on harbor vs open water as Harbor can get away with paddle. On other points with wind, I was caught in wind and it took me over 2 hours to fight back to the harbor with my paddle yak and Im in very good shape! But I was amazed when I saw a PA14 just cruise on by me in the same wind and caught up with him at launch. He wasn't even tired and was worried about me paddling back. That's when I knew I'd make the switch as I don't fish harbors as much as I fish open water.

TJones · 09-05-2017, 09:10 PM

I had about 6 hobbies and I started out in the sport with a hobie. I currently have a 2016 outback. I also bought a pair of ocean kayaks last oct just after release of new models, one being a 2017 trident 15. Since owning a paddle kayak I have not used my hobie. It's great having hands free, but the trade offs suck. The ability to stow rods in hull, and the ability to get through tuff surf with paddle kayak are enormous advantages. Hobie really needs to come up with some aggressive changes. PA is a great platform on the water but not practical for anywhere else except LJ beach launching ( harbors, marinas, lakes excluded ). The outback is a solid platform on water but slow compared to a fast kayak. Weight capcity of revo is kinda shady. Nothing spectacular about it in surf either . Speed is not bad if you carry minimal gear and don't have any fish on board.

09-04-2017, 08:21 PM	#1
Fishing619 Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 58	Is it worth it ? For the people that has upgrade from a paddle Kayak to a peddle kayak is it worth the money What is the difference at the end of the day.

09-04-2017, 09:11 PM	#4
Raskal311 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Santa Ana/Westminster Posts: 1,256	I've fund paddle fishing to be a huge waist of time. Tried it for over a year and hated it; made the switch and never looked back. The difference is you get much more fishing time and less time $@&&$" around with the paddle fighting and adjusting for the current. __________________ Kevin Yellow PA12

09-04-2017, 10:58 PM	#7
King Saba Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: SGV Posts: 848	For reference, I've done 13+ miles in a trip before when I was still in my Revo 13. Wasn't really that tired the next day. Before that, I used to do 4-6mile trips in my wide Malibu Stealth 12 and I was aching and super fatigued the next day. Pedal kayaks- faster overall, hands free application, and easy to maintain course. Paddle kayaks- Can be faster if you buy narrow carbon fiber crafts like a stealth profisha, BUT is generally a hassle when trying to hold position. Overall I love my Hobie kayaks. They're tough, helped me become a better angler, and gives me more time while on the water to focus on fishing rather than maintaining position. But, I do miss paddling for its minimalist application. I take much more caution with my Hobies since there are more moving parts that can break when handled carelessly. __________________ Baitfish catcher extraordinaire

09-05-2017, 08:54 AM	#10
jorluivil Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 6,856	Here are some pros and cons between pedal and paddle kayak Pedal kayak pros: everything pedal kayak cons: none Just to give you a general idea about some of the advantages with pedal drive kayaks. Yesterday I was fighting a large fish, while fighting the fish I was able to gain line on the fish by: 1. pedaling 2. use my rudder controls to turn in whatever direction the fish was running 3. use my VHF radio __________________ www.facebook.com/Teamsewer Last edited by jorluivil; 09-05-2017 at 09:40 AM.

09-05-2017, 09:34 AM	#11
FISH11 Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Pine Valley when not fishing La Jolla Posts: 2,643	I have and like both. My Hobie Revo is great at being able to have hands free and maintaining forward movement against a strong current and wind. Terrible about constantly getting loose kelp caught on the fins or rudder. The rudder pisses me off the most when fly lining a mac at least a couple time a day the fishing line will get caught on the rudder and is a pain to get it off and it has very little usable storage space inside the kayak. My Malibu X Factor is much more stable in choppy water goes out the higher surf better and is more controllable when coming in through the surf. I have had to use both against the strong current and wind. If you paddle often then your arms are in shape, if you don't go out at least once a week then the arms will have a hard time doing it for 4-6 hours non-stop, that I think would be the same for a lot of guys and their legs. THERE IS NO KAYAK, that is all pros and no cons. It is still hard to justify a pedal kayak often costing twice as much, maybe 25%. __________________ MARK ......... 2016 MALIBU X FACTOR, 2020 SOLO SKIFF (Fishing Kayak on Steroids )

09-04-2017, 08:33 PM	#2
jbl_91762 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 347	best move I've made going to peddle. I enjoyed the workout paddling for a year but only bought a paddle cause I was not sure I'd like kayak fishing AND I didn't want to pay $2k for a paddle. Saved the dough and bought 2016 Hobie Outback and couldn't be happier. To fish and tie knots, eat, drink while moving are incredible! Go save the bucks and join the club!

09-04-2017, 08:50 PM	#3
Orca Winfrey Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: The I. E. Posts: 353	I like paddling too, but I'd say yes for fishing. Like jbl said, you will have your hands free to eat and fish on the move. Also a pedal yak lets you hold position over your spot in current and wind. Pedal yaks also have a huge advantage when going into the wind. I learned this at POLA in 20mph plus winds. I was losing more ground (water?) than I was gaining because the wind was blowing me backwards between every stroke. My buddy ended up towing me in with his Revo 13. One day I'll give in to the dark side. Meanwhile, I still like paddling and I'm too cheap to get a Hobie.

09-04-2017, 09:25 PM	#5
Gr8fuldude Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tehachapi, CA Posts: 166	Made the switch and absolutely no regrets. For all the reasons stated above, hands free for fishing, fighting the wind is much easier, and one more reason is that I have increased range in the hobie. Down at makobobs place, I can comfortably and confidently fish the islands, which are five miles from shore. With the paddle, I wouldn't feel so confident going that far from shore. I can also fish all day as I don't get as tired peddling all day compared to paddling. I say if you can afford it then it really is a no-brainer. I liked paddle-fishing, but I absolutely love peddle-fishing.

09-04-2017, 11:33 PM	#8
Phu Nguyen Junior Join Date: Sep 2017 Posts: 1	Can you still fish around San Diego bait barge? Some guy on a sail boat told me yesterday that I can't fish there anymore

09-05-2017, 09:50 AM	#12
goldenglory18 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Seattle Area Posts: 861	I've been a paddler my whole yak fishing tenure, and on most days dont mind at all the "hassle" that comes with it. BUT, on those extra windy days, or when that big tank takes the bait, I really wish I had my hands free. Someday I'll pickup a peddle boat, but until then, I'm happy as pie in my "old school" paddle kayak.

09-05-2017, 12:02 PM	#13
crashcrow Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Vista, CA Posts: 122	I started with an Xfactor and did ok unless there was a current. I fish 3 times more on a Hobie because my hands are always free. I would never get rid of the pedals now that I have them. Mike

09-05-2017, 12:27 PM	#14
alanw Made in U.S.A. Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dana Point Posts: 1,625	Paddling was fun and I'm glad I learned on paddle boats, but the wind made it really tough to make headway sometimes. The wind really isn't much of an issue with pedals. The only con of having a pedal drive is having to still carry around a paddle in case the pedal drive fails. __________________ Hobie PA 14 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Jackson Kraken ¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu X-Factor ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Malibu Stealth-12 ¸.·´¯`·.´¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸><(((º> Its not a spelling B its a fishing B ~yakjoe Last edited by alanw; 09-05-2017 at 02:45 PM.

09-05-2017, 01:32 PM	#15
GTboosted Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Lake Balboa, The Valley Posts: 425	It's worth it if you already know that you like kayak fishing. I constantly see kayaks for sale where the owner only used it a few times. If you buy used you will not lose much if you decide you don't like the sport. Pedals won't automatically help you catch more fish. It also depends in what type of fishing you do. If you stick to harbors it might not be worth it. When you want to cover distance in the open ocean it's hard to beat leg power and the mirage drive with upper body and a paddle. __________________ -Beto

09-05-2017, 02:17 PM	#16
Gr8fuldude Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Tehachapi, CA Posts: 166	[QUOTE=GTboosted;285550]It's worth it if you already know that you like kayak fishing. I constantly see kayaks for sale where the owner only used it a few times. If you buy used you will not lose much if you decide you don't like the sport. This is good advice. First decide whether you really, REALLY like the sport. If you are in, then you find a way to beg, borrow, or steal (ok, maybe not steal) the money to get a pedal yak. Now you have another decision to make, do you get the heavier, more expensive pro angler fishing machine, or a smaller, lighter pedal yak (outback or revo). I got the outback, which I absolutely love, but I wonder if I'd have been happier battling the weight but enjoying the overall superiority of the PA. I do wish I hadn't wasted money buying a paddle yak first, and instead had just went hobie right out of the gate. Oh well, live and learn, and you can learn from my mistake.

09-05-2017, 02:33 PM	#17
King Saba Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: SGV Posts: 848	And if you do decide to go with a hobie remember that it's a pedal powered kayak not a peddled one. Some guy would be getting a deal on your kayak if that's the case __________________ Baitfish catcher extraordinaire

09-05-2017, 03:19 PM	#18
fishfoo Junior Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 19	hobie really needs to build a boat that you can stow your rods easy and not so fat

09-05-2017, 08:17 PM	#19
jbl_91762 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Posts: 347	great points on harbor vs open water as Harbor can get away with paddle. On other points with wind, I was caught in wind and it took me over 2 hours to fight back to the harbor with my paddle yak and Im in very good shape! But I was amazed when I saw a PA14 just cruise on by me in the same wind and caught up with him at launch. He wasn't even tired and was worried about me paddling back. That's when I knew I'd make the switch as I don't fish harbors as much as I fish open water.

09-05-2017, 09:10 PM	#20
TJones Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,526	Good thread I had about 6 hobbies and I started out in the sport with a hobie. I currently have a 2016 outback. I also bought a pair of ocean kayaks last oct just after release of new models, one being a 2017 trident 15. Since owning a paddle kayak I have not used my hobie. It's great having hands free, but the trade offs suck. The ability to stow rods in hull, and the ability to get through tuff surf with paddle kayak are enormous advantages. Hobie really needs to come up with some aggressive changes. PA is a great platform on the water but not practical for anywhere else except LJ beach launching ( harbors, marinas, lakes excluded ). The outback is a solid platform on water but slow compared to a fast kayak. Weight capcity of revo is kinda shady. Nothing spectacular about it in surf either . Speed is not bad if you carry minimal gear and don't have any fish on board.